More 'help' for trafficking victims

[Solaris]

Freed victims of human trafficking are to be granted the right to stay in the UK for at least 30 days, the Home Office is expected to announce.

The government is to sign a European convention giving victims more time to recover from their ordeal before deciding whether to help police.
Thousands of women brought into the UK from places like eastern Europe are forced to work in the sex trade.
Ministers have until now refused to join the agreement, framed in 2005.

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This makes me sick. I saw this as a BBC headline. The BBC reports it as if it's such a kind act from our government. Now we'll let people who are kidnapped, brought over here, forced into prostitution and raped stay here for 30 days before deporting them. How ****ing kind. If I had my way these people would be allowed to stay here as long as they want, get free health care and the government would help find them a decent job. It's only ****ing human.

Thanks to anti-immigrant hysteria by hate rags such as the daily mail the government, in a bid to please these idiots is tough on immigrants to the point of being humane. School children and their families are routinely deported to Zimbabwe where amnesty international have said they face serious risks of violence.

It's really horrific. Immigrants get treated like shit in Britian alot of the time, and I blame media reports like this for it.

 

[Shodan]

If a girl comes to england in the hope of work, and is forced into the sex trade, do you really think they'd want to stay here for 30 mins, let alone start a life here?

I'd want to go home.

 

[HunterSeeker]

If a girl comes to england in the hope of work, and is forced into the sex trade, do you really think they'd want to stay here for 30 mins, let alone start a life here?

I'd want to go home.

That is irrelevant, the point is that they should be allowed to stay as long as they want to.

 

[Gray Fox]

They shouldn't be allowed to stay, it's still illegal immigration, which if unchecked could damage the economy, and in the end do more harm to the whole country and it's citizens. And this could be exploited, by people pretending to be victims of this.

Care should certainly be taken, and if necessary a stay of 6 months or more, but not more then a year, to ensure the victim has enough time to recover and a safe life, work, and place of living can be guaranteed in his or her homeland.

Exceptions would have to be taken for people that have extra to fear then just a job, like homosexuals from Iran.
And even their stay should be given on the basis of their opinion and willingness to integrate in the country's society, there is no point in letting one who flee's from lets say a strict Islamic dictatorship stay in the country if he himself or herself follows it and would want to see it become the law of the host country, in that case you get sent back and get what you deserve.

 

[CrazyHarij]

They shouldn't be allowed to stay, it's still illegal immigration, which if unchecked could damage the economy, and in the end do more harm to the whole country and it's citizens. And this could be exploited, by people pretending to be victims of this.

do you even read what you type out?

Care should certainly be taken, and if necessary a stay of 6 months or more, but not more then a year, to ensure the victim has enough time to recover and a safe life, work, and place of living can be guaranteed in his or her homeland.

6 months is a piss in the sea. it's hardly time to find somewhere to live, let alone a job. making sure the person has somewhere to live in his home country? it's practically impossible.

 

[Solaris]

They shouldn't be allowed to stay, it's still illegal immigration, which if unchecked could damage the economy, and in the end do more harm to the whole country and it's citizens. And this could be exploited, by people pretending to be victims of this.

Care should certainly be taken, and if necessary a stay of 6 months or more, but not more then a year, to ensure the victim has enough time to recover and a safe life, work, and place of living can be guaranteed in his or her homeland.

Exceptions would have to be taken for people that have extra to fear then just a job, like homosexuals from Iran.
And even their stay should be given on the basis of their opinion and willingness to integrate in the country's society, there is no point in letting one who flee's from lets say a strict Islamic dictatorship stay in the country if he himself or herself follows it and would want to see it become the law of the host country, in that case you get sent back and get what you deserve.

Yes, because you get a **** load of Islamist prostitutes don't you.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Maybe you don't. I'm a magnet. Aaww yeah.

Being serious for a moment, that is pretty shitty. I can't help thinking it might be expedient to, you know, let them be citizens, allowing them to contribute to the economic growth and social life of the country.

...ere, why ain't this in Politics?

 

[Gray Fox]

do you even read what you type out?

Are you trying to say something, or do you just get off on it

6 months is a piss in the sea. it's hardly time to find somewhere to live, let alone a job. making sure the person has somewhere to live in his home country? it's practically impossible.

I don't eve nknow if I should even give you a reply since you ignored my arguments concerning the economy and impact of illegal immigration and just preceded to be an ass.

