Marijuana may actually be good for the brain

[Raziaar]

Then they're ****ing idiots. Or perhaps they were prone to getting addicted to something in general. Alcohol seems like a likely alternative.

In the end, however, these accounts of personal experience mean nothing in the face of clear objective evidence. Anybody can claim (truthfully or not) about how wonderful or how abysmal smokers they know are.

There's just one thing I find insanely funny(not).

All the pot smokers out there all seem to believe that all pot smokers in general are responsible, productive members of society, and if they're not... well then, no fault of the drug.

Might as well not blame booze for alcoholics either. :E

 

[Absinthe]

Might as well not blame booze for alcoholics either. :E

Uhh... yeah. That's exactly what we do. It is the individual's choice in the end. We don't hold the bottle of jagermeister accountable when some drunk schmuck behind the wheel runs over a kid in the street.

What the hell kind of train of thought are you running on?

 

[Raziaar]

Uhh... yeah. That's exactly what we do. It is the individual's choice in the end. We don't hold the bottle of jagermeister accountable when some drunk schmuck behind the wheel runs over a kid in the street.

What the hell kind of train of thought are you running on?

Of COURSE it is. God... Its not like i'd blame only the alcohol. Of course its the ****ing person, but its the substance abuse that caused the problem. DUH. The ****er takes all the blame, but that doesn't mean the booze didn't cause it.

What kind of train of thought are YOU running on?


I would never blame a substance over a person who abused it, to hold them less accountable. However, i'm not so stupidly naive to think that the drug played no part, that it was just the person's psyche.

 

[Absinthe]

Of COURSE it is. God... Its not like i'd blame only the alcohol. Of course its the ****ing person, but its the substance abuse that caused the problem. DUH. The ****er takes all the blame, but that doesn't mean the booze didn't cause it.

What kind of train of thought are YOU running on?

You are out of your mind. When a person commits an action out of choice, that is their responsibility. You said, in a failed attempt to be clever, "might as well not blame booze for alcoholics either". Well, despite your irony, you're exactly right. While the drug may have impaired their judgment and played a part in the accident, it was the user's decision to take it, and his decision not to heed warnings, his decision to abuse it.

So a drug caused it in a relatively manner. Again, what in the hell is your point? That because a person willingly decided to engage in abusing a drug, the drug should be banned? Is that what you're saying? Because I don't know. You seem content to dig a hole for yourself and dance around making a solid argument. Because if you are saying that marijuana should be banned because some idiots abuse it, then I assert that we should ban spoons if somebody scoops out his spouse's eyeballs. If all you're saying is "well, drugs had something to do with it" and just that, then... well, what a meaningless statement.

No offense, but I highly suggest you take a break and order your thoughts or read up a bit before posting in this kind of topic again.

 

[Raziaar]

You are out of your mind. When a person commits an action out of choice, that is their responsibility. You said, in a failed attempt to be clever, "might as well not blame booze for alcoholics either". Well, despite your irony, you're exactly right. While the drug may have impaired their judgment and played a part in the accident, it was the user's decision to take it, and his decision not to heed warnings, his decision to abuse it.

So a drug caused it in a relatively manner. Again, what in the hell is your point? That because a person willingly decided to engage in abusing a drug, the drug should be banned? Is that what you're saying? Because I don't know. You seem content to dig a hole for yourself and dance around making a solid argument. Because if you are saying that marijuana should be banned because some idiots abuse it, then I assert that we should ban spoons if somebody scoops out his spouse's eyeballs.

If all you're saying is "well, drugs had something to do with it" and just that, then... well, what a meaningless statement.

No shit shirlock, thats what I said above when I edited my post, before you posted yours.

And your spoon argument is idiotic. Someone MUST have been doing marijuana to be stupid enough to use a spoon instead of a knife or fork.

 

[Ikerous]

No shit shirlock, thats what I said above when I edited my post, before you posted yours.

And your spoon argument is idiotic. Someone MUST have been doing marijuana to be stupid enough to use a spoon instead of a knife or fork.

If you use a fork, you'll end up puncturing the eye. Gotta spoon it out to keep it unharmed

::Has a nice collection going::

Then what's your point.

