Just got this letter sent to Bush; Blue states to secede

[No Limit]

Dear President Bush,

Congratulations on your victory over all us non-evangelicals.
Actually, we're a bit ticked off here in California, so we're leaving.
California will now be its own country. And we're taking all the Blue States with us. In case you are not aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, and all of the Northeast.

We spoke to God, and he agrees that this split will be beneficial
to almost everybody, and especially to us in the new country of
California. In fact, God is so excited about it, he's going to shift the whole
country at 4:30 pm EST this Friday. Therefore, please let everyone
know they need to be back in their states by then. So you get Texas and
all the former slave states. We get Howard Dean, stem cell research and
the best beaches. We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay. We get the
Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole Miss. We get 85% of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get all the technological innovation in Alabama. We get about two-thirds of the tax revenue, and you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian Coalition's,
we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms to support, and we know how much you like that. Did I mention we produce about 70% of the nation's veggies? But heck, the only greens the Bible-thumpers eat are the pickles on their BigMacs. Oh yeah, another thing, don't plan on serving California wine at your state dinners. From now on it's imported French wine for you. (Ouch, bet that hurts!)

Just so we're clear, the country of California will be pro-choice and anti-war. Speaking of war, we're going to want all Blue States' citizens back from Iraq. If you need people to fight, just ask your evangelicals. They have tons of kids they're willing to send to their deaths for absolutely no purpose. And they don't care if you don't show pictures of their kids' caskets coming home.

Anyway, we wish you all the best in the next four years and we
hope, really hope, you find those missing weapons of mass destruction.
Seriously. Soon. With the Blue States in hand, the Democrats have firm
control of 80% of the country's fresh water, over 90% of our pineapple and lettuce, 92% of all fresh fruit production, 93% of the artichoke production, 95% of America's export quality wines, 90% of all cheese production, 90% of the high tech industry, most of the US low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, equoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools, plus Stanford,
Berkeley, CalTech and MIT.

We can live simply but well. The Red States, on the other hand, now
have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care cost spike), 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of all tornadoes, 90% of all hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, 100% of all elevangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. A high price to pay for controlling the presidency. Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually eaten by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% believe that evolution is just a theory, 53% that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 and -
most hard to grasp - 61% believe that Bush is a person of moral conviction.

Republicans really do bring down this country, we need to kick them out. Lets give them their own country. Then say they are harboring terrorists and have WMDs and invade. Whos with me?

 

[CptStern]

lol funny:

"we hope, really hope, you find those missing weapons of mass destruction."

"The Red States, on the other hand, now
have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans (and their projected health care cost spike), 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of all tornadoes, 90% of all hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, 100% of all elevangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia."


please stop

"Additionally, 38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually eaten by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% believe that evolution is just a theory, 53% that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11 and - most hard to grasp - 61% believe that Bush is a person of moral conviction."



great find :thumbs:

 

[Apos]

It definately tells you something that the Republicans and their states and areas, who claim to be against handouts and welfare, are the ones that recieve far more in tax dollars than they pay out. It tells you a lot about their sincerity to principle.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Wow...that's actually not a bad idea. I wouldn't mind becoming a new country.

 

[Icarusintel]

indeed Deus Ex, though I think we should get rid of the democrats, maybe send em to cuba or canada
of course i'd like to see the blue states try to secede, it'd be more of a slaughter than the civil war, and i think we all know who'd win :E

 

[CptStern]

indeed Deus Ex, though I think we should get rid of the democrats, maybe send em to cuba or canada
of course i'd like to see the blue states try to secede, it'd be more of a slaughter than the civil war, and i think we all know who'd win :E

definately not the south ..the rest of the world has been itching to nuke that part of the world

 

[No Limit]

indeed Deus Ex, though I think we should get rid of the democrats, maybe send em to cuba or canada
of course i'd like to see the blue states try to secede, it'd be more of a slaughter than the civil war, and i think we all know who'd win :E

Well with us owning 75% of the current economy you might have trouble sustaining that 500 billion military budget of yours to show us how well you can kill people. I'm glad you support the 2 countries idea though :thumbs:

 

[T.H.C.138]

I am down with the cause my Blue brethren!!

 

[Icarusintel]

definately not the south ..the rest of the world has been itching to nuke that part of the world

i think you forget that good ol' boys are invincible :imu:

 

[CptStern]

meh all you have to do is say: "hey isnt that your cousin"?

jk :E

 

[gh0st]

haha. nice. washington would come too.

