Looking to puchase 2006 Coupe

[redpathogen]

Lol- I'm a freaky guy. Yep- Maybey he got found out, or realised how pointless a question like that is on a forum like this.

Oh dude, you're so wrong those no point in even refuting your claims. Firstly who says I'm 15? Secondly not knowing how old I am or what kind of financial situation I could be in how can you call buyin an 18k car unrealistic? I'll get the car and I'll take a pic of me holding a sign that says "F*ck U Shasta" in front of my new car. Just for fun, no ill intent to the comment on the sign just to prove you very abrupt and conceited conclusion wrong.

Just wait. I'll test drive a few more but I'll probably get the Tib. I also don't have a family, but I can see the argument is for the functionality of SUVs and not my personal car wantingnessity. No way I'm gonna be getting an SUV. Mainly because of gas and all the rude/rich soccer mom experiences with them that I've had has left me with a negative stigma towards them.

 

[Qonfused]

If you do get a Tiburon, please do this.

 

[nofx]

If you do get a Tiburon, please do this.

please dont ricer alart!

nice car parrot of doom, did a bird poop on you while you ride in it or something and thats why your name is parrot of doom. i win

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

If you do get a Tiburon, please do this.

Ricer.

 

[redpathogen]

If you do get a Tiburon, please do this.

I like the subtle decals a lot, and grey's probably the color I'd get, yet I'm not into the "underground street" scene enough to be labeled anything other than a poser by putting that much crap on it. The logo on that's one's a Tuscani, which I think is a more prestigious name. Spending a few hundred on some angel eyes is as customized as I'd get.

 

[Parrot of doom]

If you do get a Tiburon, please do this.

lol. Seriously?

 

[xcellerate]

Body kits aggravate me in the same way wings do. They are strictly for looks and less than 1% of them will actually do something advantageous. Putting a body kit on will only increase drag, same with a wing.

Indy and Formula 1 teams spend millions of dollars and hundreds of hours deciding the exact placement and angle to put a wing, while all the kids pull out a measuring tape, "hmm...that looks about center"...and screw it into their trunk.

It's an insult to them, sort of like a 'cold air' intake on a stock motor, it does NOTHING to help you. Infact there are dynos on stock vehicles that prove the big cone k&n filter decreases performance on stock motors. I guarantee, AEM or APC or K&N or any other company can NOT engineer a better intake for a stock motor than the factory engineers could. But what do you see people do to their cars first, "intake and exhaust".

 

[JellyWorld]

Damn Americans and their cheap cars A Toyata Corolla here would set you back $50k.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

It's an insult to them, sort of like a 'cold air' intake on a stock motor, it does NOTHING to help you. Infact there are dynos on stock vehicles that prove the big cone k&n filter decreases performance on stock motors. I guarantee, AEM or APC or K&N or any other company can NOT engineer a better intake for a stock motor than the factory engineers could. But what do you see people do to their cars first, "intake and exhaust".

You've just lost all credibility right there buddy, from now on don't talk like you know about cars, because you are dead wrong.

Statements like these make me laugh at how someone tries to act like they know a bunch of stuff about cars, then they prove they don't.

Oh yeah people have dyno'd 06 Si's with AEM intakes and other brands and they've gained hp and trq with the upgrades.

 

[xcellerate]

Bone stock GTi 2.0L 16v 9a motor. The 'open element' intake is the k&n cone filter kit they sell for the car.

It was a bit broad of a statement, but not every car is limited by the amount of air the engine can suck in. I've seen Dynos of people who 'swiss cheese' their stock airbox and lose HP/TQ also. It's amazing, there's always an exception to everything. Or maybe VW can just engineer better intakes than honda can? It just pisses me off when someone slaps on some 'high flow/cold air' intake then think their car is unstoppable. My buddy got a lightweight flywheel on his car and now everybody swears it's a racecar. I've had a 9lb flywheel on my car for years, and i can't tell any difference in speed.

