Mel Gibson's racist rant

[Warped]

Wow I came into this thread a little too late. I saw Mel in a some tabloid at work and some women said they can't watch his movies anymore. i say hes a douchbag and Tom Hanks will always be my number 1 actor

 

[JUL3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xi9kgnvjQE

 

[V-Man339]

Wow, I'm surprised there aren't more infractions for this thread...

 

[Bad^Hat]

Obama's old pastor was a racist? Why? because he was a scary black man?

Or, you know, the stuff Obama himself apologised for on his behalf.

Ad homonym

Heheh, homo.

Wow I came into this thread a little too late. I saw Mel in a some tabloid at work and some women said they can't watch his movies anymore. i say hes a douchbag and Tom Hanks will always be my number 1 actor

... Are you Tom Hanks' ****ing agent or something? I swear to god.

 

[No Limit]

Or, you know, the stuff Obama himself apologised for on his behalf.

So you agree Wright is racist because a politician apologized on his behalf to win an election? You want to give me some specifics?

 

[ramsfan]

There is no way this dude is still arguing that no black people are racist.

I live in Michigan which is the most diverse state in the country, look it up. The biggest race issues that arise here are between whites and blacks both ways. I'm sure SOME Mexicans are racist in New Mexico. Just because you are not racist doesn't mean the whole world is.

You cannot have race without racism. For example, unfortunately, the ghetto is labeled with black people. Weather race existed or not, if everyone was the same color there would still be a ghetto. Therefore society tends to see black people as ghetto since the majority of ghetto is black.

There cannot be a colorblind system therefore there will always be racism of some sort. I know to YOU NO LIMIT race has nothing to do with anything, which is true. Since we can see color we then associate the color of ones skin with certain things, not all good. I get what you are trying to argue and why. Just because white people started racism in America doesn't mean whites are the only ones that still are today.

 

[No Limit]

Racism in what way? That they call you cracker? That they are pissed that we ****ed them over for 4 centuries? Whoopdee****ingdoo.

Yes, there are black people that don't like white people because they are bitter. There are black people that say stupid things. But none of that has any kind of effect on white society. When it comes to racism toward blacks it has a very negative effect on the entire black race.

So when I hear white people bitching about racism it's like hearing NFL players bitch about how much they are paid.

 

[OmegaX]

I keep hearing these recorded conversations on tape, however it appears one sided. They have actual audio of Mel Gibson but the other woman's voice is clearly dubbed in later. Why don't they release it raw and uncut? Makes it look like they are hiding something.

 

[No Limit]

I keep hearing these recorded conversations on tape, however it appears one sided. They have actual audio of Mel Gibson but the other woman's voice is clearly dubbed in later. Why don't they release it raw and uncut? Makes it look like they are hiding something.

Because you should never trust a bitch.

 

[Bad^Hat]

It mightn't have any effect on white people (like I said, cracker is a weak insult ), but regardless black people being racist towards whites still has an effect on the issue itself in that it creates a bigger divide between the cultures. Of course in many cases this is probably in retaliation to racism expressed towards them, like you said they're bitter, but it's still racism begetting more racism, and to say it has no effect is kind of ignoring the real problem.

Also, sorry, but if this was a tape of a black guy making remarks like this about white people, the conservative media would be all over it.

 

[ramsfan]

Also, sorry, but if this was a tape of a black guy making remarks like this about white people, the conservative media would be all over it.

Ya that's true, but the only person that would be is Rush and hes stupid. The only reason I've ever listened to him is because he makes you think, but people who believe every word he says are just ignorant.

 

[StarBob]

It mightn't have any effect on white people (like I said, cracker is a weak insult ), but regardless black people being racist towards whites still has an effect on the issue itself in that it creates a bigger divide between the cultures. Of course in many cases this is probably in retaliation to racism expressed towards them, like you said they're bitter, but it's still racism begetting more racism, and to say it has no effect is kind of ignoring the real problem.

Also, sorry, but if this was a tape of a black guy making remarks like this about white people, the conservative media would be all over it.

Yeah 'cracker' is really weak. I think someone was like "ok what's something white that's really boring?" "How about crackers?" "ok let's just go with it."

But yeah, racism and sexism isn't tolerated in any capacity these days from any source. More often than not it has no legal recourse whatsoever, but ends up more like this has so far, with a wicked media backlash and public disdain.

I also find it hilarious that someoen said "ad homonym." I want to make a joke about it but I think it's funny enough on its own.

 

[MuToiD_MaN]

Mel has the courage to say what we're all thinking.

Like his desires to take up gardening alongside his loving wife.

 

[ramsfan]

Yeah 'cracker' is really weak. I think someone was like "ok what's something white that's really boring?" "How about crackers?" "ok let's just go with it."

Ya I know its very weak. The only point of it is there is no racist term for whites so it is what was created to be a racist term. It will never had the same power as the N but its kinda like towelhead, beaner, so on.

 

[StarBob]

I find "beaner" to be hilarious just because I think beans are funny. That's just how I am. The root of the word you're referencing is weak as well, but it grew in slaverly and abolition times to be the most demeaning reference to slaves and former slaves that could be used. That was compounded by the equality struggle that lasted over a hundred years AFTER slavery ended.

The sheer amount of time this went on and the stigma it left behind is why it confounds me to see/hear anyone say that 'racism is dead' or 'it's been so long.' I once had a girl that felt it was ok to call me that because "if we keep using the word negatively it will stay negative." I barely had the words to reply. She was realy stupid though so I guess that's just how things are. I don't think anyone should use a word that in history has so emphasized the plight of a group of people. Black or white, why would anyone choose to build on a history of that nature?

