M4: What effect does the silencer have?

[Acert93]

When you put the silencer on the M4, does it make it less powerful or accurate, more kick?

Also, any good sites that give some good feedback on how to use the guns. I do very well with the M4, but the AK kicks so much and gets so inaccurate after just one or 2 shots, that I do really bad with it.

It is frustrating because I see others on the run getting head shots while I can be crouched and do slow single clicks while aiming on the head and cannot seem to take guys down.

Similarly, I can come from behind someone with a shotgun and shot them from 5ft right in the back and there have been times when 3 shots does not take them down (and frequently 2 does not do the trick).

So links and suggestions would be nice

 

[Pauly]

Silencer is the weirdest thing, it does somehow effect the gun but I am not really sure how. I use silencer at long ranges as it seems more accuracte but I use no silencer when I am in places like a tunnel on dust.

 

[Roper]

It makes it quieter

 

[$kelet0r]

I use silencer at long ranges as it seems more accuracte but I use no silencer when I am in places like a tunnel on dust.

Thats just psychological
the m4 is much more effective unsilenced - more accuracy, more power

It is frustrating because I see others on the run getting head shots while I can be crouched and do slow single clicks while aiming on the head and cannot seem to take guys down.

gotta compensate for the hitboxes - aim more than natural ahead of a moving target - and if your close enough point at the upper chest or head and just spray - no point trying to line up a lovely one bullet kill then

use flashbangs loads and i mean loads - buy them before any other weapon and avoid grenades
shotgun does very little damage if you aim below the upper chest and the back seems to absorb pellets well so aim for the head

 

[Exclamatio]

what does the search button do?

finds answers to these questions!

 

[Acert93]

what does the search button do?

finds answers to these questions!

Hmmm.... you would think in a thread where I already have gotten disagreeable answers (e.g. M4 is better silenced/is not better silenced) that would explain why Search no workie...

But of course you had to come in here, give your wise crack comment, and absolutely add nothing to the thread.

At least you could have posted a link Mr. Search :roll:

 

[FearoftheDomoKun]

Dont forget that the silencer also removes the muzzleflash; rendering you invisible in smoke:

 

[beam]

Dont forget that the silencer also removes the muzzleflash; rendering you invisible in smoke:

Unless you have a custom muzzleflash

M4 is far better unsilenced, and I really believe that the accuracy is the same either way.

 

[fenner]

The silencer doesnt' affect the accuracy at all but it does make you do a tiny bit less damage.

 

[Exclamatio]

Hmmm.... you would think in a thread where I already have gotten disagreeable answers (e.g. M4 is better silenced/is not better silenced) that would explain why Search no workie...

But of course you had to come in here, give your wise crack comment, and absolutely add nothing to the thread.

At least you could have posted a link Mr. Search :roll:

search my name ive already written a lot on this

 

[HunteRKilleR]

It makes the gun's acuracy go down by a bit. At least thats what i have experienced.

 

[xLostx]

The silencer doesnt' affect the accuracy at all but it does make you do a tiny bit less damage.

yes it does lol, look at your cross hairs before you add a silencer onto an USP or M4, you'll notice they enlarge, thus reducing accuracy :O

 

[Muhahahaha]

I tend to use the silencer for long distances, though I don't usually take it off either. It seems to me that it's better for long range, but that it's more powerful with it off. Either way, I mostly try to use it for headshots down long hallways and such. I'm very good at it and it's so fun. There are other advantages as well, even if it is less accurate. I can still headshot with it, so it's much better IMO.

 

[Qonfused]

yes it does lol, look at your cross hairs before you add a silencer onto an USP or M4, you'll notice they enlarge, thus reducing accuracy :O

I've heard that before and that doesn't happen to me.

Try not to run when you equip the silencer... :thumbs:

 

[beam]

^^lol that's exactly what I was thinking

 

[Exclamatio]

I've heard that before and that doesn't happen to me.

Try not to run when you equip the silencer... :thumbs:

do u have custom settings for the size of your crosshair?

 

[Qonfused]

do u have custom settings for the size of your crosshair?

...

No.

 

[MoBoChoBo]

Dude I thought every1 knew this, silencer DOES NOT affect crosshairs whatsoever.

It DOES however prevent all muzzle flash, it DOES lower sound, it DOES reduce recoil, and it DOES lower damage.

It is great because it is an even balance, you can have the silencer equipped to be more stealthy, because there is no flash or sound, and it IS more accurate, but not because the crosshairs change, but because there is less recoil, OR you can leave the silencer off so you are not stealthy and you do more damage per shot.

A perfect balance

 

[HunteRKilleR]

Really? I thought silencer created a bigger cross-hair. Isnt that also the case with a pistol that can have a silencer equipped?

 

[_-_-SELAS-_-_]

I sometimes use the silencer when Im about to sneak up on the enemy from behind, I havent thought about the smoke thing, have to check that out.

And yes the crosshairs does enlarge, thus making it less akkurate over large distances, when you put on the silencer. Its a fact, period.