Plus you always have to deal with more dirt with aftermarket filters which can and have ruined some engines.

http://www.duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm

Basically it says this:
- Filters for a GM Duramax diesel truck engine are tested.
- Efficiency of catching dirt - best: AC Delco @ 99.9%, worst: K&N @ 96.8%
- Dirt holding capacity - best: AC Delco @ 573gms, worst: Amsoil @ 196gm (K&N one from last @ 211gms)
- Dirt passed through filter - best: AC Delco @ 0.4gms, worst: UNI @ 7.9gms (K&N one from last @ 7.0gms)
- Restriction to flow at 350CFM - best: K&N @ 4.54in, worst: AC Delco @ 6.23in

Conclusion:

K&N:
- Filtration: ---
- Air flow: ++

AC Delco (or most other no-brand paper filters):
- Filtration: ++++
- Air flow: -


or check out this dude from the BMW site:
http://www.bolhuijo.com/airflowtest/

Basically the OEM filter was better than the K&N filter, K&N was 2nd place out of 5 competitors. So while i KNOW that aftermarket filters can flow better, on a stock motor IF you get any results, they will be minimal, and are those minimal results worth the amount of dirt and debris let in by it?


So don't start acting like aftermarket filters are the shit, and i'm curious to see what kind of car you drive.

 

[Shasta]

Oh dude, you're so wrong those no point in even refuting your claims. Firstly who says I'm 15? Secondly not knowing how old I am or what kind of financial situation I could be in how can you call buyin an 18k car unrealistic? I'll get the car and I'll take a pic of me holding a sign that says "F*ck U Shasta" in front of my new car. Just for fun, no ill intent to the comment on the sign just to prove you very abrupt and conceited conclusion wrong.

I'm glad that I can affect you that much without leaving my seat.

Please do post a pic when you have purchased your car- with advice from here though I've got my money on it being a new Hot-Wheels or Tonka. These kids know computer games well enough, but not cars. And don't just stand next to some new car, ask if you can sit in it, take a pic, and say it's yours.

 

[Adrien C]

Parrot, how much did that TVR cost you ?

 

[xcellerate]

These kids know computer games well enough, but not cars.

People here have other hobbies aside from half-life.

...what would one have to do to constitute "knowing cars"?

 

[Llama]

If this guy is willing to spend £18,000 then I wouldnt suggest a sports car.
Get a good, solid, family car thats got a decent miles-per-galon ratio
If I had 18k i'd buy a second hand C220 (new version, not the old boxy thing)

 

[Shasta]

People here have other hobbies aside from half-life.

...what would one have to do to constitute "knowing cars"?

If you have to ask, that counts you out. Googleing for stats doesn't count as "knowing cars". But if you must know, I'd say being old enough to drive would be a good start, having a license and a few years driving experience would be better, owning your own car would certainly help. But ultimately, having purchased, owned, maintained and driven many cars, and a wide variety of them over the years would be the sort of experience called upon in this thread, and probably most lacking on this entire forum (no offense HL2net). Any more painfully obvious questions?

 

[Raziaar]

If you have to ask, that counts you out. Googleing for stats doesn't count as "knowing cars". But if you must know, I'd say being old enough to drive would be a good start, having a license and a few years driving experience would be better, owning your own car would certainly help. But ultimately, having purchased, owned, maintained and driven many cars, and a wide variety of them over the years would be the sort of experience called upon in this thread, and probably most lacking on this entire forum (no offense HL2net). Any more painfully obvious questions?

Why don't you back down in the assumption that you're some sort of authority, belittling others and their passions?

 

[Shasta]

Why don't you back down in the assumption that you're some sort of authority, belittling others and their passions?

Sure. When you prove me wrong on this one first.

 

[Raziaar]

Sure. When you prove me wrong on this one first.

