Liberal or Conservative?

[Lil' Timmy]

http://www.quiz2d.com/

"roughly halfway between the views of Libertarian and Democratic politicians"
.. ok. seems like a kinda bland test..

 

[CyberSh33p]

not that any of this even matters. the civil war starts next year.
titorforever

 

[Asus]

I'm right on the circle border for Centrist.
I'm conservative but leaning up toward libertarian.
Square 6,3 from the top

 

[Pogrom]

I'm halfway between libertarian and liberal.

Not that it matters what that test says...

 

[Sprafa]

Although I voted liberal, that kind of bias exits majorly in the North American society, due to the aglomeration of so much support in only 2 parties( Democrat & Republican).
And you know what? Semantically, they mean supporters of nearly equal systems....

Anyways, I like more the system in Continental europe, right & left, which respectively stand for Fascism & Communism in both extremes. Of course, most parties are in the middle of that. There are Greens, Fascists, Communists, Socialists here, not just Republicans & Democrats..... and each one of these has it's own liberalis, radicalis & conservatives.


If I am to be judged in that way, I am a Democratic Socialism supporter, that would be considered by many as liberal.

 

[CptStern]

left of center

 

[MrMethane]

Apparently I'm a Social Liberal

The suggested readings I got made it pretty clear where the author(s) of the test stand politically (Libertarian)

 

[crabcakes66]

I lean a little left. But im more of a centrist than anything.

 

[Foxtrot]

I took it again and I had time to read everything this time around and this is what I got:
You recognize the inefficiency of having the government run the economy. Great!

You also seem to think that the government can do a good improving people's personal habits -- a bit of moral socialism.

 

[OCybrManO]

I'm within the centrist circle (about 2/3 of the distance from the origin to the circle) and directly on the line between liberal and libertarian.

I don't want too much economic freedom (I don't mind them making/enforcing regulations as long as those regulations are unbiased) because people are greedy bastards but I don't want the government to own the means of production. I think the government should stay out of personal matters (until they become a threat to people other than the consenting adults involved)... including not being able to force someone to kill another human being on the whim of the current administration at the time.

 

[Foxtrot]

I selected yes for the forced 2 years draft thing because it said it can be non-military service. I think that is a great idea, everyone should do 2 years of somthing that would help out our country.

 

[Fender357]

I think I tend twords some liberal things......like.....Why the hell should I care what you do in your life as long as it dosn't negetivly affect me.

But other things like money......I'm more on the conservitive side with that.

And I still think that both sides are full of complete idiots.

 

[Foxtrot]

I think I tend twords some liberal things......like.....Why the hell should I care what you do in your life as long as it dosn't negetivly affect me.

I think the reason why we should care is because that will lead to the loss of morals which will lead to somthing like what Rome was before it collapsed, giant orgies and animal sex and weird stuff like that. That and people doing tons of drugs(or even alcohol) can and does affect other people.

 

[Fender357]

I think the reason why we should care is because that will lead to the loss of morals which will lead to somthing like what Rome was before it collapsed, giant orgies and animal sex and weird stuff like that. That and people doing tons of drugs(or even alcohol) can and does affect other people.

Yeah.....see....thats where I get screwed..... Because theres some things I know we need that for, and some we dont.

There's that whole Grey Area kind of thing that just makes it hard to really tell what needs to have the most attention put on it. And what really dosn't need to be bothered with.
And I would say examples, but that would probably set off some kind of flame war of opinions and whatnot.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

There's that whole Grey Area kind of thing that just makes it hard to really tell what needs to have the most attention put on it. And what really dosn't need to be bothered with.
And I would say examples, but that would probably set off some kind of flame war of opinions and whatnot.

seems pretty blatantly obvious to me: if it's between consenting adults, who gives a shit? all that "decay of society" talk is complete horseshit. mostly, religious conservatives just like to hide behind that because they know "because it says so in the bible" won't fly.

