mp deductions

[Sai]

thanks to merc we can safely say that hl2's true mp will not be cs:s for it will feature air and ground vehicles, that leaves tf2, dod, or an original mp for hl2's official mp, right now my money's on tf2 i can see dod having them b/c it's a war game but tf2 seems to stand out from the three for me, how about you guys?

 

[Gunner]

Actually I wouldn't mind at all it its' MP were CS:Source. Hell even if it's Ricochet I'd still be happy

 

[Chris D]

TF2 is a standalone retail product. DoD:S isn't popular enough to be forced on to people as a multiplayer game. And from what merc said it was hard to tell whether or not it's just possible to mod it or if it's actually possible straight out of the game.

 

[pgod]

The HL2's MP will be simple Deathmatch using maps inspired by parts of the Singleplayer.
I am totally sure about that because everything else would be stupid... sorry

Also, there will never be vehicles in CS:S, Valve ment that ground and even
air vehicles are possible with their multiplayer code, thats all.

 

[Sai]

TF2 is a standalone retail product. DoD:S isn't popular enough to be forced on to people as a multiplayer game. And from what merc said it was hard to tell whether or not it's just possible to mod it or if it's actually possible straight out of the game.

original mp?
that would be really exiting and it would make sense b/c tf2 and dod don't at all fit in with the hl2 storyline

 

[Mr. Redundant]

Im hoping that there wasnt a misunderstanding, and that MP for HL2 will indeed have air vehicles.... that would totally own me.
but most likely Gabe meant that HL2 mp will have air vehicles.. and it would have to be done by modders.

 

[Sparta]

The HL2's MP will be simple Deathmatch using maps inspired by parts of the Singleplayer.
I am totally sure about that because everything else would be stupid... sorry

Also, there will never be vehicles in CS:S, Valve ment that ground and even
air vehicles are possible with their multiplayer code, thats all.

Sorry dude but thats all pure speculation, and your interpretation. Valve have stated that HL2's MP is just as important as the SP portion of the game, so i doubt its simple deathmatch.

 

[Sai]

Im hoping that there wasnt a misunderstanding, and that MP for HL2 will indeed have air vehicles.... that would totally own me.
but most likely Gabe meant that HL2 mp will have air vehicles.. and it would have to be done by modders.

if so, then why even mention that it will support vehicles, i think everybody who didn't already know that has predicted that it would, are you sure he's not talking about original hl2 mp?

 

[G-Dub]

The HL2's MP will be simple Deathmatch using maps inspired by parts of the Singleplayer.
I am totally sure about that because everything else would be stupid... sorry

Also, there will never be vehicles in CS:S, Valve ment that ground and even
air vehicles are possible with their multiplayer code, thats all.

i believe the same thing, it will be mp maps inspired by the sp game

 

[pgod]

Yeah it could be more than simple deathmatch, I just think it won't be anything that isn't related to HL2.

And yes it's speculation

 

[Sparta]

Frankly i'm hoping its MP that is HL2 themed and with vehicles. If thats what it is, that would totally rock

 

[pgod]

Manipulator is also a must have

 

[Alec_85]

To me, it sounds reasonable that the HL2 MP will be the same as the story kind of. Several fractions of rebellious (sp?) C17-citizens fighting the Combine. The barricade movie from last year could easily be turned into MP right? Looked like a perfect setting.

 

[G-Dub]

Manipulator is also a must have

wooooh, a server full of peeps using manipulators! that will be mental!

 

[Absinthe]

HL2 MP will be something by itself.

We won't be seeing TF2 for some time to come.

 

[MindCrafter]

The HL2's MP will be simple Deathmatch using maps inspired by parts of the Singleplayer.
I am totally sure about that because everything else would be stupid... sorry

Also, there will never be vehicles in CS:S, Valve ment that ground and even
air vehicles are possible with their multiplayer code, thats all.

Finally, a guy who gets it. I'm with you on this!

 

[Runteh]

Well are they not selling multiplayer + singleplayer, and singleplayer only versions of the game. Who would pay that much extra for a simple deathmatch.

They kept HL2 secret until its announcement last year, so who knows what the MP is.

I am sure it will have ground/air/hoover vehicles, as any mp game that does not support that now is, imo, behind the times.

 

[tokin]

Quote:
Originally Posted by merc
Exact words from Erik about TF2:

"They will kill me if I say anything about it."

That is all I know... lol

-merc


1. It's the multiplayer
2. They want all the attention on HL2 for now
3. It's going to blow us away and just want to hold off until after HL2 is shipped.
4. Don't want to talk about it or announce it because it's more of a hazzel for the valve team to finish up HL2. They want to finish HL2 so they wont be bugged down by tons of people to find out more about TF2.