How do you know these people? How do you know that they're lying when they say they have some knowledge about cars? Sure, you could think they're lying if they said they were an astronaut or a president or some other rediculous shit, and i'd believe you, but what about this stuff? This stuff isn't so wildly outrageous that it needs to be disproved as unrealistic and impossible, and the people as phonies.

I mean come on, how do you know that these people don't spend time working on their parents cars, taking an interest in cars in school, or auto learning shops... or their friends cars and other such shit. Why do you immediately jump to the conclusion that they're bullshitting?

How do YOU know? Are you god?

 

[Shasta]

How do YOU know? Are you god?

Yes. And I have seen who has posted in the "how old are you?" threads, and the ages they admitted to being. Also, if you pay attention while reading some threads, people tend to let it slip, like "well how should I know, I'm just __teen".

And if you are smart enough, you can roughly guess a persons age just by the way they post (grammar, spelling etc), what they post, and by topics they start. An adult is not too likely to start a thread on "How do you kiss?", or "hlp me with my homework!", nor is an adult likely to post "zomg - yr a fag!", or "so, at school today...". And before you say it- they won't, even if they are a 40 year-old that is taking some sort of classes for something.

ETC, ETC.

I thought you would have figured that out by now.

 

[Raziaar]

Yes. And I have seen who has posted in the "how old are you?" threads, and the ages they admitted to being. Also, if you pay attention while reading some threads, people tend to let it slip, like "well how should I know, I'm just __teen".

And if you are smart enough, you can roughly guess a persons age just by the way they post (grammar, spelling etc), what they post, and by topics they start. An adult is not too likely to start a thread on "How do you kiss?", or "hlp me with my homework!", nor is an adult likely to post "zomg - yr a fag!", or "so, at school today...". And before you say it- they won't, even if they are a 40 year-old that is taking some sort of classes for something.

ETC, ETC.

I thought you would have figured that out by now.

Young people have passion and knowledge too, it isn't a commodity that exists solely in the hands of adults and elders.

 

[Shasta]

Young people have passion and knowledge too, it isn't a commodity that exists solely in the hands of adults and elders.

Yes, but not experience. As they say, there's no substitute for it.

 

[xcellerate]

If you have to ask, that counts you out. Googleing for stats doesn't count as "knowing cars". But if you must know, I'd say being old enough to drive would be a good start, having a license and a few years driving experience would be better, owning your own car would certainly help. But ultimately, having purchased, owned, maintained and driven many cars, and a wide variety of them over the years would be the sort of experience called upon in this thread, and probably most lacking on this entire forum (no offense HL2net). Any more painfully obvious questions?

I've owned two cars, i bought my mother's maxima from her when i turned the age. And as soon as i found a VW GTi available in florida, i bought that with money from my savings account that i earned. When i bought it the previous owner had ruined it to the point of barely running, and when it did, it ran like shit. I've replaced the mix of vogtland 3" lowering springs in the front on stock struts and kyb-gr2 struts wrapped in stock springs in the rear, with H&R race springs and bilstein struts, sitting under vr6 strut bearings and bushings. I replaced the cracking brake and gas lines with stainless steel, and replaced every vacuum hose with silicon hose, a new fuel filter/pump, i replaced his huge/loud dtm style twin tipped muffler with 2.25" inner diameter pipe from the headers back, removed the cat, into a borla muffler with no tip, i replaced all the bushings in the control arms and sway bars to polyurethane, and installed a second 28mm sway bar in the rear, i've replaced the distributor and water pump. This past summer i removed the head and ported and polished it myself in my basement, installed a 270* cam with 8k rpm HD valve springs, new cam followers, and tapered valve guides. I reinstalled my timing belt and all the accessory belts, a new alternator, and timed my engine. I removed my air conditioning (all hoses and parts associated with), and replaced my thermostat, installed and rewired a new radiator fan, and rewired my battery with 4 gauge wire. I wired my headlights into a relay harness which is independent of the oem wiring harness, using thicker and shorter wires, i also wired it with newer style H4 bulbs instead of the factory 9004 style. I've replaced all the locks on the car, and I've replaced my front, transmission, and rear motor mounts, and i've rebuilt my shifter, replacing all the bushings, springs, and plastic snaps, and installed a short throw and weighted rod. I cut my shifter stalk, rewelded it, and rethreaded the top since the previous owner had stripped the threads somehow. I replaced my worn out clutch with an 8v clutch and a 16v pressure plate and had my original 19lb flywheel machined and balanced down to 9lbs. And i replaced my wheels and tires, but the wheel hub was too small so i had to hone out the center hub 1.1mm, using a cylinder hone and my drill press to make them fit. And not only did i buy and install all these myself, but i also bought all the tools required to do so, and i pay for regular maintenance and gas.