We've established that the individual is responsible for their actions.
We've established that while drugs may play a part in aforementioned actions, they are not to be held accountable.

So... what?

I'm pretty sure he's just trying to hit on you...

(I'd go for it ;-) )

 

[Absinthe]

No shit shirlock, thats what I said above when I edited my post, before you posted yours.

Then what's your point.

We've established that the individual is responsible for their actions.
We've established that while drugs may play a part in aforementioned actions, they are not to be held accountable.

So... what?

 

[Raziaar]

Then what's your point.

We've established that the individual is responsible for their actions.
We've established that while drugs may play a part in aforementioned actions, they are not to be held accountable.

So... what?

I'm establishing the point that far too many moronic potheads believe their wonderful miracle drug doesn't cause some people to go on to live meaningless lives... that instead it must SOMEHOW just be the individual, despite the fact that they were once very active.

If you use a fork, you'll end up puncturing the eye. Gotta spoon it out to keep it unharmed

::Has a nice collection going::

Psycho! lol

 

[Absinthe]

I'm establishing the point that far too many moronic potheads believe their wonderful miracle drug doesn't cause some people to go on to live meaningless lives... that instead it must SOMEHOW just be the individual, despite the fact that they were once very active.

Marijuana doesn't cause anything. If a drug user delves into a meaningless life, then sorry, but that was an outcome entirely within their control. Blaming the drug - an inanimate object that requires human interaction - or attributing any kind of accountability is absolutely pointless, meaingless, and inane. Your little ex-active friends are responsible for whatever current position they may be in.

 

[Raziaar]

Marijuana doesn't cause anything. If a drug user delves into a meaningless life, then sorry, but that was an outcome entirely within their control. Blaming the drug - an inanimate object that requires human interaction - or attributing any kind of accountability is absolutely pointless, meaingless, and inane. Your little ex-active friends are responsible for whatever current position they may be in.

Believe it or not, but i'd describe their condition as sort of the Amotivational syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amotivational_syndrome



Anyways... i'm done.

[jest]

Damn hippies

[/jest]

 

[Raziaar]

Any drug you do can lead you into a black whole, i have tried pretty much every drug out their and some i didn't like and although the buzz was awsome, i felt the drug was too grimey and didn't touch again. It's part of growing up, dabbling into things that are shady and making mistakes. LIVE a little, you dont have to go out and shoot up heroin, but just live whatever that means to you. Why does me getting high, relieving my stress and back pains after a days of work, or chilling with my friends just to get high cuz that s what we do for fun, ahve to affect you? OR anybody else for that matter... that is all im trying to say i guess :/

I could care less about people who do drugs in their homes... its when the drug use spills out into the streets like it does all the time.

Blame it on anti drug laws... there is some of that to be blamed too, but people would still be drugged up publically even if it were legally... in fact, moreso likely. They probably couldn't be assed to stay in special little government owned shootup joints.

 

[Absinthe]

Blame it on anti drug laws... there is some of that to be blamed too, but people would still be drugged up publically even if it were legally... in fact, moreso likely. They probably couldn't be assed to stay in special little government owned shootup joints.

"Shootup joints"... your prejudice is ridiculous. And you pull a dumb assumption out of your ass to go with it, because it's just oh-so- obvious that stoners wouldn't heed the law. But of course.

Some people will be high in public. Oh no. Thank god we'd deal with them in the same way we'd deal with public drunks. No reason to make a hard time for everybody else.

 

[Raziaar]

"Shootup joints"... your prejudice is ridiculous. And you pull a dumb assumption out of your ass to go with it, because it's just oh-so- obvious that stoners wouldn't heed the law. But of course.

Some people will be high in public. Oh no. Thank god we'd deal with them in the same way we'd deal with public drunks. No reason to make a hard time for everybody else.

Dude, I used shootup joints for lack of a better term to describe the proposed government sanctioned places where people could buy and use their drugs. Quit being an ass.

People hopped up on hard drugs can be very much more different than severe alcohol consumption.

 

[Absinthe]

Quit being an ass.

Don't use degrading terminology that others might take offense to (and rightfully so).