I want to believe it's the multiplayer but i just cant, it's like they are so proud of TF2 (especially cause of the models around the building of the weapons and all) so they don't want to say one thing about it and then out of know where start talking about with a preview or something. A lot of you don't know about this game but it'll be up there with CS:S prolly even CS2. I think im going more with reasion 4 only because thats typical of valve, plus they need to finish HL2. Secondly they have said numerous amount of times that they are going to wait until HL2 ships to talk more about it, so its either the suprise multiplayer or they dont need bugged about it and just want HL2 shipped....surely one or the other..if not both

 

[aeroripper]

wouldn't it be cool if the multiplayer was a continuation of the story of HL2?

Or maybe more like a spinoff of certain areas in the game putting you maybe in a "what if" scenario ... like assault game types or something

that's be cool, throw vehicles and stuff in there even better :-D

its just absolutely amazing how starved the community is for info... one guy goes to valve with a couple of pictures and the whole community goes insane

guess that means valve is really doing its job of keeping a lot of it underwraps :-D

that and marketing :-D

 

[Paintballer]

lol,

I definately don't get why people think that HL2 multiplayer is going to be anything more than a normal HL2 DM, TDM, CTF, King of the Hill, etc. Sure, the multiplayer could be awesome, but its still going to be the standard multiplayer.

Just use your brains people, its Valve we are talking about. They are going to want money for everything that people could buy. They have even said that TF2 will be a standalone game. Its not going to be the source conversions either, since those will also be sold separately. THEY WANT TO GET AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN WITH THESE RELEASES!

So, you can mark my words:
-HL2 will have standard HL2ish MP modes (even if they throw some new gametypes in, it will still be HL2 themed).
-TF2 will be sold as a completely different game.
-The Source conversions will be included with the CE of HL2, all sold stand-alone, or sold as a package.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Sorry dude but thats all pure speculation, and your interpretation. Valve have stated that HL2's MP is just as important as the SP portion of the game, so i doubt its simple deathmatch.

who says that simple DM for HL2's MP can't important?

like Chris_D has stated, Valve have said TF2 will be a standalone retail product in the past...so that means HL2's MP can't be TF2.

about CS:Source.. i can't remember where i read this (its somewhere on this site) but when questioned about CS:Source, DOD:Source and the rest of Valve's titles.. Valve said that these Source conversions will be available for "bargin bin deals" so i think that ends the whole CS:Source being HL2's MP.

like a few others have pointed out, i think HL2's MP will be DM/TDM with some touches of SP areas included

 

[Mr. Redundant]

if so, then why even mention that it will support vehicles, i think everybody who didn't already know that has predicted that it would, are you sure he's not talking about original hl2 mp?

just because MP supports vehicles, doesnt mean Valve will include them (that seems to be the norm on things that the engine can support).
we all know vehicles will be in MP, however Gabe said there were NO Air vehicles in sp that the player could control (valve info thread) now thats fine, but someone else asked about air vehicles in MP and his answer was along the lines of "its possible to implement"

thats how Valve word things.

ex:
Q: does HL2 have a multiplayer component
A: Source does have capabilities for multiplayer gaming.

Valve like leading us on... or at least keeping us in suspense on things.
everything they say is carefuly formulated into cryptic messages, where either way you dont know whats potting.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Valve like leading us on... or at least keeping us in suspense on things.
everything they say is carefuly formulated into cryptic messages, where either way you dont know whats potting.

wheres our Steam haxxor Chris_D at?
maybe he can break down the "cryptic messages"

 

[wonkers]

TF2 will be a standalone product. The biggest clue we have is that they are selling just singleplayer HL2. Who would pay for shitty HLdm. I bet that HL2 comes with THE COMPLETE TF2 game which will also be sold seperatly.

Valve loves to have secrets and they kept the lid MP for a reason. Either we have TF2 with the game or free access to DOD:s CS:s & some lame multi.

I will only be satisfied by something amazing. so there

 

[tokin]

Some of you are right, valve has stated that TF2 will be standalone, but it's never crossed your mind they are trying to throw us off? They refuse to talk about it, i mean REFUSE to...it's either one of the multiplayers shipping with it as with HL2 DM too or something or it's that they dont need to be bugged anymore about another game with interviews/previews/etc with TF2 so they are waiting...

edit: I've sent in numerous amont of emails that are very detailed on what i have to say about the multiplayer and i never get responses but i always do about something else i ask that has to do with HL2 or SDK...etc. I'd like to hear from a valve employee in this thread about what I/we have said about TF2 being the multiplayer or as to why they aren't talking about it at all....there is a reason for everything and they surely have one for that.