Now I don't want this to turn into a spitting contest, so you're right, i guess by your definition i don’t know about cars, but i'd say i do know about volkswagens. Yet still, maybe i don't even know about volkswagens. I haven't owned 15 of them like some of the people i know have. I haven't ever done a vr6, or g60, or ABF swap like some people i know do in a weekend, i haven't had to rebuild a transmission, or install a LSD, and i haven't ever installed stand-alone (however, thats the plan for this summer). But i have worked on plenty of them, and i've virtually rebuilt mine, and it hasn't broken or given me problems since, so i'd say i must know something, and maybe i'm cocky but i'd say i even know more than your average owner.

So see, even 'gamers' can have fun outside of the computer.

 

[carrera]

....guahhh?? :dork:

 

[Parrot of doom]

Parrot, how much did that TVR cost you ?

About £11 000 to buy (was a 1994 model, 4.0 V8), sold it about 9 months later for £9 000, spent around £3 000 maintaining it - that doesn't include petrol or insurance.

Worth every penny tbh, and I'll be getting another one in a few years to run as a 2nd car

 

[Shasta]

I've owned two cars,

That's all you needed to say. Two whole cars. You sir, are clearly an expert in the field of automotive transport. Your years of experience should be called upon by the President himself to determine the future of tranportation for your country.

You cannot argue that asking gaming kids on a forum what kind of car to buy is funny to watch, but is ultimately pointless.

Unless he himself is a kid, and can't even drive, let alone afford a 2006 car. Then it's like when horny guys go to "lesbian" chat rooms pretending to be a chick, and talk dirty to all the other guys pretending to be chicks. Except he is pretending to be buying an expensive car, and everyone else is pretending to know something about buying, well, cars in general, let alone expensive ones. It just seems that no-ones first car, as he said it was, is a ever brand new anything, unless mummy and daddy are rich, in which case- they would be able to give you any advice needed on new cars.

 

[Raziaar]

You should cease being an ass.

 

[Shasta]

I'm actually trying to be helpful, if you stop and think about it.

If the truth is that this guy is somehow for real, then I am saving him the trouble (and some wasted money) of buying a first car based on kids values and opinions, most of whom have not ever bought (or even driven) a car before, let alone had years of driving experience and many cars.

If, on the other hand, (and this is where my money is) he is just dreaming and is in no financial situation to buy a brand new car, nor possibly even old enough to hold a full license. He wanted to start a thread and this seemed like a good topic, and we go back to the "lesbian chat rooms" situation described in my previous post.

Either way, I am merely pointing out that this topic was never going to help anybody, and if I can make a few people wiser, or a few people grow up, just by pointing out the obvious truth (either way), then the internet can be a better place for all.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

and if I can make a few people wiser, or a few people grow up, just by pointing out the obvious truth (either way), then the internet can be a better place for all.

Please kill yourself.

 

[Shasta]

Lol. Not yet.

 

[Qonfused]

Lol. Not yet.

Damnit.

 

[Zeus]

a 2006? I have trouble affording a 1996!

