Need to vent some steam...

[CrazyHarij]

again, youre throwing reasons why you're supposed to be the victim. ask them why. tell them why you want one. tell them again. tell your shrink. ask your social domestic hotline.

 

[Darkside55]

explain the importance of your own private space to your sister and your parents, ffs TALK to your parents.

ask your parents to buy you a lock, or save up for one yourself

when do you suggest he will be able to take responsibility and not sit around and wait for mommy to make everything better?

Contradictory. From "talk to your parents" to "take responsibility for yourself and don't wait for your parents" in only three pages.

And sometimes parents don't want to have locks for several reasons; monitoring their kids, no locks in the house rule--I once had a friend who, I shit you not, his parents had a rule where his doors stayed OPEN. I remember being over his house and his dad came in and declared that verbatim in a seriously forceful voice. Quite a wtf moment. Maybe they don't want to have to install a new lock, maybe lots of reasons. You don't know the whole situation either. You're automatically thinking he has some recourse and he just wants to be a victim at his own personal pity party, but you don't know that for sure.

You sound like you have a real chip on your shoulder, bro.

 

[V-Man339]

Why must you keep trying to make it look like I'm the bad guy here? Have you ever even had a little sibling? Seriously, you are in no position to judge who I am, where I am, what kind of person I am, whether I am the bad guy or not, and what kind of situation I am in. Obviusly* (maybe misspelled) you are biased in some way, and I am under the assumption that you have something against young teenage boys. I don't know who you are or what anyone like me has ever done to you, but know that I have done all I can to get out of the situation I have been in for so long. I am sorry that you wish to only criticize me as "acting like the innocent one" or whatever you call it, and hope you get over whatever grudge you have against me or others like me.
As for Darkside, thank you for providing your excellent argumentative skills in my assistance.

 

[CrazyHarij]

oh please. i said talk to his parents, not whine to them. youre using an example that's about as valid as santa claus.. of all the kids complaining about their parents, how many do you expect to be justified? people are ingrates at that age. they dont have a clue how many choices they have.

 

[V-Man339]

So your backing about half your arguments up with nothing but assumptions?

 

[CrazyHarij]

what else do i have than popular consensus of teens since the ****ing dawn of teen angst when you refuse to enlighten me. d-sides argument is a travesty, nothing personal. ive been the annoying sibling, ive had the annoying sibling, and i currently have a relative with your. exact. same. story. 14 yr old with an annoying little sister. give me a ****ing break.

 

[V-Man339]

However that gives you no right to just assume I'm in the same position he's in, and that's no reason to trash me like you have.

 

[CrazyHarij]

i'm not trashing you.

 

[Darkside55]

oh please. i said talk to his parents, not whine to them. youre using an example that's about as valid as santa claus.. of all the kids complaining about their parents, how many do you expect to be justified? people are ingrates at that age. they dont have a clue how many choices they have.

what else do i have than popular consensus of teens since the ****ing dawn of teen angst when you refuse to enlighten me. d-sides argument is a travesty, nothing personal. ive been the annoying sibling, ive had the annoying sibling, and i currently have a relative with your. exact. same. story. 14 yr old with an annoying little sister. give me a ****ing break.

My argument is a travesty, versus "you're an ingrate, you're an ingrate, go play CS, you have unimportant teenage issues, you're an ingrate, teens these days are brats and have lots of angst. P.S., you're an ingrate."

Ho-kay.

As stated previous: chip, shoulder, etc.

 

[V-Man339]

Would you say that all 90-year olds with an younger sister are the same?
If you wouldn't then you sure as hell wouldn't say that all 14-year olds with a younger sister are the same. It's and age group, you can't discriminate against it because everybody has been a 14 year old at some point and no two are the same, and you cannot judge my pedicament based on the assumption that I'm nearly the same as your relative, and that I'm a whiney teenager like the ones you see on tv and on the internet so often.

 

[delusional]

Have you tried ignoring her? Don't look at her, talk or do anything, stare at a wall. Do that for a couple days and maybe just maybe she'll get bored. Or just beat the crap out of her, I did it to my little sister, but she was taller than me then.

 

[lame-o]

You should hit her, but in a brotherly way. My brother did, and I didn't turn into those 21st century **** up children walking around shitting their brains out with their own stupidity. Seriously, did you know that there are now 9 year old sluts?

 

[Dog--]

I've read none of this thread except post 1, and in my experience you just have to make fun of her so bad, so much/fast that she can't even get a word in, that she starts crying and/or gets pissed and walks away.

Or.. Be just as annoying as her, start copying what she says, start calling her stupid (and nothing but). Resort to childishness, it often works very, very well.

 

[CrazyHarij]

dside: call it whatever you want mate, and keep on living in your dreamworld.

