Jesus V God

[morgs]

Neither, not one of the exists/existed.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

He says with no proof otherwise! ^

And then it goes like this: You can't prove to me he exists!
And then it goes like this: Yeah, well you can't prove to me he doesn't!

Each should just STFU and let people believe what they want to believe. The exception of course, being the behavior that goes with that belief.

 

[morgs]

Well there's proof of dinosaurs but according to the bible/christians they never existed.

 

[theotherguy]

He says with no proof otherwise! ^

And then it goes like this: You can't prove to me he exists!
And then it goes like this: Yeah, well you can't prove to me he doesn't!

Each should just STFU and let people believe what they want to believe. The exception of course, being the behavior that goes with that belief.

You can't prove a negative, therefore the burden of proof lies on the person making the positive assertion. "You can't prove entity A exists" is a valid argument, because in order for a rational person to accept the existence of something, there must be evidence for it.

"You can't prove that entity A does not exist" is not a very effective argument, because you could say the same thing for a wide variety of other nonsensical garbage, like the grim reaper, or fairies, or invisible cosmic pink unicorns, or flying spaghetti monsters...etc. You could never prove that anything does not exist, but it's not reasonable to assume all of these things exist merely because we cannot prove that they do not.

 

[Polaris]

Well there's proof of dinosaurs but according to the bible/christians they never existed.

Wrong! Isaiah 27:1

 

[delusional]

Wrong! Isaiah 27:1

The Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs. Ever play Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald?

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

It says the earth BECAME nothing, not created as nothng. or at least in the greek edition, which I tend to trust more do to longer time period of contact with the Jewish people.

Spoiler

EITHER ALIEN OR TEH MILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF YEARS BEFORE HUMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!

 

[Eejit]

Well there's proof of dinosaurs but according to the bible/some nutty extremeist christians they never existed.

Fixed.
I have many Christian friends who aren't drooling idiots thanks very much, try not to tar with the one huge brush please.

 

[theotherguy]

Wrong! Isaiah 27:1

Yay for extremely sketchy post-hoc bullshit explanations. So it talks about "dragons" and "behemoths". Many cultures invented magical beasts to populate their myths. Does this mean that the writers of the Bible knew about dinosaurs? Absolutely not! It simply means that these people came up with mythical beasts, which when examined with the hindsight of modern times can be forced into the role of "dinosaur", when in all actuality they were simply myths like the Hydra or the Cyclops.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Well there's proof of dinosaurs but according to the bible/christians they never existed.

The fact that I'm a Christian and I believe dinosaurs existed basically disproves your statement. And the Bible never even mentions dinosaurs, doesn't say whether or not they existed, stop putting words where they don't belong.

 

[morgs]

The bible says god made earth, trees etc and put people on it, no mention of dinosaurs. The bible must be wrong.

 

[theotherguy]

The bible says god made earth, trees etc and put people on it, no mention of dinosaurs. The bible must be wrong.

Bingo.

But there's a hell of a lot more illogical bullshit in the bible that doesn't match up with evidence than just the omission of dinosaurs.

For instance, it says that the world is flat, has four corners, rests on pillars, is the center of the universe, and has the sun and stars orbiting it. It also says that insects have four legs, that the Earth is no more than 6,000 years old, was created in 6 days by some vaguely described man, that the world was totally flooded (it wasn't), that a vast kingdom existed in the middle east centered around Jerusalem ruled by a king named David (this, in fact, never happened, Jerusalem was a tiny sheep-herder's village up until the first millennium BC), that Judea conquered the Assyrians (The Assyrians actually demolished Judea and conquered it), that the Israelites were in Egyptian captivity (this too, never happened), that some dude named "Moses" caused his god to lay down 7 plagues on Egypt (which there is mysteriously no evidence of, either forensic or historical)...etc.etc....

 

[PortalStormzzzz]

As I stated before, the Greek translation (more reliable) is written that the Earth became nothing, not was created as nothing. hmmmm...

Spoiler

TEH BIG ASS METEORITE TAT ESPLOEDE TEH EARTH MADE IT NOTHINGNESS!

 

[K e r b e r o s]

You can't prove a negative, therefore the burden of proof lies on the person making the positive assertion.

It works both ways. Especially when the accusation comes from a scientist.

 

[Eejit]

The bible says god made earth, trees etc and put people on it, no mention of dinosaurs. The bible must be wrong.

The bible contains parables.
Some 'tards choose to take them literally.

 

[Polaris]

The Behemoth and Leviathan were not dinosaurs. Ever play Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald?

Yay for extremely sketchy post-hoc bullshit explanations. So it talks about "dragons" and "behemoths". Many cultures invented magical beasts to populate their myths. Does this mean that the writers of the Bible knew about dinosaurs? Absolutely not! It simply means that these people came up with mythical beasts, which when examined with the hindsight of modern times can be forced into the role of "dinosaur", when in all actuality they were simply myths like the Hydra or the Cyclops.

Well, I was joking...

 

[Mozinio]

lol who cares

 

[MiccyNarc]

The bible says god made earth, trees etc and put people on it, no mention of dinosaurs. The bible must be wrong.

Oh shut the hell up. It makes no mention of butterflies, omg there's butterflies! the bible must be wrong!

Worst. Proof. EVER.

And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

And Dinosaurs couldn't have fallen under ANY of those categories?
/facepalm

Unless you're being sarcastic of course, in which case disregard the above.

Regardless, genesis is an allegory anyway, not to be taken literally unless you're a fundamentalist prick.