People hopped up on hard drugs can be very much more different than severe alcohol consumption.

Since when is cannabis a hard drug?

 

[Raziaar]

Don't use degrading terminology that others might take offense to (and rightfully so).



Since when is cannabis a hard drug?

LOL. You're the one saying i'm pulling things out of my ass, and calling me prejudiced. lol.

I will admit, I am prejudiced against druggies, though.



I never called cannabis a hard drug, I was talking about hard drugs. In this mini conversation here, I dont know if you've noticed or not, I haven't ONLY been talking about buddha here.

 

[Absinthe]

LOL. You're the one saying i'm pulling things out of my ass, and calling me prejudiced. lol.

If you can find flaws or hypocrisy in my arguments, point them out.

I never called cannabis a hard drug, I was talking about hard drugs. In this mini conversation here, I dont know if you've noticed or not, I haven't ONLY been talking about buddha here.

Since when did you make that switch. I have never veered from the topic of cannabis aside from some basic posts regarding principles in accountability. Why should you?

 

[Ikerous]

Why not to smoke weed:
http://www.ninjapirate.com/whynot.html

 

[MrWhite]

Why not to smoke weed:
http://www.ninjapirate.com/whynot.html

Funny, I liked that Page, very funny, haha sarcasm FTW!

And no I wasn't being sarcastic...

Regardless, on a side note, Marijuana alters your reacting time and perception by roughly 30% no matter how much you smoke (you can only get so high, believe it or not), too much alcohol makes you retarded. Yes retarded I said it.

On a side side note...

...

Absinthe is right...

 

[who]

i smoke alot of marijuana mkay.. kids i wont say its good, but i have a doobie and read a book at the end of every day i and like it, and actually smoking cannabis alone isnt what causes the 10x likelihood of cancer, its the fact its not filtered and that most people smoke cannabis with tobbaco at the same time that increases the risk.

the major difference between tobaco and weed is one clogs the lungs (baccy) and ganja opens them up (makes it easier to breathe, hence its other uses in medicine), the only way to do it properly would be a pure splif or to eat it.
OR TO NOT DO IT ATALL (better advice). u wont stop me from doing it though. and if u do it, then dont go onto other drugs, everything else is silly.

and btw there is no limit to how high you can get, it just depends on what youre smoking. ( in the last 30 years cannabis has become 10 times stronger due to demand .. thats not good )

 

[MrWhite]

i smoke alot of marijuana mkay.. kids i wont say its good, but i have a doobie and read a book at the end of every day i and like it, and actually smoking cannabis alone isnt what causes the 10x likelihood of cancer, its the fact its not filtered and that most people smoke cannabis with tobbaco at the same time that increases the risk.

the major difference between tobaco and weed is one clogs the lungs (baccy) and ganja opens them up (makes it easier to breathe, hence its other uses in medicine), the only way to do it properly would be a pure splif or to eat it.
OR TO NOT DO IT ATALL (better advice). u wont stop me from doing it though. and if u do it, then dont go onto other drugs, everything else is silly.

and btw there is no limit to how high you can get, it just depends on what youre smoking. ( in the last 30 years cannabis has become 10 times stronger due to demand .. thats not good )

Sure they're is. Because, no matter what the stuff, usually you get to a certain point in your high, and start to come down a bit, so you may pack up another bowl to relift you to that previous part.

Look I think most of us can agree, as long as we don't operate heavy machinery or motor vehicles while stoned, dont do any other drugs like coke and meth and whatever, then there's nothing wrong with enjoying a spliff after work similar to the way people enjoy alcohol.