 

[The Mullinator]

Wow...that's actually not a bad idea. I wouldn't mind becoming a new country.

hmmm... If enough people start to get that belief then maybe John Titor will be right in his err... Predictions.

 

[A True Canadian]

hmmm... If enough people start to get that belief then maybe John Titor will be right in his err... Predictions.

If it's true, then remind me to thank him in the next 40 years.



Great letter. :thumbs:

 

[MjM]

Pitty noone in Washington will ever read it.

 

[seinfeldrules]

Man, with this great stuff you guys are sure to make great strides in 2006, and 2008!

 

[No Limit]

Man, with this great stuff you guys are sure to make great strides in 2006, and 2008!

At least we still have a sense of humor.

Here is what you guys got; continually sinking poll numbers for Bush (down in 40s) and even lower poll numbers for your congress (31% last I checked).

Yes, we will make great strides in 06 and 08. :thumbs:

 

[seinfeldrules]

Yes, we will make great strides in 06 and 08.

Not unless you learn to accept others. Howard Dean recently showed that the Dems are still acting like the cocky bastards they were in 2004. Thats not the way to win back the country. Many from the left claim that Conservatives are the ones unwilling to change, but in many cases that is true on both sides. Right now Conservatives arent the ones that need to change, its the Dems that do. Lets face it, you, stern and the others arent the voice of this country. In fact, if you were politicans you would probably be viewed as major extremists. Sometimes I dont think you guys realize that.

 

[No Limit]

Not unless you learn to accept others. Howard Dean recently showed that the Dems are still acting like the cocky bastards they were in 2004. Thats not the way to win back the country. Many from the left claim that Conservatives are the ones unwilling to change, but in many cases that is true on both sides. Right now Conservatives arent the ones that need to change, its the Dems that do.

I love how you conivinently skipped over my point on the current polls. For A republican to win in 06 and 08 it would mean that Americans know republicans can't run a country but will vote for them any way; highly unlikely.

And Dean will help us win in 06 and 08. Which remarks of his do you consider "cocky"?

Thanks for the political advice but save it for your own party.

 

[sniperelite7]

Not unless you learn to accept others. Howard Dean recently showed that the Dems are still acting like the cocky bastards they were in 2004. Thats not the way to win back the country. Many from the left claim that Conservatives are the ones unwilling to change, but in many cases that is true on both sides. Right now Conservatives arent the ones that need to change, its the Dems that do.

Amen


If the corrupted democrats want too win back the country the best thing they can do is keep there big fat fly traps shut. Because when ever they get there hands on a microphone they spew garbage and shit out like no tommorrow and people have been beginning to realise that so they question the democratic partys leadership, values, and priorites.

 

[CptStern]

Amen


If the corrupted democrats want too win back the country the best thing they can do is keep there big fat fly traps shut. Because when ever they get there hands on a microphone they spew garbage and shit out like no tommorrow and people have been beginning to realise that so they question the democratic partys leadership, values, and priorites.

:upstare: so says the guy named "sniperelite" ...ya that'll win you a lot of respect

 

[seinfeldrules]

I love how you conivinently skipped over my point on the current polls.

Polls? You mean like the polls that had John Kerry winning by a minor landslide? Sorry, but polls dont mean shit.

And Dean will help us win in 06 and 08. Which remarks of his do you consider "cocky"?

The most recent?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/08/dean.gop.ap/

Dean told a forum of journalists and minority leaders Monday that Republicans are "not very friendly to different kinds of people, they are a pretty monolithic party ... it's pretty much a white, Christian party."

....

Challenged on that during the NBC interview, Dean said "unfortunately, by and large it is. And they have the agenda of the conservative Christians."

...

Asked about it on the "Fox & Friends" show, GOP Party Chairman Ken Mehlman joked that "a lot of folks who attended my Bar Mitzvah would be surprised" he heads a Christian party.

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The former Vermont governor also recently raised eyebrows when he told a group of progressives that Republicans "never made an honest living in their lives,"

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Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said Tuesday that Dean is doing a good job, but is not the party's spokesman.

Last weekend, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, and 2004 vice presidential candidate John Edwards criticized Dean for his recent remarks, saying he doesn't speak for them.

Richardson is right. I wouldnt want a guy like Dean being the focal point of my party either.

Thanks for the political advice but save it for your own party.

My party doesnt need it if you havent noticed.