 

[riTuaL]

I don't think Valve would be so goddamn secretive with their MP if they didn't have something amazing in store for us. All we can do is wait, but I'm almost positive it will have something to do with the Resistance vs. Combine Soldiers. That would be awesome..

 

[wayne white]

its a mmo game.

 

[tokin]

It's simple. The Core multiplayer is either a DM/CTF/TDM (some other gameplay modes?) with basic HL2 characters with mp maps from SP, vehicles, objects, weapons...of course we have that. Then there is TF2 that will come with HL2 or not, only doubting this reason since they are also bringing TFC over to source, don't think they would ship TF2 with HL2 as the suprise if TFC is being brought to source around that time....too strange. I guess they are just being quiet about it because they dont want to be bugged and want HL2 released before TF2 is widely talked about...who knows though they might just suprise us with it...they should atleast..

 

[MindCrafter]

Well are they not selling multiplayer + singleplayer, and singleplayer only versions of the game. Who would pay that much extra for a simple deathmatch.

They kept HL2 secret until its announcement last year, so who knows what the MP is.

I am sure it will have ground/air/hoover vehicles, as any mp game that does not support that now is, imo, behind the times.

That's bull****. Vehicles would ruin HL2 for me.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

Well are they not selling multiplayer + singleplayer, and singleplayer only versions of the game. Who would pay that much extra for a simple deathmatch.

well technically your not just buying their MP, you are buying the ability to play mp mods too.

with the sp only edition I believe mods dont work (at least the mp ones)

 

[Agent.M]

Yeah I agree tokin like i have been saying all along vavle has been good at throwing us off and I strongly strongly still think that TF2 will have something to do with HL2 MP especially after the news that merc got for us... I mean comon look at the things they have said already and how they are handling info on TF2 plus gabe has already said that there finishing up both prodructs right now and after they release them they are going to take a long vacation makes to sense to have TF2 almost finshed just to release it later on....it may not be HL2 straight MP (which I think it possibly could be) but it will have something to do with HL2 MP....just like I have been saying September release date alll along...this is all strictly IMO or course!! :cheers:

 

[kaf11]

The HL2's MP will be simple Deathmatch using maps inspired by parts of the Singleplayer.
I am totally sure about that because everything else would be stupid... sorry

Also, there will never be vehicles in CS:S, Valve ment that ground and even
air vehicles are possible with their multiplayer code, thats all.

im with you on this. fighting as teams within cool game locations/contexts will be fun, and im sure valve is adding elements which will make it special. tf2 is going to be a standalone retail product, as confirmed by valve.

 

[tokin]

im with you on this. fighting as teams within cool game locations/contexts will be fun, and im sure valve is adding elements which will make it special. tf2 is going to be a standalone retail product, as confirmed by valve.

ok kaff, then explain as to why valve is making such strange comments about TF2 and all? I think the smartest way they can take is this: Shut down won, send out HL2 with the standard fun MP with whatever else, also suprising the community with TF2 included for free (with doing some sort of deal) and then sell dod:s, cs:s, tfc:s all through steam for what 20-30 bucks each? I really think they are going about it this way, but have a very different deals behind the product which will benefit and what not.

 

[Gunner]

Wasn't WON shut down a while ago?

 

[Shuzer]

Wasn't WON shut down a while ago?

I'm pretty sure WON is still up for HL.. could be wrong, though, haven't tried in awhile

 

[KagePrototype]

WON is still up; it will be shut down either when it dies out, or when Steam is universally useable.

 

[mzerok]

The HL2's MP will be simple Deathmatch using maps inspired by parts of the Singleplayer.
I am totally sure about that because everything else would be stupid... sorry

Also, there will never be vehicles in CS:S, Valve ment that ground and even
air vehicles are possible with their multiplayer code, thats all.

Damn, you know too much because you are a god? Is there any god out there? Do you think that it's possible to know something about a game when you are only a Sungod like Mustafa Geryisman? :cheers:

 

[Gunner]

So you mean to tell me there are still people without Steam? Valve needs to hire some sort of new age missionaries who could educate the masses about Steam.

 

[Alec_85]

People without Steam are people who hate Steam practically. Personally I can't see the good with WON. Steam is much easier to use imho.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

People without Steam are people who hate Steam practically. Personally I can't see the good with WON. Steam is much easier to use imho.

think these pple u are talking of formed their opinion of Steam early on when Valve were un-prepared and Steam was un-stable and had alot of issues.

so now unless these pple try Steam again.. they are stuck with WON.