 

[Darkside55]

...

Being told I'm living in a dreamworld from someone who's only nineteen is laughable. You're not even an adult yet.

What dreamworld, anyway? How's anything I've said a "dreamworld?" So you can justify my calling you out on "How is he an ingrate?" by resorting to saying I live in a fantasy land with absolutely nothing to support that? Way to sidestep the issue and go off somewhere completely different.

You're just giving the poor guy shit for no reason. Seriously. You're hating on him and telling him he's trying to be a victim, he's an ungrateful child, and all these things...not bothering to really help him at all...and when someone calls you out on this, you say they're in a dreamworld? What?

And you yourself aren't even an adult. I'd laugh...if it weren't sad.

 

[V-Man339]

It sure as heck is better than a world where all the teenagers are the exact same and have all their problems being told that they're not important and that we're the bad guys.
I am not some emo.
I am not some goth.
I am not some jock.
I am not some heavy metal punk.
I am not some rapper who thinks sagging their pants is gangsta.
I never did anything to you and I probably agree with you about things such as the forms of media produced by those social groups suck, and that's why almost all teenagers are compared to them.
That however gives you no right to automatically assume I'm one of them and that my problems are of no importantce because I think I'm the worst person in the world.
As you can read on the thread title I'm just letting off some steam, and if you have a problem with that and me excersising my right of free speech where I can use it without being punished by some adult then take it out on your own damn kids.

 

[Vegeta897]

You don't have free speech on hl2.net

 

[V-Man339]

Well I sure as hell can't use it in America, so I'm sort of limited to using the internet. Give a kid a break.

 

[Vegeta897]

Well it's really not up to me.

 

[V-Man339]

Wasn't blaming it on you. Sorry if I offended you.

 

[French Ninja]

Follow this guy:

 

[V-Man339]

I've been to 4chan,
and on a side note I hate skittles.

 

[CrazyHarij]

dside: woopde****ingdo, big guy. no, really. i just got owned, since we all know age precedes any viable argument. i live alone, ive got a job, friends your age, would it matter that is. sorry to say but youre not special. youre the one going on ridiculous hopes that he would be any different than the majority of angsty teenagers. i cant even imagine your motives tbh, but whatever they are, cheers, youve won. thats what you wanted to hear, right?

 

[Avoidist]

I think you need to make your own vent thread. Fast.

 

[Qonfused]

i cant even imagine your motives tbh

And what are your motives for coming in here with a pissy-ass attitude? And don't give me this "I was trying to help" bullshit either. All you did was come in here and say "your problems aren't significant, piss off."

 

[DEATHMASTER]

No locks? Wtf, ok use a chair and lean it against the doorknob, it does work if you angle it right (make sure to test it)

 

[CrazyHarij]

anyway, you wanted my reasons for the whole ingrate calling parade: he communicates like a vegetable, hates his parents for reasons that he has yet to conclude, if he wants to prove his point. he complains about his little sister and his parents taking her side, and you protect him, which simply makes me think you have no idea what its like to raise a family like that. it can be hard work, and parents are ppl too. feel free to fill me in.

 

[B.Calhoun]

go in the bathroom and just cut your wrist, just a little though it will make u feel better.

 

[CrazyHarij]

qonf: making my point, trying to bring the guy some objectivity on his side. **** you too. in all honesty, what pissy attitude? we're talking about a ****ing 14 yr with attitude issues against his parents, i am pretty sure i have the right to express my opinion, be it pissy or not. cant be a fan
of everything, especially not ingrate. in actuality i dont take it as seriously as you seem to do.

 

[Nemesis6]

Go buy some drugs to numb the pain and listen to some Linkin Park to ease your angst.

But... these wouuunnds they willlllll not heeaaaal!

I was looking for someone to do the Linkin Park picture and crawling in my skin thing, you were just missing the picture and the lyrics!

For some actually relevant stuff: Dude, she's nine. Nine years old and you're taking it this seriously. Kids are like that. You just need to annoy her back. Though you should stop of getting that Jason mask and sneaking into her room with a knife. Or maybe that would indeed solve it. Ah yes, the possibilities.

 

[CrazyHarij]

anyway vman, like i said before, im not trashing you for the heck, you (and a few others) are taking me the wrong way, but ill try and boil it down. you suck, life's a bitch etc, but here's the good part; it's what you make it. pay respect to your folks, but demand your right to privacy, being a victim won't help you. got nothing against you personally. cheers

 

[Nemesis6]

Do talk to your parents about the lock. From there on, if your parents don't listen, you just need to find some way to annoy her back proportionately. You could be original and hide her things or something.

By the way, I'm interested in this one thing: Why exactly did you parents refuse the lock thing?