 

[Ennui]

well it's good for me lol *"I want to get Hiiiiigh, sooo hiiiiiiiigh"* Lol but anyways, raziaar u do know most people on the harder drugs are even more less likely to do anything disruptive due to the same reason as pot... except 10x stronger! take lets say oxycottons for example, which is a derrivitive of heroin. I have tried it, and i actually like it, but it's not something you can do all the time b/c you cant function on it like on marijuana. All drugs should be legal and if you **** up your life then you should get a personal ban on drugs and have to try and build yourself up again... thats imho.

i don't know man, i can't function when im very ****ed up. i was at the mall (serenity + cannabis = even better than it was the first time) stoned this weekend, and i could barely string together a coherent sentence (oops at the fat joint for two people only where I got 70% of it). of course i could walk, get food, act normal externally, probably even drive (tho i wouldn't), etc, but conversation... hahahaha

 

[Absinthe]

The best kind of stoned is when you forget what you were saying mid-sentence and absolutely struggle to speak again but it comes out like "I... shh... nyum... ****" and then you just sit there all flustered but you don't really care. You turn to your friend and he shrugs his shoulders like "wtf" and you do the same. You sit in silence for a few minutes and then a powerful motivator for speaking overrides all your impairments: "Dude, you got any bagel bites?"

 

[Ennui]

That was me at the mall.

"I don't think we should uh, go, like, you know... er, heh uh fyoo... hah. dude theres no way i can say this"

 

[jmjneary]

okthat studay used a synthetic type of marijuana to stimulate the hypocalumus it is 100 times stronger than regular now that does not mean 100x the high it means no high cause there was no thc in it and in marijuana thc gets you high so this is just like that gum that cae out like 6 years ago that made you smarter or something

 

[Ennui]

yes, the cannabinoid they spoke of in the study probably isn't one of the ones that contributes to the high.

 

[BF2slut]

The best kind of stoned is when you forget what you were saying mid-sentence and absolutely struggle to speak again but it comes out like "I... shh... nyum... ****" and then you just sit there all flustered but you don't really care. You turn to your friend and he shrugs his shoulders like "wtf" and you do the same. You sit in silence for a few minutes and then a powerful motivator for speaking overrides all your impairments: "Dude, you got any bagel bites?"

My problem with being really stoned is the giggles..

i'll be in the middle of a word and just giggle like a little school girl

 

[MrWhite]

Really? Sometimes I'll stoop up my sentances too because my mind races through them and my mouth cant keep up... but I rarely ever get the giggles, but things that are funny, are FUNNY.

Hey it's better than saying "Sho .a dl..." *pass out* Ah yes, good ol' alcohol.

 

[Ikerous]

The best part of being high is all amazing epiphanies
Too bad we can never remember any of em

 

[The Mullinator]

The best part of being high is all amazing epiphanies
Too bad we can never remember any of em

"Once bread becomes toast it can never go back..."
Thats one I can remember.

 

[MrWhite]

"Once bread becomes toast it can never go back..."
Thats one I can remember.

Woah...

 

[Absinthe]

Hey it's better than saying "Sho .a dl..." *pass out* Ah yes, good ol' alcohol.

That's awesome as well, but primarily when it's somebody else.

 

[BF2slut]

Really? Sometimes I'll stoop up my sentances too because my mind races through them and my mouth cant keep up... but I rarely ever get the giggles, but things that are funny, are FUNNY.

Hey it's better than saying "Sho .a dl..." *pass out* Ah yes, good ol' alcohol.

Lol yes. I got high while I was watching the Hippy episode on South Park last night :smoking:

 

[Absinthe]

slightly off topic rant

I ****ing hate freevibe. I ****ing hate all these stupid anti-weed commercials on TV. It's sickening because it insults my intelligence and I wonder how so many people can feel differently. There I was watching TV and then this clip pops up with a girl talking about how great basketball is.

"Basketball's great! Basketball builds team spirit! Basketball gives you motivation! I love basketball! Oh, and pot sucks."

...What. The. ****? This doesn't logically follow. This doesn't make any sense. Is the clip somehow trying to insinuate through bizarro logic that weed smokers can't do sports? That they're not cool enough to shoot hoops? The hell? What kind of bullshit is that? And to think that there are stupid people out there who will either be convinced by it or have their pathetic beliefs reaffirmed by such crap.
Lo and behold, I see on the net a few minutes later an image link that mentions cannabis, so I click it thinking there will be some humor to it, unsuspecting that I might get passed onto some more freevibe BS. "Freevibe" didn't appear anywhere on it. I assume they purposefully make them that way because if they didn't, people might know better than to subject themselves to such bile. Any way, I'm greeted with a nice fat center image proclaiming:

"60% of teens in drug treatment are there because of pot. Think of all the friends you'll make in rehab!"