But I believe it is,sufficient time to find their relatives, if they have any. Give them treatment, and find a home for them.
They do not have to search for themselves, the government would help them.

The alternative that you and solaris propose would be system that could be easily exploited, and in the end would hurt the host country. Immigration is not an easy or inexpensive issue, allowing someone to stay, and making sure they can have a chance at good life, getting a job, giving them education and dealing with their respected upbringing and views on society is very hard and seeing as the system would be easily exploited it could quickly drain the recourses of the country leaving future victims in an even dire situation when the rules are sharpend and funding cut.

 

[Gray Fox]

Yes, because you get a **** load of Islamist prostitutes don't you.

It was just an example, thats no excuse for you to ignore the rest of my arguments and act like a douche.

 

[CrazyHarij]

yeah, but the thing is, we're not talking about immigration here but victims of trafficking. talking about how it could be exploited ignores what it's actually trying to do, help the victims rather than kick them out the door

 

[Solaris]

Gray, it's precisely because of people like you why these poor woman are going to get such a hard time.

Immigration is not an issue, we have plenty of room in England, plenty of jobs. If we run out of jobs, the government could just create more, immigrants want to live and work legally and pay taxes, it's because we make things so hard for them that they don't.

 

[15357]

I don't think people who are kidnapped and raped and forced into inhuman sexual services would want to stay in the UK for 30 days.

 

[Gray Fox]

yeah, but the thing is, we're not talking about immigration here but victims of trafficking. talking about how it could be exploited ignores what it's actually trying to do, help the victims rather than kick them out the door

Well trafficking victims are usually people who wanted to immigrate illegally to another country, and got involved with the wrong people, so they are still illegal immigrants. And if they were kidnapped people, well in that case they are usually more then happy to return.

 

[Solaris]

Well trafficking victims are usually people who wanted to immigrate illegally to another country, and got involved with the wrong people, so they are still illegal immigrants. And if they were kidnapped people, well in that case they are usually more then happy to return.

Yes, but even if they had the intention of working here illegally, they must be traumatized.

I hate it how people demonise illegal immigrants, when all they are guilty of is trying to honestly make a decent living, often sending back money to their families to put their kids into school or whatever.

 

[Gray Fox]

Gray, it's precisely because of people like you why these poor woman are going to get such a hard time.

Immigration is not an issue, we have plenty of room in England, plenty of jobs. If we run out of jobs, the government could just create more, immigrants want to live and work legally and pay taxes, it's because we make things so hard for them that they don't.

The difference between the west and the rest of the world is so great that allowing free immigration would probably mean that to much people would come in to the country then the country can handle.

Immigration is a long and expensive process, I know from experience.

They have to be schooled, the need to learn the language, they need a place to live, and though legal they are still very vulnerable, and will need even more special attention.

Not to mention they come from society's with vastly different values that are often opposed to our own, but as citizens they must be given free speech, even if that means some of them would be fundamentalist extremist that would be allowed allowed to spew hate at the very country that gave then citizenship, and the same rules that give them the freedom to spew hate.

Now money and jobs have to come from somewhere, and heavy immigration would put a big burden on the taxpayers, and would divert funds from other area's thus diminishing the country's competitiveness. And for what, many people would be angry because jobs would harder to get, salaries would go down.
I do not believe the west as a whole could handle it, and a lone country would be totally ruined. Since it would become such big focus for immigrants.

Improving the situation of these people should be done by giving their home country's fairer trade deals, more economic aid,and not exploiting them. Thus diminishing the need for immigration in the first place.

And I believe it's people who don't mind exploiting other people that are giving them such hard time not people like me.

 

[Jintor]

It should be up to the people themselves, right? Give them the choice to go back or to stay. But assist them in all matters, ey?

 

[Ennui]

At least you guys don't have a frighteningly large number of people pushing to close the border to Mexico.

Not that you have a border to Mexico, but you get my meaning.

 

[repiV]

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This makes me sick. I saw this as a BBC headline. The BBC reports it as if it's such a kind act from our government. Now we'll let people who are kidnapped, brought over here, forced into prostitution and raped stay here for 30 days before deporting them. How ****ing kind. If I had my way these people would be allowed to stay here as long as they want, get free health care and the government would help find them a decent job. It's only ****ing human.

