Karma and fate o.o

[Raziaar]

According to the multiple universe/fates theory/story, once you've made the choice as to whether or not to eat the sandwich, then the universe will split into two realities; one where you've eaten the sandwich, and one where you haven't. So is it by your actions that you are following fate, or that you are choosing which fate to follow?

I believe in 'what happens, happens. You choose your fate, your fate doesn't choose you.

 

[15357]

I believe in a very strange version of karma and fate:

Karma - If something thats a little bad happens to me, then I'm due something very good. Heh.

Fate - I'm due good things to happen to me, cos I just deserve them.

lol, mobile fate ftw.

 

[Absinthe]

Alright... If it'll make you feel better... yes, there is a destined course at the end of ones life. I've already admitted this. But to me its not destiny, its merely the all powerful knowledge of what will happen by a being we could never begin to comprehend.

You need to offer a rationale that supports this distinction. Because the way I'm reading it is that, yes, it is destiny/fate. An omniscient being knows everything. Every decision, every course of action, every thought, every feeling that has and will exist in your lifetime, before and after your existence. An inevitable outcome infers a single, unavoidable path. No matter how much you think you may be in control, your course was decided long before you were even born.

If God came down and said you would eat the sandwich, and you did not do so, then nothing is proven. Despite what he may have said, he knew you would disobey him. If he did not know this, then it's clear he's not omniscient.

Don't chide others about their range of comprehension when your arguments simply aren't making sense.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Fate = terminator ftw.

Karma however...well, yes, but not in a traditional sense. More like what Short Recoil said:

Generally, in human and animal society what you give is what you get (emphasis on generally), if you act like a jerk people will act like a jerk back...it's animal nature. Other things can factor in like your own guilt, you could be mean all your life making tons of cash but feel horribly guilty.
I'm not sure what the figures would be as to how much "accuracy" of the soceital karma you recieve would be but put it this way, there are plenty of people who only do "good" and get shit thrown back in their face, likewise there are mean ****ers who have a wonderful time.

 

[Sainku]

No to both. Not to offend, but I find them both kind of silly.

 

[TheSomeone]

11:15, restate my assumptions:
1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge.

Therefore: Karma and fate are patterns everywhere in nature.

 

[15357]

11:15, restate my assumptions:
1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge.

Therefore: Karma and fate are patterns everywhere in nature.

You shall only gain knowledge through me. :E


<3 pi

 

[bam23]

Let's put it this way, fate and karma don't control everything. Chuck Norris does.

 

[short recoil]

According to the multiple universe/fates theory/story, once you've made the choice as to whether or not to eat the sandwich, then the universe will split into two realities; one where you've eaten the sandwich, and one where you haven't. So is it by your actions that you are following fate, or that you are choosing which fate to follow?

Dosn't split into 2 though, splits into infinite, one where you let the piece of tomato fall out while eating, one where you did a bush and nearlly chocked, one where the sandwhich suddenly dissapeared by the 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance due to heisenberg uncertainty principle....and i could go on all day.

and i wouldn't say split was the right word, moving from one infinitley small time fram to another.

If everything is infiinity is balances out perfectly, in infinity probability becomes meaningless, the universe WOULD exist how we have experienced, or at least i with my consciousness.
It appears there is only a set path for each thing, as it follows it own unique set of rules (however infinitely close to the infinte others)
So You experience this, infinity experiences the other infinity and so on.

And there we go, i'm waffling again, bad idea to take taurine and caffiene work out formula and not train, will i sleep now?

EDIT: To make myself clear, when i stated about the "choice" split, that would of course mean the previous infinitley small time frame would have had the slight difference too (i.e for the tomato one the tomato would have a smaller amount of margarine so it didn't stay stuck to the bread, which was of course was caused by mum spreading less due to being distracted a second later by the post ariving 4 seconds earlier by the postman putting his foot 1/8 inch less on the throttle of his van for 1/2 second (meaning he got there slightly later) caused by a single nerve pain in his foot caused by a single lint in his shoe caused by a slight wear blah blah blah blah blah.
Man i;m going mental.

 

[Jintor]

Dosn't split into 2 though, splits into infinite, one where you let the piece of tomato fall out while eating, one where you did a bush and nearlly chocked, one where the sandwhich suddenly dissapeared by the 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 chance due to heisenberg uncertainty principle....and i could go on all day.

and i wouldn't say split was the right word, moving from one infinitley small time fram to another.

If everything is infiinity is balances out perfectly, in infinity probability becomes meaningless, the universe WOULD exist how we have experienced, or at least i with my consciousness.
It appears there is only a set path for each thing, as it follows it own unique set of rules (however infinitely close to the infinte others)
So You experience this, infinity experiences the other infinity and so on.

And there we go, i'm waffling again, bad idea to take taurine and caffiene work out formula and not train, will i sleep now?

EDIT: To make myself clear, when i stated about the "choice" split, that would of course mean the previous infinitley small time frame would have had the slight difference too (i.e for the tomato one the tomato would have a smaller amount of margarine so it didn't stay stuck to the bread, which was of course was caused by mum spreading less due to being distracted a second later by the post ariving 4 seconds earlier by the postman putting his foot 1/8 inch less on the throttle of his van for 1/2 second (meaning he got there slightly later) caused by a single nerve pain in his foot caused by a single lint in his shoe caused by a slight wear blah blah blah blah blah.
Man i;m going mental.

Actually, out of all those possiblities, they're still in two groups: One where you ate the sandwich, and one where you didn't.