 

[SFLUFAN]

Actually I happen to believe that a benign dictatorship is the best system of government. Something like Singapore would be my model of the ideal society. Democracy is just too damned soft.

 

[No Limit]

Polls? You mean like the polls that had John Kerry winning by a minor landslide? Sorry, but polls dont mean shit.

Minor as in +/- 3 percantage points. 46% and 31% are not within 3 percentage points.

Dean told a forum of journalists and minority leaders Monday that Republicans are "not very friendly to different kinds of people, they are a pretty monolithic party ... it's pretty much a white, Christian party."

I know the black republican members in the house and congress were pissed at that statement. Oh wait, there are no black republican members in the house or senate.

Challenged on that during the NBC interview, Dean said "unfortunately, by and large it is. And they have the agenda of the conservative Christians."

Do you dispute that?

The former Vermont governor also recently raised eyebrows when he told a group of progressives that Republicans "never made an honest living in their lives,"

Many haven't; they inherit what they get. Though I admit he went a little overboard in that statement.

Richardson is right. I wouldnt want a guy like Dean being the focal point of my party either.

I am from New MExico so I know a bit about Richardson. He is pretty much saying anything he can as he will be running for president in 08.

My party doesnt need it if you havent noticed.

Wait about a year, they will need it then.

 

[No Limit]

Amen


If the corrupted democrats want too win back the country the best thing they can do is keep there big fat fly traps shut. Because when ever they get there hands on a microphone they spew garbage and shit out like no tommorrow and people have been beginning to realise that so they question the democratic partys leadership, values, and priorites.

Yeah those damn corrupt Democrats giving no bid contracts to halliburton in Iraq and those damn democrats such as Tom Delay accepting presents from foreign lobbyists. Oh wait, those were all Republicans *shrugs*. Maybe you can give me some examples?

And we spew shit and garbage? Still better than just flat out lies that your party loves so much http://mediamatters.org .

 

[No Limit]

Actually I happen to believe that a benign dictatorship is the best system of government. Something like Singapore would be my model of the ideal society. Democracy is just too damned soft.

You must be a Bush supporter then

 

[SFLUFAN]

Both of the parties are full of crap as far as I'm concerned: the Republican Party for being a tool of the overbearing, self-righteous, religious right and the Democratic Party for being a tool of the overbearing, self-righteous liberal left. Each party has its own crappy war to its credit - the Democrats have Vietnam and the Republicans have Iraq. You're both equal on that score! Good Job!

 

[SFLUFAN]

You must be a Bush supporter then

I voted for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. Try to figure out what I am.

And to suggest that a Bush supporter would even consider what I'm proposing is a load of hogwash. No one in either party would have a clue how to create the wonderful society that I'm proposing.

I've just about had it with democracy, rights, etc. It's time for something else and I think the Singapore model is just what the United States needs.

 

[No Limit]

Both of the parties are full of crap as far as I'm concerned: the Republican Party for being a tool of the overbearing, self-righteous, religious right and the Democratic Party for being a bunch of overbearing, self-righteous liberal left. Each party has its own crappy war to its credit - the Democrats have Vietnam and the Republicans have Iraq. You're both equal on that score! Good Job!

We're both equal? Actually I wasn't around at the time of Vietnam nor most of the current Democrats/Democratic leaders. I won't even go into how much influance Republicans had in that war; save it for another topic.

 

[SFLUFAN]

Do the names Kennedy and Johnson ring a bell? Hmmm...they were both Democrats if I recall.

 

[No Limit]

I voted for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. Try to figure out what I am.

And to suggest that a Bush supporter would even consider what I'm proposing is a load of hogwash. No one in either party would have a clue how to create the wonderful society that I'm proposing.

I've just about had it with democracy, rights, etc. It's time for something else and I think the Singapore model is just what the United States needs.

I think you are wrong but you have your opinion, lets not get into it here. And the Bush supporter thing was a joke, relax . Glad you voted for Kerry in 04; seems someone smacked some sense in to you.

 

[SFLUFAN]

Oh please - I voted for Kerry because I figured he couldn't be much worse than Bush. But I made up for it by voting for Republicans in the House, Senate, and state contests.

Kerry was an utterly complete moron as far as I was concerned. If I had to do it over again, I would have voted for the Libertarian candidate.

In case your'e wondering, I am a registered Republican and intend to stay that way until the Singapore Party comes along :thumbs:

 

[No Limit]

Do the names Kennedy and Johnson ring a bell? Hmmm...they were both Democrats if I recall.

