Life philosophy

Dan said:
Oh yeah, on a more metaphysical level, I believe that the universe (finite or infinite and including any god which might rule over it or have created it) is fundamentally describable. That is really just a basic step of logic, because everything must be describable. If it is indescribable, then it doesn't exist because it has no effect on me or the universe. Any effect it did have would be discernible, measurable, describable to some extent.

Following from this, the description of the universe in it's simplest form must be arbitrary. Once you have an orthogonal (uncorrelated) fundamental data set describing the universe, there is no reason for a certain constant or fundamental law of physics or atom to exist or not exist or be the way it is. The only point of reference is my consciousness and my identity, both of which are defined by the universe which it inhabits. So judging the existence of reality from a perspective within that reality is like a measuring tape trying to measure itself. It's circular logic and the existence of one predicates the other. The only reason that the laws of nature are what they are is that if they weren't that way, I wouldn't exist to write this sentence. And the only reason I exist is because the laws of nature are they way they are. So you see, one of us is arbitrary, and thus both of us (universe and identity) are arbitrary.

If you really understand that, it makes it easier to let the little stuff in life slide.
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I think I understand and agree.

basically, the only reason the universe exists is because there has to be SOMETHING. There can't just be nothing.


so in short, nothing in our lives matters (unless of course you choose to make it matter by caring about it)
 
When life sucks, get up, grab it by the balls and TWIST!

When life is awesome, Grab it by the balls and TWIST!
 
VirusType2 said:
I think I understand and agree.

basically, the only reason the universe exists is because there has to be SOMETHING. There can't just be nothing.


so in short, nothing in our lives matters (unless of course you choose to make it matter by caring about it)
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I was kind of getting at that identity is arbitrary so we take it as the fundamental truth that you have to pick. Cognito ergo sum. You can kind of think of it this way: I am sure many of you have asked the question "Why am I me? Why is my identity inside my particular brain. Why aren't I John Lennon, or Bill Clinton, or a parakeet? The answer is that if you were them, then you wouldn't be you. So you would be leaving the "you" behind, and really if you leave your identity behind and that means that you wouldn't be moving anything at all. So you see that really, your identity is arbitrary. You are the ghost in the machine.

And then it is your arbitrary identity that brings into existence by necessity, the universe and all of the physical laws which support that identity (or you could consider that the arbitrary universe creates your identity). If you wants to be truly objective beyond the scope of reality, you would have to lose identity. And without identity, you don't have existence. There is no real or not real. There is no possible division into "this" and "not this", no sets of objects or classifications, no boolean logic. No definition of anything.

The interesting question to ponder is whether identity or consciousness can exist without the dimension of time. Can you have an instantaneous moment of consciousness, or do you require the constant flow of time to maintain your identity?
 
If you face a long day's work ahead, eat lots of sandwiches, because Doritos won't make no s**t. :)

Actually, I have a few motto(s), for life's many trials, but basically, ZT's turtle's repsonse was pretty good, followed with, "why do today what you can put off until tomorrow?" Yeah, I'm lazy. :|
 
You know what really ****ing sucks?

"meaning" does not exist...
 
What sucks is that when you die you go back to not being born and I can't remember not being born and it will be like that for the rest of eternity sadface :(
 
Retracting previous cynical statement

There is one person out there, man, woman or child, who needs you, that drives you to do better.

You may not know them, you may never know them, but they will be affected by everything you do for better or worse, so you try to make every single one of your actions the former instead of the latter, for them.
 
elkaebee said:
There is one person out there, man, woman or child, who needs you, that drives you to do better.

You may not know them, you may never know them, but they will be affected by everything you do for better or worse, so you try to make every single one of your actions the former instead of the latter, for them.
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aren't you going to tell us who it is?
 
That, and that your life really is meaningless on a great number of levels (no, not in the emo sense, in the literal sense), so there's really no point in stressing over anything, because when you get down to it, it really doesn't ****ing matter...
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Life only has meaning when we can see it from the clairvoyency of death itself.

I personally believe it really does matter. Without us, how many more wouldn't be here?

I psuedo follow the Chaos theorey, and we are the small changes that catalystically affect the world.
 
Life philosophy? What a load.

Look at you all, trying to sum up your feelings on life in a single sentence or some great principle(s) you try to adhere to. Most of what's in this thread has been pathetic attempts at being humorous or your generic, "Life sucks and then you ______" responses. You want to know the real philosophy of life?

You exist.

That's it.
 
You're so much deeper than everyone else, bra.
 
He's right. Existence precedes essence. We exist, but only because the circumstances allow it, not for any actual purpose or reason beyond pure existence.
 