;(

I have trouble affording a 94...lol

oh going for my road test 2morrow guys..wish me luck..im mad nervous this my first time taking the test...hopefully my last

 

[xcellerate]

shasta you're so quick to shoot down everything I say and destroy what little credibility I have, but what have you offered to this thread aside from ripping apart everything somebody else says?

I gave him what I know on page 1, "don't buy volkswagen unless you don't mind spending $$$", and then provided him with a reliability chart from 2005.

Besides, the two cars i've owned is 2 more cars than many people here own, and it's one more than the rest of them. I doubt many people on here (if any) are on their third or fourth car by now.

So maybe instead of spending your time trying to belittle other people, you should either help out or shut up. Throwing up posts talking about how nobody on here knows shit about shit isn't helping anybody.

 

[Shasta]

Besides, the two cars i've owned is 2 more cars than many people here own, and it's one more than the rest of them. I doubt many people on here (if any) are on their third or fourth car by now.

You just perfectly illustrated (and agreed with) one of my points. No-one here is likely to be of any help to this paricular topic AT ALL. But please, by all means, Google for stats for him.

All I am doing is laughing at this thread, and sharing the joke with those who don't get it.

But don't despair- if I ever decide to (pretend) to invest, say, a million dollars, I'll be sure to ask for advice in here so that everyone else can pretend to be investors and give me advice on what to invest in. (Even though investing your $5 pocket money in lollies each week doesn't really count as "investing" experience).

I realise that people can be anyone they want on the internet, but please make it believable guys. Remember- this is a great HL2 site- probably the best- but you wouldn't go to Disneyland for advice on rocket fuel would you?

BTW- I have had 9 cars, none of them have been absolutly brand new, and I haven't bought a car in about 3 years. So even I don't feel particularly qualified to contribute a suggestion as to which 2006 car he should get (if he's for real that is).

 

[xcellerate]

You act like google is a bad thing. I don't understand, people aren't just born with all the information about every car and part that comes out. Not only that, the internet is here to share information, if i didn't use it when i bought parts for my car i might have well just walked into a parts store spun around in circles a few times with my eyes closed and bought whatever i was looking at when i stopped. If nobody you know has experience with the parts you're interested in 1st hand, how the hell are you suppose to know if they are good? Pick up the phone book and start calling?

And people here can help with buying a car. Some people buy a car because it's cool, think about the H2. It doesn't sell because it's such an economy car, or because it has all that space, or because it's so agile. One of my friends is in LOVE with the H2 and he'll be the first to admit it's a worthless car that’s just 'so damn cool'.

Funny you would have 9 cars...I’m going to assume you're under 20. And you probably got your license when you were 16 or 18, so that's like 2-3 cars a year. Now either, you suck at driving and total them, you buy shitty cars and they break, or you get bored with them and sell them for a new one. Neither one of those three is a good option. There's something to be said about quality over quantity.

You probably wouldn't consider anybody a good source to talk too anyway, obviously you disapprove of asking this board, yet if he went to forums.tiburon.com you'd still call him stupid for taking the advice of kids from an internet forum who have probably only owned 1 or 2 cars and haven't been driving for very long (and they’re biased). And if he asked his parents, then of course he's stupid, parents don't know anything about new cars. If he went to the dealer then he's a dumbass because the dealer is obviously biased, and if he asked my buddy who has a turbo tiburon who has spent thousands and thousands of dollars in modifications only to bitch about how he's disappointed with it's performance and that if he'd bought a better car he would be so much faster, then he's clearly an idiot because my buddies tiburon isn't stock and therefore is not helpful to the original poster.

So how about this, my friend is 22, he currently owns an accord, an early 90's ford f-150, and a 1988 ford mustang. Before that, he owned a 93 passat, a 91 corrado, an 85 golf, an early 90's civic 4 door, 95 chevy lumina, and a 96 blazer. All of them he bought, repaired minimally, cleaned, and then sold them when he got bored. ...now let's see that covers what you say is required of somebody who is 'car knowledgeable’, he's been driving for a few years, has plenty of experience, has bought and repaired (and sold!) multiple vehicles of all makes and models and years, so maybe I’ll call him up and get his opinion on a 2006 Hyundai Tiburon.