Does Nixon ring a bell, does Eisenhower (which started the policy on vietnam) ring a bell? But again, lets not get in to this here; this topic is about something completely different.

 

[SFLUFAN]

Sure they do ring bells. Alright fine - Vietnam was a bi-partisan disaster. Happy now?

 

[No Limit]

Oh please - I voted for Kerry because I figured he couldn't be much worse than Bush. But I made up for it by voting for Republicans in the House, Senate, and state contests.

Kerry was an utterly complete moron as far as I was concerned. If I had to do it over again, I would have voted for the Libertarian candidate.

In case your'e wondering, I am a registered Republican and intend to stay that way until the Singapore Party comes along :thumbs:

Then please, do defend your republican friends in this poltical board. I really can't remember you defending them once, why don't you join us?

I don't care if you think Kerry was an idiot; what's important that even you, a republican, couldn't vote for Bush. That's all that matters and to be honest, eventhough I think you are wrong for being a republican, I can atleast respect the fact you can see when someone is destroying your party and the country. And please, do stick around this board a bit more; I think this is the first time I saw you here. Republicans need all the help they can get :E.

:cheers:

 

[No Limit]

Sure they do ring bells. Alright fine - Vietnam was a bi-partisan disaster. Happy now?

Yes, I'm happy we can get some truth out. Blaming it on Democrats is wrong and so is blaming it on Republicans; both were deeply wrong.

 

[SFLUFAN]

Then please, do defend your republican friends in this poltical board. I really can't remember you defending them once, why don't you join us?

By us do you mean the Democratic Party? Because if so, it's because I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE your party's sickening pandering to miniorities, homosexuals, the welfare class, etc. etc. as much as I despise the Republican Party's pandering to the religious right.

My views are far more in line with the Republican Party on economic issues than the Democratic Party which is why I remain a Republican. The social policies of the Democratic Party are a major turn-off for me.

 

[No Limit]

Then please, do defend your republican friends in this poltical board. I really can't remember you defending them once, why don't you join us?

By us do you mean the Democratic Party? Because if so, it's because I ABSOLUTELY DESPISE your party's sickening pandering to miniorities, homosexuals, the welfare class, etc. etc. as much as I despise the Republican Party's pandering to the religious right.

My views are far more in line with the Republican Party on economic issues than the Democratic Party which is why I remain a Republican. The social policies of the Democratic Party are a major turn-off for me.

Okay, I would be happy to debate you and show you how wrong you are . So if you can have a mature discussion (unlike most Republicans here) please stick around or post in some of the existing threads; I'd love to hear your opinion. I see many things that are completely wrong with what you just said but lets just leave it at that.

 

[SFLUFAN]

What exactly was wrong with what I just said? Do you deny that the Democratic Party openly seeks the support of those groups in the same manner that the Republican Party seeks the support of the religious right? Or that the Democratic Party has incentivized the political climate in such a manner to make voting for the Democratic Party more appealing for those groups just as the Republican Party does for the religious right?

 

[T.H.C.138]

more and more people are disgusted with both parties nowadays,either for being to soft on certain issues,or for being to hardcore on other issues..too often both sides support someone or something in a really ****ed up way..I think to many "special interest" or "minorities" get much more than they deserve and spit on it because it isn't enough..WTF!?

in my area I am a "minority"(white,heterosexual male),asians and mexicans outnumber everyone else in my area..being white is a liabilty here and elsewhere..is it fair that I am being ****ed with by the government as well as these other people for something I had no choice in(being born white and not being gay or female)?

is it fair that I have a harder time getting into this school or getting this job because I am not a "minority"? why isn't it based on how capable the person is of performing the task? this kind of thing I blame on the "bleeding-hearts"..so many things wrong with both sides its not funny anymore

both sides are filled with idiots and/or "dinosaurs",old men stuck in their ways, holding too many ancient grudges to get any worthwhile work done

I'm gonna win the lottery and buy my own island..**** society entirely..

BTW sorry about the ranting and such..politics just piss me off

 

[sniperelite7]

:upstare: so says the guy named "sniperelite" ...ya that'll win you a lot of respect

I fail too see your point.

Just because I have elite in my nickname means that I hope to be respected?

Its just my nickname I made it up because snipers are trained to be elite marksmen, I never gave a thought that Elite would get me respect I just though it was cool,so shut up.