Thanks to anti-immigrant hysteria by hate rags such as the daily mail the government, in a bid to please these idiots is tough on immigrants to the point of being humane. School children and their families are routinely deported to Zimbabwe where amnesty international have said they face serious risks of violence.

It's really horrific. Immigrants get treated like shit in Britian alot of the time, and I blame media reports like this for it.

This country is not a ****ing charity. And stop with your inane "immigrants get treated like shit" bollocks, immigrants get better treatment than people who were born here half the time. Perhaps you should go and live in Japan for a while and see how they do things.

 

[99.vikram]

immigrants get better treatment than people who were born here half the time.

Quoted for idiocy.

 

[repiV]

Quoted for idiocy.

How the hell would you know? Do you live here?

You live in one of the most culturally insular countries on the planet, what place would you possibly have to comment on the issues of mass immigration and cultural pluralism?

 

[Jintor]

I guess it is now unrealistic for me to expect that a government would treat its own citizens better than immigrants.

Sure, it's more fair, but I guess human nature has been DEFEATED!

...anyway, explain.

 

[repiV]

I guess it is now unrealistic for me to expect that a government would treat its own citizens better than immigrants.

Sure, it's more fair, but I guess human nature has been DEFEATED!

...anyway, explain.

Positive discrimination/affirmative action, whichever you call it.
Giving special privileges to walk all over our way of life to immigrants.
Accepting racism against whites but not from them (or even the discussion of race-related topics that have no bearing on racism).
Waiving our laws for the sake of foreign religions - Sikhs don't have to wear motorcycle helmets, Muslim women can walk into a bank wearing a veil and don't have to wear the same school uniforms that every other kid in the country does.

I can go five miles down the road and it's like I just left England. I bet vikram would soon change his mind if white ghettos starting springing up all over Bangalore, where national traditions are ignored, there isn't a single Indian person to be seen and there are Christmas lights instead of Diwali lights everywhere. i.e. Wembley in reverse.

There's a reason people are leaving this country en masse, and it has nothing to do with immigrants being dealt a bad hand.

I can tell you right now that immigrants from the West to the East face far more discrimination and social isolation than vice versa - and the social isolation that immigrants suffer over here is precisely DUE to this bullshit idea of multiculturalism and special dispensation which creates resentment and encourages them not to integrate.


It's not like I cast judgement down from my ivory tower, this is where I live:

Although once perceived as a white elderly borough, Harrow is now very ethnically diverse and younger. Ethnic minorities now make up around about 60% of the borough's population. It has the highest density of Hindus in the UK[1] and there are a growing number of settlers from the African continent, especially from Somalia. There are also a lot of Irish people living in the borough. A large number of Jewish people live in Stanmore and Hatch End, though some are now moving out and being replaced by Hindus.

In 2005, Harrow's first multicultural music festival, Under One Sky, was held to celebrate its ethnic diversity.

In October 2006, the office of National Statistics named Harrow as the most religiously diverse region in the United Kingdom, with a 62% chance that two random people would be from different religions.

And it ain't a pretty place.

 

[99.vikram]

You live in one of the most culturally insular countries on the planet

True, but that doesn't say anything about me.

 

[repiV]

True, but that doesn't say anything about me.

No, but it says lots about the validity of your views on immigration and the problems it can cause.
I wouldn't be surprised if I had as many Hindu friends as you do when I was at college!

 

[99.vikram]

...

You're generalising from what you experienced firsthand.

 

[repiV]

You're generalising from what you experienced firsthand.

Telling you the reality on the ground is generalising? Please explain that one.

Britain has the largest number of citizens living overseas except for China and India, and this is a mainly recent trend which has exploded since all this multiculturalism shit in the last decade.

Make of that what you will. It doesn't mean anything to be British anymore.

 

[Stormy]

In a way i agree with repiV but i think your going a little over the top. There is nothing wrong with cultral diversity. Cultral diversity makes the uk a great place where you can meet people from all over the world and get awsome food / goods etc. But the problem lies on who is being let in. Skilled migrents who bring somthing to the country are very much welcome, they boost the economy, work in high skilled postions such doctors, and are very unliky to course any trouble in socity. It is the unskilled migrents who ponce off the goverment who are the problem. The goverement are very soft on migrents in the uk and give them a ton of money and housing, often migrents seem to get favored over our own citizens which is wrong. The goverement should first work on correcting our own problems befor brining in more. It is the unskilled migrents who cause problems with gangs/crimes/traffiking and all the rest of it as they cannot do anything better.