 

[MarcoPollo]

actually there is less recoil when you silence it, plus it is sillenced so the enemie doesnt have any idea you are coming to rape him...

 

[MoBoChoBo]

actually there is less recoil when you silence it, plus it is sillenced so the enemie doesnt have any idea you are coming to rape him...

Ummmmmmmmmmm........i sorta kinda said that, ur contradicting me by saying the same thing i said...........i would like to meet ur psychiatrist

 

[The Monkey]

I thought it was like this:
With silencer: Less damage, more accuracy
Without silencer: More damage, less accuracy

 

[bam23]

Less damage and no muzzle flash.

So, at the cost of being ninja, you need to get 1-2 extra hits on the other person before killing him.

 

[Qonfused]

Dude, the crosshairs don't increase; your eyes are playing tricks on you.

 

[_-_-SELAS-_-_]

Dude, the crosshairs don't increase; your eyes are playing tricks on you.

Yes. They. Do.

 

[DarkDamo]

i thought the silencer made the shots more controled at short ranges [less recoil/spray] but it was crap at long range?

 

[TopDog]

Use the silencer when either:

Up close and rushing through some tight areas... ie dust2 tunnels.
Standing in 1 spot waiting for somebody to appear from round a corner at fairly close range

Take the silencer off for the majority of the time tho, at long range it destroys the m4, the short bursts go everywhere. Up close u seem to be garunteed a headshot with the silencer on even when you aim at thier stomach... either the silencer sucks or thats just the game being crap... also shoot a guys foot when hes jumping, another garunteed headshot :/

 

[westie]

I use the silencer when im the last one or one of the last ones left and there's more than one enemy, or when there's multiple enemies and i have time to put it on.

 

[veilz]

silencer on:

-less powerful
-silenced (good for camping up top ceiling railings in Train and Compound especially)
-less recoil (good for picking ppl off but still doesnt compare to AK 1-2 shot bursts)

silencer off:

-mainly the opposite of what i just said

Side Notes:

-it's funny to see opponents not knowing/hearing you shooting at them at an advantage spot, some dance and jump around ... but all usually die haha =)

-silencers are a stealth tool... that's it

 

[Ennui]

silencer makes it silent, no muzzle flash, less accuracy and less power

no silencer is more accurate and more powerful.

 

[smsKONG]

I don't know why, but I play far better using the m4 silenced. It's possibly just psychological but for me, the silencer seems to make recoil more controllable. Plus I like to play with reeeaaally high volume to hear people move- so any respite from the deafening din of gunshots, explosions and odd people singing Davids Hasselhoffs Greatest Hits in German over the mic, is extremely welcome :rolling:

 

[dleidlein]

I also find less recoil with the silencer equipped. It does less damage though, so I will use it unsilenced if I'm "worried" about doing enough damage. Seeing as I go only for headshots......I leave it silenced. Plus, it's silenced , so I can be sneakier. If you need that extra, maybe 5-10 dmg, then unequip it.
To summarize (Why is this topic debated?):
Silenced:
1. Less Power
2. More Accuracy
3. Quiet
4. Can't see muzzleflash (If you can see a muzzleflash, that is a hack)

Unsilenced:
1. Regular Power
3. Slight less accurate
4. Louder
4. Muzzleflash can be seen

P.S. A note on "accuracy." I think there is too much debate on accuracy. OMG THE CROSSHAIRS GET LARGER OR SMALLER, it doesn't really matter, every gun is going to be accurate in that FIRST shot, we are talking accuracy after that shot.

 

[veilz]

....
P.S. A note on "accuracy." I think there is too much debate on accuracy. ...FONT]

About cross hairs-- the rate at which it goes back to 'normal' depends on speed of your computer/video card/ram combination...

i have come to this conclusion because once i made a significant upgrade in computers-- the FPS went up and so did my cross hair reset speed for all guns esp. AK.

in actuality-- even in my old comp, as long as new the center point of my shots, the cross hair reticle going back to normal wasnt that big of a deal.

 

[Almost]

First of all, there is no such thing as a "silencer". It's called a "supressor". A silencer is something they use in Hollywood, not on a battlefield.

Second, muzzle velocity would be slightly lower with a supressor attached, so I guess it would mean that damage is slighly lower if modeled correctly ingame. However, the relation between muzzle velocity and damage is a variable close to impossible to calculate with any kind of certainty in a video game. On the other hand, shooting yourself in the head, with or without a supressor attached, would probably give you the same result in real life.

 

[63]

First of all, there is no such thing as a "silencer". It's called a "supressor". A silencer is something they use in Hollywood, not on a battlefield.

contradiction

 

[$kelet0r]

lol pwned

 

[Almost]

Don't tell me you didn't understand what I meant.

Oh, and using big letters makes you look really cool.

 

[RazorbackWarrior]

Hell Yeah it does

 

[short recoil]

A real m4 with a "silencer" makes quite a lot of noise still.
The bullet makes a crack because it breaks the sound barrier (subsonic 5.56 ammo would be silly) also the fact ar15/m16 mechs tend to make quite a lot of noise anyway.