Just no (Mass Effect anime being made)

ill give it a chance, if it sucks ass then i wont look forward to mass effect 3, im gunna rent it anyway, bioware now wants to make a mass effect mmorpg.
 
Vegeta897 said:
Who the **** cares about animation anyway. Most if not all western cartoons are more exaggerated anyway, meaning the characters are constantly moving and in often unrealistic manners. You don't see as much of that in anime, (yes, I know one of the things anime is known for are exaggerated gestures, but that is not all anime and it's not constant like a typical western comical cartoon) so a lack of animation work isn't really a lack at all.

This thread is so stupid. Not that I expected anything better in an anime thread on hl2.net
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Vegeta, we had this argument once already, and I won it as usual. When will you just give it up and admit that you like shitty animation? Theres no shame in it so long as you own up to it.
 
Krynn72 said:
Not all anime can be categorized by the anime style? How can it be called anime then?
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Anime is just a Japanese word/expression for animation. It's come to embody a certain style over time, but that doesn't mean every work of animation made in Japan is bound to that description.

Emporius said:
How much of this can be attributed to cultural differences? I feel that has always been what has disturbed most people about anime.
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A large part of it is this. Even in things I've enjoyed there's usually some strange elements I can't really identify with because of the culture gap. Japanese humour in particular often eludes me...
 
Bad^Hat said:
that doesn't mean every work of animation made in Japan is bound to that description.
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Have I said anything to suggest otherwise? I've talked only about Anime which, as you pointed out, is no longer an all encompassing term for Japanese animation but a certain style.
 
I'm going to go ahead and take you on your subtitle and trolldogface on this one krynndoggy.
 
Krynn72 said:
Have I said anything to suggest otherwise? I've talked only about Anime which, as you pointed out, is no longer an all encompassing term for Japanese animation but a certain style.
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Sure. I still think it's a bit broad to be referred to as a genre just because much of it shares common elements. If an anime is a horror, would you refer to that as the sub-genre?
 
Bad^Hat said:
Sure. I still think it's a bit broad to be referred to as a genre just because much of it shares common elements. If an anime is a horror, would you refer to that as the sub-genre?
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I suppose. Just like I would if Pixar made a horror movie in their usual "pixar style".
 
Me contemplates the idea of a horror movie by pixar, with all the characters having ridiculous smirks on their faces... shudder.
 
Acepilotf14 said:
also just watched an episode of bugs bunny, it's been so long. I can't see how it's much better. Cartoon animation in general is half assed.
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look at how fluid bugs bunny and the other characters are animated. compare that to any cartoon made for tv. there's a world of difference. same goes for disney; they're a hell of a lot better animated than made for tv cartoons:

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there's far more keyframes in the disney animation than the other one because disney could afford the time and expense needed to get that look whereas the other one's made for tv which has a tighter budget and production schedule
 
And look how much it doesn't matter at all because both gifs get the point across what the character is doing.

Thank you Stern for demonstrating my point.
 
A horse drawn carriage and a automobile accomplish the same goal, but one that doesnt mean they're equally preferable to all people.

@Badhat: Of course I see a difference between Pixar and Japan. Need I explain again the difference between anime as a style, and anime as a outdated, disused name for all Japanese cartoons?
 
Krynn72 said:
A horse drawn carriage and a automobile accomplish the same goal, but one that doesnt mean they're equally preferable to all people.
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Even for a dog this is a really shitty metaphor. Obviously smooth animation is preferable. Who would say it isn't? But is it necessary? No, certainly not.

Would you like me to criticize all your models for not having a higher polygon count? 'Bark but vegeta it's not necessary bark' OHHHH REALLY?
 
Vegeta897 said:
Even for a dog this is a really shitty metaphor. Obviously smooth animation is preferable. Who would say it isn't? But is it necessary? No, certainly not.

Would you like me to criticize all your models for not having a higher polygon count? 'Bark but vegeta it's not necessary bark' OHHHH REALLY?
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Who was saying its necessary? The argument has always been that fluid animation is preferable.

Also, my models have all the polygons. ALL OF THEM. So you couldn't criticize me for that even if you wanted.
 
Okay, I was under the impression that you were saying anime sucks because (among other things) its animation isn't fluid enough. So are you conceding that it's good enough for what it is or what? It seems like a really shitty reason to hate the genre as you call it. Do you hate arma because it could have better graphics and that it has bugs and unrefined game mechanics?

And I know you said you tried watching several anime and the important things like story and stuff didn't impress you, but all I can say is that you certainly haven't tried watching enough to make that kind of judgement for all anime.
 
Krynn72 said:
@Badhat: Of course I see a difference between Pixar and Japan. Need I explain again the difference between anime as a style, and anime as a outdated, disused name for all Japanese cartoons?
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The difference is scope. You can call it a genre as much as you like, the only point I'm trying to make is that you're over-generalizing just a tad.
 
jesus h christ people

wikipedia said:
In Japan, the term anime does not specify an animation's nation of origin or style; instead, it serves as a blanket term to refer to all forms of animation from around the world.[18][19] English-language dictionaries define anime as "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation" or as "a style of animation developed in Japan".
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Get out of here with your 'evidence,' I'm enjoying this dogtroll.
 