 

[Asknoone]

And stop with your inane "immigrants get treated like shit" bollocks, immigrants get better treatment than people who were born here half the time.

Am I supposed to be caring here? Seriously, as though that's some incentive to brush off the fact that the majority of the country in it's nationalistic (read: xenophobia) rage treats these people like common dirt; people like yourself I dare say. As though there's some barrier between ourselves and them, and as usual you are doing nothing more than generalizing. Most of my family share the same mundane view as you, and it worrys me that the majority of this shit hole country do too.

 

[repiV]

In a way i agree with repiV but i think your going a little over the top. There is nothing wrong with cultral diversity. Cultral diversity makes the uk a great place where you can meet people from all over the world and get awsome food / goods etc. But the problem lies on who is being let in. Skilled migrents who bring somthing to the country are very much welcome, they boost the economy, work in high skilled postions such doctors, and are very unliky to course any trouble in socity. It is the unskilled migrents who ponce off the goverment who are the problem. The goverement are very soft on migrents in the uk and give them a ton of money and housing, often migrents seem to get favored over our own citizens which is wrong. The goverement should first work on correcting our own problems befor brining in more. It is the unskilled migrents who cause problems with gangs/crimes/traffiking and all the rest of it as they cannot do anything better.

It depends on your definition of cultural diversity, and in the right way it is certainly a good thing.
America is an extremely culturally diverse place, but they still share one overriding culture and are still united by a common bond.
Britain's approach encourages lots of completely separate cultures to co-exist, not interact and have no bonds. AKA multiculturalism. It's a catastrophic failed experiment that has caused nothing but unhappiness, segregation, insulation and violence.
Hong Kong is a very culturally diverse place, like a gateway between East and West but make no mistake it is very much Chinese.

I'm not sure where all these unskilled migrants come from to be honest - I qualify for a work visa in China and a number of other third world countries to teach English - that's it. If I wanted to do the same in a more prosperous country, I'd need a degree and/or a high level of experience.

Am I supposed to be caring here? Seriously, as though that's some incentive to brush off the fact that the majority of the country in it's nationalistic (read: xenophobia) rage treats these people like common dirt; people like yourself I dare say. As though there's some barrier between ourselves and them, and as usual you are doing nothing more than generalizing. Most of my family share the same mundane view as you, and it worrys me that the majority of this shit hole country do too.

Nationalistic rage? In Britain?
This is the country that's ashamed of itself you're talking about here.
I find it quite comical that you make a completely unsubstantiated generalisation that makes no sense in order to counter what you see as a generalisation.
Absolute nonsense.

You also have it completely the wrong way round - we extend a hand of acceptance, the "barrier" is created by immigrants who refuse to integrate, wear the veil, assert their right to change our traditions to suit them, create their own little isolated communities and the socialist morons that encourage them to continue doing so.
I don't give a **** where people come from, so long as they accept our way of life. In fact I find I have the most natural affinity with Anglicised Indians/Sri Lankans - try thinking before accusing me and most of the country of "treating these people like dirt".

 

[Sulkdodds]

I find it quite comical that you make a completely unsubstantiated generalisation that makes no sense in order to counter what you see as a generalisation.

Is it just me, or are you doing this as well? It's conducive to your political argument that Britain is "ashamed of itself" (I've seen little evidence) while it helps Samon's argument to claim the UK is primarily nationalistic/xenophobic (I've seen little evidence).

 

[repiV]

Is it just me, or are you doing this as well? It's conducive to your political argument that Britain is "ashamed of itself" (I've seen little evidence) while it helps Samon's argument to claim the UK is primarily nationalistic/xenophobic (I've seen little evidence).

I didn't mean it entirely literally. As a nation, we're probably one of the least patriotic out there. We hold that our traditions are no more important than any others, for fear of offending someone or being "racist", we consider the flag a symbol of empire and brainwashing rather than display it, we tend to believe that the British Empire was a merciless machine of evil and good luck finding someone who knows the national anthem.
Even as an empire, we were always outward-looking - keen to preserve the unique cultures and identities of the colonies we brought under our control. We're a far cry from being nationalistic and xenophobic.

 

[Solaris]

Positive discrimination/affirmative action, whichever you call it.
Giving special privileges to walk all over our way of life to immigrants.