Ok I'm done ranting.

 

[Rizzo]

Are you black StarBob? If not, why whould she even call you that?

I have said the word ****** in precence of black people, and I guess they where okay with it. I didn't say it as an insult, as we where joking. They called me a slavic mother ****er and shit. But seriously, ****** don't have the same stigma or whatever it does over in the states. And those who think it does are stupid.

I try to not be a racist, but on some level I think everyone kinda is. You can try to be as political correct as you want to be, but it's there. It's pretty much hardwired into us, to appreciate similarities, and fear what is different or strange.
And racism goes both ways. The **** are you guys talking about. Not just hating skin, but nationality. Look at muslims and the the Kurds. Look at black people and the nigerians. Pretty much every one hates those two.

 

[Cancer]

Obviously one sided. A lot of what he said sounded a lot like replies to what she says, which are not heard on the recording. It almost makes it sound as though Mel is just talking to him self, because there is no her side of the conversation being said at all. And what is actually heard of her saying are just completely out of context and unrelated blurps of a conversation.

I mean you can actually hear Mel becoming progressively angry when he is arguing...but nothing is being said by her. I have trouble believing that he would by himself start getting progressively angrier and then proceed to form statements in form of replies when it does not sound as though there is anyone saying anything to him.

I really think the racial remarks should be excused since this is an argument and also especially since this is between two relationship partners. I mean, serious arguments can progress to a lot of crap being said that other wise the person would not have previously said, anger can do that to you.

Also, this a "private" conversation, between two people of same race. I really hope no one is surprised when I say, conversation between people of the same race can easily and freely include racial remarks against other races. I mean, haven't you ever joked around with your friend of the same race and mentioned a few racial remarks, because you knew the other person would probably find it humorous or understand that you are not being racists and such rather than offensive. Yeah, those sort of things. Well, surprise surprise people, white people still use racial slurs and remarks between one another, because they know that neither will be offended. Come on people, quit acting like you were just born yesterday.

But the bigger and more obvious issue is still that you can only hear one side of the story and the conversation. A man can not get that angry out of the blue, especially when dealing with a woman. Despite the usual stereotype of men being these macho masculine people with no emotion, we do have our breaking points.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Also, this a "private" conversation, between two people of same race. I really hope no one is surprised when I say, conversation between people of the same race can easily and freely include racial remarks against other races. I mean, haven't you ever joked around with your friend of the same race and mentioned a few racial remarks, because you knew the other person would probably find it humorous or understand that you are not being racists and such rather than offensive. Yeah, those sort of things. Well, surprise surprise people, white people still use racial slurs and remarks between one another, because they know that neither will be offended. Come on people, quit acting like you were just born yesterday.

If you can't tell the difference between a statement made in good humour and one with actual malicious intent, then you're the one who was born yesterday.

 

[Cancer]

If you can't tell the difference between a statement made in good humour and one with actual malicious intent, then you're the one who was born yesterday.

I was referring to people freaking over the fact that he used a racial sure against black people. And that, it should not come of to anyone's surprise that, of all people, someone of a race which is not black would be using such slurs. I mean, are expecting Mel to be some saint, who would not be using any racist remarks at all? Basically that, not whether it is said in good humor or not, but the fact "OMG! He is a racist!" commotion, as if someone saying something racist is this unheard of concept, especially when said during a heavy argument.

 

[Absinthe]

Yes, I drop the N-bomb occasionally in the presence of my esteemed, white colleagues.

No, I do not sound anything like Mel Gibson, who comes off as a raving, racist loon. I understand people speak freely (often crudely) in a private conversation. But the words coming out of his mouth belie something pretty unhealthy.

 

[Rizzo]

So, what do you think about these reports claiming the tape has been tampered with? They have apperantly edited the tape to make him say things he really didn't. And Oksanas voice had been added later, so we don't know what she said.

This don't really excuse Mel from everything, but it does show that she tried to blackmail and or ruin him, if this is true.

 

[VirusType2]

Fighting for custody of the child, he sealed his doom, IMO. Any hint of instability and you lose.

 

[ramsfan]

Fighting for custody of the child, he sealed his doom, IMO. Any hint of instability and you lose.

They didn't have a warrant or his consent to record the conversions on the phone. These cannot be used in court in anyway what so ever. If Mel Gibson had said all these things on a voice-mail, then he would be saying them knowing that they were being recorded on a voice-mail.

If anything she should be worried about a lawsuit.

 

[No Limit]

So, what do you think about these reports claiming the tape has been tampered with? They have apperantly edited the tape to make him say things he really didn't. And Oksanas voice had been added later, so we don't know what she said.

This don't really excuse Mel from everything, but it does show that she tried to blackmail and or ruin him, if this is true.

Interesting, I havent seen the reports that they were editted but that would make a lot of sense.

 

[VirusType2]

They didn't have a warrant or his consent to record the conversions on the phone. These cannot be used in court in anyway what so ever. If Mel Gibson had said all these things on a voice-mail, then he would be saying them knowing that they were being recorded on a voice-mail.

If anything she should be worried about a lawsuit.

Yeah, I'm not even talking about that. His girlfriend is somewhat irrelevant regarding the custody of his child, although his wife can easily argue that it would be a bad environment for their children. (Also, he had this girlfriend while still married, which is doomsday, really).

He seems a little unstable, and has gotten somewhat of a bad rep (and at least one conviction), and it really doesn't matter if it's a little bit, the child will go to the better caretaker.

Generally, the children go with their mother anyway without a good case, so like I said, sealed his doom.

 

[teh_watchererer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG85jFbihB8