 

[Fender357]

seems pretty blatantly obvious to me: if it's between consenting adults, who gives a shit? all that "decay of society" talk is complete horseshit. mostly, religious conservatives just like to hide behind that because they know "because it says so in the bible" won't fly.

I wasn't really talking about sex. I was talking about everything debaitable in general.


And they get away with the " it says so in the bible" thing a whole lot more than you'd know.

 

[Foxtrot]

seems pretty blatantly obvious to me: if it's between consenting adults, who gives a shit? all that "decay of society" talk is complete horseshit. mostly, religious conservatives just like to hide behind that because they know "because it says so in the bible" won't fly.

I am not religious at all(I don't belive in God or attend church) but I think it is the decay of society. And there are statistics proving it, look at the increase in violence and how fat people are getting, also cussing and other lewd acts are much more acceptable now than they were 50 years ago, where will we be in 100 years?

 

[Lil' Timmy]

And there are statistics proving it, look at the increase in violence and how fat people are getting, also cussing and other lewd acts are much more acceptable now than they were 50 years ago, where will we be in 100 years?

i'd sure like to see some statistics showing a correlation between actions between consenting adults and violence, obesity (!!?), cussing (um..), and "lewd acts" (public lewd acts or private?). just out of curiosity, how is obesity related to the 'decline of western civilisation' or whatever you seem to think is going to happen in 100 years anyway? being obese is morally wrong now?

 

[Colonel Sanders]

I was placed in the middle between Liberaterian and Conservative. I have always considered myself to be a liberaterian (because I believe in doing things by the constitution) but am raised in a conservative household, so this was no surprise to me. I found it funny how they recomended running for congress though.

 

[Foxtrot]

i'd sure like to see some statistics showing a correlation between actions between consenting adults and violence, obesity (!!?), cussing (um..), and "lewd acts" (public lewd acts or private?). just out of curiosity, how is obesity related to the 'decline of western civilisation' or whatever you seem to think is going to happen in 100 years anyway? being obese is morally wrong now?

I didn't say there were statistics showing a direct link(although if I look hard enough I am sure I can find one) but there are stats showing all the stuff is happening, and I think being obese is wrong, unless you have some medical problem.

 

[OCybrManO]

Obesity comes with advancements in technology that allow society as a whole to become lazy. Technology lets people get the same amount of "work" done with less effort. Technology slowly turns the economy into primarily service jobs instead of manual labor. Technology lets people like me do "work" while sitting on my ass for hours on end (though, I compensate by doing aerobic exercise, weight training, yoga, and eating well because I don't find fat attractive).

high food intake / low work output = fat bastards

Where is this increase in violence you speak of? Crime rates have been falling (on average) since 1990.They reached a peak in 1980 and have been flucuating below that ever since. The last time the crime index (per 100,000 people) was as low as it was in 2000 (if I knew more up-to-date statistics I would use them, but I haven't checked in a while) was in 1972.

Also, "cuss" words are subjective. To me, there is no such thing (that doesn't mean I run around calling people mother****ers or cock-sucking sons of bitches... because that would not be a nice thing to do since it offends some people). Banning any specific words because you don't like the emotions that you associate with them is like trying to ban anger itself. The world isn't sugar coated. Shit doesn't smell like flowers. I wish people would stop trying to make it seem like that. There are good things and there are bad things. You have to accept both ends of the spectrum. If you shelter people all of their lives they will be the kind of people that sue because they ordered hot coffee from McDonalds and they ****ing spilled it on their own lap. Once you cure all diseases, achieve world peace, end hunger, and solve the rest of the world's problems you can come back and try to soften everyone up. Until then, life is harsh. Some people deal with it while others try to avoid dealing with it as long as possible. Which one are you?

One last thing: There is nothing wrong with the naked human body or sex. Just for clarification, are you using "lewd" as meaning obscene/indecent or "preoccupied with sex"/lustful? If it is the former, again, it all comes down to your opinion of what is "obscene." If it is the latter, what is wrong with consenting adults enjoying sex?

 

[AzzMan]

The people who think of sex as lewd or disgusting are usually the ones who are just mad cause they cant get any themselves.