I'm not still arguing this because you say a gaming board isn't the place to ask for car stuff, but because you just assume that nobody here knows anything about cars and then set a standard as to what qualifies somebody as being car knowledgeable when you have demonstrated no knowledge yourself. How do you know one of the guys here who does drive, doesn't own an '06 tiburon? Maybe his parents own one. How do you know there isn't a hyundai mechanic on here?

You don't.

There is no way you could know, you're basing your entire reason for being in this thread on the belief that everybody here is 15 and still plays with hot wheels.



Well how about this, there's going to be no convincing you of anything because you're already 100% dead set in your belief that you're right ("Sure. When you prove me wrong on this one first."), this is just a game to you and you're going to keep at it till you win and you get 7 e-penis points. If somebody came in here and said their parents owned an '06 tiburon, then you'd say they’re clueless on rating cars since they have been in so few, and probably have never driven the tiburon and if they have driven it, then they haven't driven enough cars to compare it to. You’re argument is unable to be refuted because there is always something that you could say that would make somebody not credible. So how about this, I am done, nobody is really participating in this thread other than me and a few other people who also think you are being stupid, you've been called all sorts of bad names and even asked to kill yourself, and yet you press on for your internet victory, so here it is! Are you ready?

You win.

Was it everything you hoped for?

p.s. For the original poster (it’s the most updated I could find from a credible source): http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=2373

p.s.s. If you decide to respond to this (it’s almost too long not to), I won’t respond. So feel free to say anything you wish, with no fear of rebuttal from me. I throw in the towel.

 

[Shasta]

Well, it would almost be a shame not to respond to a post with that much time spent on it, but you have unfortunatly missed the point, although I can now see how.

Firstly, Google is a great tool, but it usually is the first place (for anyone with intelligence) to look for answers. You Googleing the same thing and regurgitating it can't be much help.

Secondly, you don't seem to be a good judge of character, or age, and seem to miss the point of what is actually being said. You can't possibly argue that the average age of this place must be in the late teens at best, and that fact alone screams that THIS topic (about a buying 2006 car remember) is a waste of time HERE. I'm not talking about anywhere else but HERE. Again- you wouldn't go to Disneyland for advice on rocket fuel would you? I hope not.

Your 22 year old friend with an '88 mustang is no help at all to this guy's request on opinions on a 2006 car, so I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say with that whole thing. Remember- I'm just talking about THIS thread, not any others. I'm sure he would be helpfull in a "I want to by a piece of crap from about '86 - '90 and have $500 bucks. Any help?" thread. But not this one.

If you must know, I'm 27. I already said I couldn't help with this topic, and explained why no-one else probably could here either. I also said that the topic starter was suspect for being full of crap, but that is just my opinion.

I'm not sure why you thought I might "fear your rebuttal", but perhaps that goes back to the fact you don't seem to be a good judge of character.

I wasn't trying to start an arguement here I guess that's what happens sometimes.

 

[Raziaar]

Your ego unbalances the earth's rotation significantly.

 

[Shasta]

Your ego unbalances the earth's rotation significantly.

Your stupidity balances it out. (Yay, now we ALL have stooped to childish insults!)

Although I did say I couldn't be much help with choosing a 2006 car. Is that some how inflating my own ego? I think not. Anything else?

Want to call me a poopy head? Tell mummy about the big bad bully?

Just chill out. I'm entitled to my opinion the same as you are entitled to yours. Just because mine is backed up with facts doesn't make yours worthless, just think harder next time.

 

[Parrot of doom]

I doubt many people on here (if any) are on their third or fourth car by now.

I am on my 7th car mate.