I don't really understand, how do immigrants walk over your way of life and in what way do they get privileges to do it, where I would not.

Accepting racism against whites but not from them (or even the discussion of race-related topics that have no bearing on racism).

Who accepts that? The only people I ever see making a fuss over that is the BNP type.
"ZOMG they are racist so we must lynch them all!"

Waiving our laws for the sake of foreign religions - Sikhs don't have to wear motorcycle helmets, Muslim women can walk into a bank wearing a veil and don't have to wear the same school uniforms that every other kid in the country does.

I agree that that shouldn't be acceptable, I'm all in favor of a more secular society. But I don't think that has much relation to immigration. I mean, you can hardly blame immigration for the fact that a large percentage of the house of Lords, a house which decides on what laws we adopts are Bishops appointed by the Church of England, thats far bigger a problem than Mr. Singh not wearing a helmet.

I can go five miles down the road and it's like I just left England.

Boo hoo.

I bet vikram would soon change his mind if white ghettos starting springing up all over Bangalore, where national traditions are ignored, there isn't a single Indian person to be seen and there are Christmas lights instead of Diwali lights everywhere. i.e. Wembley in reverse.

Sure, lets blame the immigrants for the fact that we won't let them work legally and force them into ghettos!

I can tell you right now that immigrants from the West to the East face far more discrimination and social isolation than vice versa - and the social isolation that immigrants suffer over here is precisely DUE to this bullshit idea of multiculturalism and special dispensation which creates resentment and encourages them not to integrate.

Becuase you immigrate to Pakistan all the time I suppose. I bet you fit in real well, best pals.

It's not like I cast judgement down from my ivory tower, this is where I live:

And I live in Burnley, we had race riots a few years ago that made international news. We had and still do have around 20% of our council BNP. It's a horrible, non-multicultural place, with one race living in one place of burnley going to different schools, and others in different places.

 

[repiV]

I don't really understand, how do immigrants walk over your way of life and in what way do they get privileges to do it, where I would not.

By turning areas of my country into Little India or Little Iraq?
By saying a big "**** you" to everything this country stands for by wearing veils, openly opposing our nation and considering our way of life immoral?
By restricting freedom of speech through threat of violence and political correctness?

Who accepts that? The only people I ever see making a fuss over that is the BNP type.
"ZOMG they are racist so we must lynch them all!"

Quotas, special associations for minority groups, special interest groups...all racist institutions.

I agree that that shouldn't be acceptable, I'm all in favor of a more secular society. But I don't think that has much relation to immigration. I mean, you can hardly blame immigration for the fact that a large percentage of the house of Lords, a house which decides on what laws we adopts are Bishops appointed by the Church of England, thats far bigger a problem than Mr. Singh not wearing a helmet.

It's this country's roll-over-and-play-dead apologetic attitude to immigration. Again, it goes back to shame. We are afraid to assert our own ways in our own borders.

Boo hoo.

Boo hoo?
You might not care, but most people do and they have every right to. Last time I checked, I live in London, not Calcutta. And if I visit Calcutta, I don't want to visit a place that eerily resembles a hot sandy London either. Likewise, I'd like to come back home afterwards.

Sure, lets blame the immigrants for the fact that we won't let them work legally and force them into ghettos!

Ignorant comment of the day.

Becuase you immigrate to Pakistan all the time I suppose. I bet you fit in real well, best pals.

Since when did the entire Eastern hemisphere consist of Muslim shitholes? What kind of dumbass comment is that?
There are millions of Westerners - myself to be among them hopefully - living in Japan, China, Hong Kong, Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, India, you name it...and they face infinitely more racism than any immigrants do over here. Find me a white Japanese police officer and I'll give you a fiver.

And I live in Burnley, we had race riots a few years ago that made international news. We had and still do have around 20% of our council BNP. It's a horrible, non-multicultural place, with one race living in one place of burnley going to different schools, and others in different places.

Actually, you just described the most perfect example of multiculturalism in action. Thanks for illustrating the problem so aptly.

 

[Solaris]

By turning areas of my country into Little India or Little Iraq?
By saying a big "**** you" to everything this country stands for by wearing veils, openly opposing our nation and considering our way of life immoral?
By restricting freedom of speech through threat of violence and political correctness?

Arguably, a veil is freedom of speech. What you're saying there is so vague you might as not say anything.
How are what you described "Special privileges"?