So what? This thread is about people's philosophy towards their lives, not the philosphy of why life exists.

Completely irrelevant.
 
Dan said:
Don't worry. Be happy

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This

But overall, I think to just to try and be happy, and try to make other peoples lives a bit easier. Also, "love like you'll never be hurt" comes to mind. Quaint maybe, but meh, it's just how I see things.
 
Life is an ecstasy pill, swallow it and shit gets better.


Whatever happens, happens

(ie: Whatever happens in the future, happens; it up to you to decide what to do with it.)
 
Alternatively:

Grab it like a fucking cock and own it.
 
It's sort of how that song goes. I fought the war, but the war won.

What war, and what for?

Also, it is already within our grasp, if we all travel the path we take like you said, that matters most to ourselves first, then those who truly matter.
 
The purpose of life is experience, beyond that i make my own choices
I also try to accept the fact that i don't know shit so i might learn something
If i don't feel good about something, including life itself, i take it as a sign that i've got the wrong idea of it. i see it as my birthright to feel good about everything i do
 
evil^milk said:
It's sort of how that song goes. I fought the war, but the war won.

What war, and what for?

Also, it is already within our grasp, if we all travel the path we take like you said, that matters most to ourselves first, then those who truly matter.
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Don't you mean "I fought the law"?
 
to be honest, i haven't had much exposure to life being 21 so i find it hard to find a philosophy at my age

i have found that people are complete bastards ...etc
 
You want to know the real philosophy of life?

You exist.

That's it.
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You guys ever think like this then decide to go out in public, hopping around like you would in WoW?
 
Eejit said:
So what? This thread is about people's philosophy towards their lives, not the philosphy of why life exists.

Completely irrelevant.
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Completely irrelevant? Anyone's life philosophy is essentially how they go about existing, and the conditions of their existence itself are very important. My life philosophy, how I go about life and treat people and what I believe and most importantly why, is very much founded on my understanding of existence.

So I think it's relevant. I know it is for me at least, and I imagine the same is true of some others here.
 
Doppelgofer said:
to be honest, i haven't had much exposure to life being 21 so i find it hard to find a philosophy at my age

i have found that people are complete bastards ...etc
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I'm 14 and I wrote around 3 entire paragraphs on page 1...
 
Darkside55 said:
Life philosophy? What a load.

Look at you all, trying to sum up your feelings on life in a single sentence or some great principle(s) you try to adhere to. Most of what's in this thread has been pathetic attempts at being humorous or your generic, "Life sucks and then you ______" responses. You want to know the real philosophy of life?

You exist.

That's it.
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Shit-ade! Shit-ade!
 
Darkside55 said:
Life philosophy? What a load.

Look at you all, trying to sum up your feelings on life in a single sentence or some great principle(s) you try to adhere to. Most of what's in this thread has been pathetic attempts at being humorous or your generic, "Life sucks and then you ______" responses. You want to know the real philosophy of life?

You exist.

That's it.
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I think he was trying to be ironic by decrying the very post he was making. Either that or he is really a huge jackass and a hypocrite.
 
Darkside55 said:
Life philosophy? What a load.

Look at you all, trying to sum up your feelings on life in a single sentence or some great principle(s) you try to adhere to. Most of what's in this thread has been pathetic attempts at being humorous or your generic, "Life sucks and then you ______" responses. You want to know the real philosophy of life?

You exist.

That's it.
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Well, shit. Thanks for enlightening me. No, really. I might have gone through life never having realised that I had it all wrong!

I hope to science that was a joke, because it has the highest density of bullsh*t I've ever seen.
 
I don't know why everyone is getting on him. I thought it was funny
 
I can't seem to stick with one philosophy. I change my beliefs on a monthly basis. At one point i was in an almost sick state cause any idea i would come up with to live my life by i'd have to automatically reject sceptically.

Currently I'm in a type of Wittgensteinian Philosophy claiming that all complex or unanswerable philosophical propositions are just a flaw of language. Like imagine language as building blocks

When you say " I would like some tea." The words have meaning because they are useful.
When we start talking about things using language (we can't use anything but a type of language to do anything) and we do not know weather they exist or not we form a sort of structure with no base.. no direct implication.

Basically in order to communicate in the first place we have to hold on some level an almost infinite number of assertions as true. For example with the above request "there is a tea cup" "there is tea" "i'm a person in a tea shop""there is a tea shop" "the person i'm talking to will bring/make me tea" "that person exists" etc...

If we didn't all hold those assertions then our words would be meaningless and therefore we would be unable to communicate.
 
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