And I'm neither Republican or Democrat, some things I'm liberal in belief and some things I'm conservative, although I am of the opinion that all of the current politicians are dumbasses that have no idea what the hell they're doing.

 

[Maskirovka]

i've been trying to think of a good way to comment on this thread, but i haven't really been able to think of anything specific...

that's probably because this is a thread about liberals vs. conservatives and where you think you lie in that spectrum. it isn't specific, yet we get the same discussions and arguments that you would get if you made a more specific thread. it doesn't really matter what the subject is.

imo, conservatives (especially religious ones) want everyone to think alike and any deviation from 'normal' is met with disgust, hatred, and laws that "protect the children"

true liberals would have laws protecting your right to do whatever you want as long as you're not specifically infringing on someone else's rights.

that's why i "lean" towards the liberal side...

i mean...living in america means you're in the country that was created to protect your inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....so take an issue like gay marriage for instance.

sure there are plenty of reasons why gay marriage could be bad...loopholes in the laws that let business partners marry to do weird financial deals...men marrying other men to keep them in the country...you might believe it's just wrong...

but how is denying marriage to those would use it legitimately american? it just doesn't jive...you're denying those people the right to pursue happiness. of course you can't justify everything because you're in pursuit of happiness...i mean...it might make a serial killer happy to mutilate victims, and that isn't right...but i think you see what my argument is...

anyway....in general, it seems to be the conservative's goal to label everything that isn't normal and dispose of it in some way. i think that's narrow-minded and wrong. it's like a big ideological army crushing the "abnormal" in its path....

i dunno...i think it comes down to (and i've said this before) whether or not you think people are basically good or basically evil. if you believe people are basically good but victims of circumstance, you're generally a liberal...but if you believe people are generally evil and need to be controlled, you're a conservative.

and i agree with azzman:

I'm neither Republican or Democrat, some things I'm liberal in belief and some things I'm conservative, although I am of the opinion that all of the current politicians are dumbasses that have no idea what the hell they're doing.

although there are probably a few decent politicians...1/1000 maybe

 

[Foxtrot]

Obesity comes with advancements in technology that allow society as a whole to become lazy. Technology lets people get the same amount of "work" done with less effort. Technology slowly turns the economy into primarily service jobs instead of manual labor. Technology lets people like me do "work" while sitting on my ass for hours on end (though, I compensate by doing aerobic exercise, weight training, yoga, and eating well because I don't find fat attractive).

high food intake / low work output = fat bastards

Where is this increase in violence you speak of? Crime rates have been falling (on average) since 1990.They reached a peak in 1980 and have been flucuating below that ever since. The last time the crime index (per 100,000 people) was as low as it was in 2000 (if I knew more up-to-date statistics I would use them, but I haven't checked in a while) was in 1972.

Also, "cuss" words are subjective. To me, there is no such thing (that doesn't mean I run around calling people mother****ers or cock-sucking sons of bitches... because that would not be a nice thing to do since it offends some people). Banning any specific words because you don't like the emotions that you associate with them is like trying to ban anger itself. The world isn't sugar coated. Shit doesn't smell like flowers. I wish people would stop trying to make it seem like that. There are good things and there are bad things. You have to accept both ends of the spectrum. If you shelter people all of their lives they will be the kind of people that sue because they ordered hot coffee from McDonalds and they ****ing spilled it on their own lap. Once you cure all diseases, achieve world peace, end hunger, and solve the rest of the world's problems you can come back and try to soften everyone up. Until then, life is harsh. Some people deal with it while others try to avoid dealing with it as long as possible. Which one are you?

One last thing: There is nothing wrong with the naked human body or sex. Just for clarification, are you using "lewd" as meaning obscene/indecent or "preoccupied with sex"/lustful? If it is the former, again, it all comes down to your opinion of what is "obscene." If it is the latter, what is wrong with consenting adults enjoying sex?

By lewd I meant obscene, and crime has been going down, could that be related to drugs? IDK...just a thought.