Oh, you witty devil you. I like how your form of education is built upon acting like condescending pricks. Kids in rehab? That's a shocker! Of course, that has nothing to do with the fact that...

GIVEN THE CHOICE BETWEEN REHAB AND A PRISON SENTENCE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHOOSE THE FORMER. SO, NO SHIT THEY'RE IN REHAB. THE ALTERNATIVE WAS A FEW YEARS IN THE CAN WHERE YOU'RE BEST FRIEND IS SOAP ON A ROPE.

Jackoffs.

/slightly off topic rant

 

[>>FrEnZy<<]

hahaha soap on a rope, I just got it.

 

[MrWhite]

slightly off topic rant

I ****ing hate freevibe. I ****ing hate all these stupid anti-weed commercials on TV. It's sickening because it insults my intelligence and I wonder how so many people can feel differently. There I was watching TV and then this clip pops up with a girl talking about how great basketball is.

"Basketball's great! Basketball builds team spirit! Basketball gives you motivation! I love basketball! Oh, and pot sucks."

...What. The. ****? This doesn't logically follow. This doesn't make any sense. Is the clip somehow trying to insinuate through bizarro logic that weed smokers can't do sports? That they're not cool enough to shoot hoops? The hell? What kind of bullshit is that? And to think that there are stupid people out there who will either be convinced by it or have their pathetic beliefs reaffirmed by such crap.
Lo and behold, I see on the net a few minutes later an image link that mentions cannabis, so I click it thinking there will be some humor to it, unsuspecting that I might get passed onto some more freevibe BS. "Freevibe" didn't appear anywhere on it. I assume they purposefully make them that way because if they didn't, people might know better than to subject themselves to such bile. Any way, I'm greeted with a nice fat center image proclaiming:

"60% of teens in drug treatment are there because of pot. Think of all the friends you'll make in rehab!"

Oh, you witty devil you. I like how your form of education is built upon acting like condescending pricks. Kids in rehab? That's a shocker! Of course, that has nothing to do with the fact that...

GIVEN THE CHOICE BETWEEN REHAB AND A PRISON SENTENCE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHOOSE THE FORMER. SO, NO SHIT THEY'RE IN REHAB. THE ALTERNATIVE WAS A FEW YEARS IN THE CAN WHERE YOU'RE BEST FRIEND IS SOAP ON A ROPE.

Jackoffs.

/slightly off topic rant

What furiously driven truths this man speaks!

Yes freevibe always made me sick, and I always wanted to post on thier website (because you can post comments for everyone to see) on why it angered me, in an intelligable fashion, BUT when I hit submit, it said "Thanks for posting! You're submission is being sent to a review board."

So, apparantly they do not want people speaking out about thier blasphemy.

 

[Reaktor4]

What furiously driven truths this man speaks!

Yes freevibe always made me sick, and I always wanted to post on thier website (because you can post comments for everyone to see) on why it angered me, in an intelligable fashion, BUT when I hit submit, it said "Thanks for posting! You're submission is being sent to a review board."

So, apparantly they do not want people speaking out about thier blasphemy.

about 4 or 5 years ago lots of people from cannabis.com posted crazy fake stories there about what weed did to them and people they know and most got put on the site (mine didnt though), even ones that said stuff like it made people get polio and die etc
edit: and raziaarse shows again what a hypocritical wankshaft he is in this thread..

 

[CptStern]

dont forget!

 

[Raziaar]

dont forget!

That's such a weird Jesus image. Most images I see are a jesus of a darker, more middle eastern Jewish appearance. Just the way it should be.

 

[CptStern]

ya I thought he looked like heather graham with a beard

 

[MrWhite]

Haha, OH and for those who think smoking is against thier religion too... here, this is a good read that I found interesting...

http://www.equalrights4all.org/religious/bible.htm

"The Lord said unto me, 'I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs.' " - Isaiah 18:4-5

That jesus looks like my friend Ian who we constantly call Jesus...

Proof of my friend Jesus' existance.



JESUS IS BACK, AND HE'S DRIVING A SCION Xb!