Quotas, special associations for minority groups, special interest groups...all racist institutions.

What so groups such as the Muslim council of Britain are anti-white?

It's this country's roll-over-and-play-dead apologetic attitude to immigration. Again, it goes back to shame. We are afraid to assert our own ways in our own borders.

Yes, we're afraid of immigrants, that makes sense. God knows what india might do if we don't let any more indians in. THEY MIGHT INVADE!

Boo hoo?
You might not care, but most people do and they have every right to. Last time I checked, I live in London, not Calcutta. And if I visit Calcutta, I don't want to visit a place that eerily resembles a hot sandy London either. Likewise, I'd like to come back home afterwards.

Everything changes. A curry house is as British as fish and chips.

Since when did the entire Eastern hemisphere consist of Muslim shitholes? What kind of dumbass comment is that?
There are millions of Westerners - myself to be among them hopefully - living in Japan, China, Hong Kong, Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, India, you name it...and they face infinitely more racism than any immigrants do over here. Find me a white Japanese police officer and I'll give you a fiver.

In what way are you qualified to say: "I can tell you right now that immigrants from the West to the East face far more discrimination and social isolation than vice"

Actually, you just described the most perfect example of multiculturalism in action. Thanks for illustrating the problem so aptly.

Yes, groups of white youths going round bricking the houses of Asian windows and what not.

 

[repiV]

Arguably, a veil is freedom of speech. What you're saying there is so vague you might as not say anything.
How are what you described "Special privileges"?

Covering your face is not considered acceptable in British culture. By tolerating the veil, we are granting special privileges.
I have to take my helmet off to go into the bank or pay for petrol, which is a right pain in the arse as I wear glasses and especially if it's raining, but a Muslim woman with her veil would have no such hassle.
Special school uniforms are another such privilege.

What so groups such as the Muslim council of Britain are anti-white?

Evidently, yes.

Yes, we're afraid of immigrants, that makes sense. God knows what india might do if we don't let any more indians in. THEY MIGHT INVADE!

Not that kind of fear, numbnuts.

Everything changes. A curry house is as British as fish and chips.

No it isn't. Also, a curry house does not encroach on our culture and identity any more than a McDonalds or kebab house does.
An entire suburb that looks like it's been airlifted out of Calcutta is something else entirely.

In what way are you qualified to say: "I can tell you right now that immigrants from the West to the East face far more discrimination and social isolation than vice"

Because as someone who is planning to emigrate to Asia, I've done a lot of research and spoken to a lot of people about the subject?
You might want to check out the subject of landlords not renting property to dirty foreigners in Japan, or how Africans and Indians are treated in Hong Kong. How impossible it is to become a part of Korean society without being Korean.
The Japanese are great hosts, but as far as their society is concerned, foreigners will always remain as guests in their country. You can never become Japanese as you can become British, or American.

Yes, groups of white youths going round bricking the houses of Asian windows and what not.

Welcome to multiculturalism. A truly successful society can only have one host culture.

 

[Asknoone]

Covering your face is not considered acceptable in British culture.

Why ever should they give a shit about British culture? They weren't born on this Earth to do what is 'considered' by the British to be 'acceptable'. Sure, you come here, live by the rules, but that is by no means a rule. I take my helmet or hat off as a matter of courtesy, not because I consider it 'British' or that I'm bound by the rules of a religion.

which is a right pain in the arse as I wear glasses

Try contacts.

 

[ríomhaire]

I have mixed feelings on it. While they do deserve sympathy they don't have any right to be in the bloody country.

 

[repiV]

Why ever should they give a shit about British culture? They weren't born on this Earth to do what is 'considered' by the British to be 'acceptable'. Sure, you come here, live by the rules, but that is by no means a rule. I take my helmet or hat off as a matter of courtesy, not because I consider it 'British' or that I'm bound by the rules of a religion.

If they don't give a shit about British culture, they reserve the right to go back to where they came from.

Try contacts.

I have dry eyes.

 

[lePobz]

I adopt Ali G's take on migrants. If they're fit, let them in.

Pimpin' ass that dont wanna be on the streets is some f***ed up s**t tho, bro.

 

[Solaris]

I have mixed feelings on it. While they do deserve sympathy they don't have any right to be in the bloody country.

Why not?

Why should one person be forced to live a life of poverty whilst another gets free education health care and plenty of care and opportunity for success because of where they were born.