Vegeta897 said:
Okay, I was under the impression that you were saying anime sucks because (among other things) its animation isn't fluid enough. So are you conceding that it's good enough for what it is or what? It seems like a really shitty reason to hate the genre as you call it. Do you hate arma because it could have better graphics and that it has bugs and unrefined game mechanics?

And I know you said you tried watching several anime and the important things like story and stuff didn't impress you, but all I can say is that you certainly haven't tried watching enough to make that kind of judgement for all anime.
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The animation isn't what I like, but its hardly the sole factor in me not liking the 'genre as I call it'. I like the show Archer, and it has much, much worse animation than any anime I've ever seen. If it had better animation, it would improve my opinion of it, but clearly fluidity of animation isn't a make or break deal.

I've watched the best examples that a variety of people could come up with. If Ghost in the Shell, or Studio Ghibli's movies, or any of the other 'highly recommended' movies and such are some of the best it has to offer, then I think I have watched enough to form an opinion on all of anime. That doesn't mean I wont acknowledge exceptions to my opinion, and indeed I already have in this thread. But if I dislike the best the genre has to offer, then I think its certainly a fair assumption that I won't like much of its not-so-good stuff.

Bad^Hat said:
The difference is scope. You can call it a genre as much as you like, the only point I'm trying to make is that you're over-generalizing just a tad.
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In every anime I have seen, there have been many more commonalities than the artistic style. I've seen horror anime, wild-west anime, sci-fi anime, animes I can't even begin to categorize due to how weird they are, all of them have had commonalities in their characters, themes, plots, etc that have irritated me. I don't claim to be a connoisseur of anime, but like I said above, I've seen enough to know that I probably won't like the next several animes that I watch. If I've made a generalization in establishing my opinion of the 'genre as I call it', its because generally all the anime I've seen have had these had these issues. Again, my opinion of anime as a whole doesn't disallow exceptions to it, but, in my experience, it generally applies to the majority of them, and it is for that reason that my distaste for it is legitimate.

If I need to break this down any further, I fear I'm going to have to explain what the word opinion means.
 
Who the hell considers Pixar/Dreamworks a genre? It's really hard for me to distinguish how much of this is pointless semantics, but that is just not right. You can even give me a definition that shows it is and I won't care. Nobody uses the word genre like that.
 
I wouldn't say any of those gifs were better than the other, they're just 'different'. One of the great things about those cartoons is the simplicity.
 
Sheepo said:
It's really hard for me to distinguish how much of this is pointless semantics
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Almost all of it. KA/Vegeta/Bad Hat all tried to discredit me by starting a semantics argument, and I totally kicked everybody's asses at it. Whether people use the word like that is irrelevant considering the fact that its totally correct the way I used it.

So y'all can just lick my hairy opinion.
 
I use bananas to comb my hair. Whether other people use bananas that way is irrelevant considering the fact that it's totally correct the way I use them.

I don't know why I should expect a dog to understand language though.
 
Thats an even worse metaphor than the one I used earlier.
 
That metaphor was actually a metaphor for how bad your earlier metaphor was, hence it being so bad. But seriously, let's use words in a sense that no one uses those words in, because that's the point of words, right?
 
Nah, I say we just go around attacking people's credibility when they use a word correctly, just because people generally don't think to use the word in the way they did. F*ck literacy when it doesn't conform to a norm.
 
Am I suppose to feel like that sounds dumb? I mean, attacking their credibility sounds a bit harsh, and I don't think I'm doing that, but yeah, I think what you're describing is bad and we should be opposed to it.
 
You're opposed to using words correctly just because people aren't used to it? Because thats what I was describing.

Anyways this argument isn't nearly as fun as the previous ones, so I'm done in this thread.
 
What are you talking about? This is my favourite genre of argument.
 
Eh, I'm not a fan of it. I mean, I've given it several chances before but I didnt like any of it. I had these kinds of arguments with friends, on the internets, on review sites, and I didnt like any of it. I despise the talking points, and the etiquette has always been mediocre at best, with the points being made almost always being unrelatable and uninspiring. So hate the attitude or not, I think the genre sucks.
 
And I think it rocks! And Mass Effect on it...we'll see how that goes.
/attempted rerailing
 
Look, let's just all agree that some people obviously dislike anime, others don't!

And top it all of with a group hug.
 
I'm just surprised we got this far without someone saying "baka gaijin."

You stupid foreigners.
 
I'm with Krynn. At least somewhat. I don't really hate anime, but I find it gay.

I do hate the wired pics Vegeta posts in the image dump though. Like Ooh so pretty girls with stupid animal tails and shit. The **** is that?
 
Rizzo said:
I do hate the wired pics Vegeta posts in the image dump though. Like Ooh so pretty girls with stupid animal tails and shit. The **** is that?
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Are you referring to the pokemon anthropomorphs I posted? That was the first time in a while that I had posted anything like that. I thought some people might like it because there are a lot of pokemon fans on here. Other people post way more anime art than I do in the dump, especially if you're talking about girls with tails and animal ears.
 
Krynn72 said:
You're opposed to using words correctly just because people aren't used to it?
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I'm not saying to use words incorrectly, but if there's a word that's both correct and is generally understood to mean what you're trying to say, why not use that one? The idea of communication is to get ideas from one brain to the next, not start three pages of semantic arguments because you like to use a word that's technically appropriate while being understood to mean something else entirely.

So yes.
 
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