 

[Krynn72]

anyway vman, like i said before, im not trashing you for the heck...

ill try and boil it down. you suck, life's a bitch etc,

Wow, you're terrible at this game.

Seriously, not a single argument you've brought to the table in this thread has been backed by any sort of logic. Not that you brought many points to the table, since its mostly been undeserved insults. Never knew you were such a troll.

 

[Darkside55]

dside: woopde****ingdo, big guy. no, really. i just got owned, since we all know age precedes any viable argument. i live alone, ive got a job, friends your age, would it matter that is. sorry to say but youre not special. youre the one going on ridiculous hopes that he would be any different than the majority of angsty teenagers. i cant even imagine your motives tbh, but whatever they are, cheers, youve won. thats what you wanted to hear, right?

My motives were to actually try and offer up a solution rather than come into the thread automatically assuming the OP was being a disrespectful child. My motive was to come in and instead of lumping him in with the majority of teenagers, which he may or may not be in, I regardless tried to give him some practical advice to use in his situation rather than bash him for his inability to take care of his 'insignificant' problem himself. My intent was to actually help him rather than bash him.

You're not special either by the way. Oh my, you have friends my age?! REALLY?! I had friends my age when I was OP's age! You're out on your own at nineteen and hold a job? REALLY?! Guess what, you're in the majority, not the minority. My purpose wasn't to be ageist 'just because'--no, I just have a problem with people who themselves aren't even fresh off the legal adult wagon telling me that I somehow live in a dreamworld. I also have a problem with completely left-field statements, but maybe that's just me.

By all rights just because you have a job and are out on your own doesn't mean that you're somehow an expert on the real world. And just because you think you know how all teenagers act doesn't give you the right to bash him. Yes, teenagers have angst. Welcome to puberty. At least he's trying to do something about it; the last thing he needs is someone to come in and grief him about it. In all honesty I'm rather surprised you haven't been slapped with a trolling infraction because since post one you've deliberately baited the guy--who, by the way, has been nothing but polite in his responses to you. Yet you're still going to call him names and talk to him like he's a stereotype? Man you might be out on your own and think you're worldwise but you're definately not if that's your attitude.

anyway, you wanted my reasons for the whole ingrate calling parade: he communicates like a vegetable, hates his parents for reasons that he has yet to conclude, if he wants to prove his point. he complains about his little sister and his parents taking her side, and you protect him, which simply makes me think you have no idea what its like to raise a family like that. it can be hard work, and parents are ppl too. feel free to fill me in.

"He communicates like a vegetable." Good heavens. That is CERTAINLY a GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT reason for bashing anybody. What was wrong with his posts? A couple misspelled words? Not formatted correctly enough for you?

And he never said he hated his parents. He called his mom a bitch, I'll grant. He said his dad sides with his sister. But he never said he hated his parents, and guess what, if you're a teenager and you've never called your mom a bitch and said, "I hate my parents," whoops, you're a LIAR.

Make no mistake I'm not protecting him by saying, "Oh, you're so right in this situation, and your parents are giant douches." What'd I tell him, Harij? What'd I tell him? Just extricate yourself from the situation, isn't that what I said? I'm 'protecting' him from being lambasted over here by someone who obviously seems to have some issues. Seriously, why don't YOU enlighten me? Because you obviously seem to have some issues with parents, about hating this generation of angsty brats who get mad at their parents. Whoops, look like that's every generation in history. But seriously, what's YOUR deal?

...

You think I don't know about raising a family? You think I don't know what parents go through? Let me tell you something: I've suffered more hardships than you could ever imagine. I grew up very, very quickly. I don't say that to impress you--I could care less whether you feel impressed, or humbled, or 'owned.' But I've seen my own parents do incredibly humbling things to make ends meet. I've seen a single mother struggle to raise her family. I've seen the most selfless stepfather on the planet give up innumerable things to be with his child. I've lived out on the streets having sold our last worldly possessions just so they could put food in my mouth, so never--NEVER--assume that I don't know what it takes to raise a family. That I don't know what parents go through. Don't you ever assume. I know what parents are. I knew, growing up, that "parents are people too."

When you live on the street for years of your life--on the street for YEARS, watching your parents struggle--you can come tell ME about dreamworlds and what it is to be ungrateful. To know ungratefulness. Because I would know. And I haven't seen any of that in the OP's post. But somewhere, you do, and that makes me think the issue lies with you, not him.



And the last thing anyone ever needs when they want to vent their anger is someone coming in and thrashing them, which you did. Conciously or not, that's what you did.

 

[Dan]

haha, it's funny that you're all emotional and angsty

 

[Krynn72]

Holy shit, a pissed off darkside. The end is extremely ****ing nigh!

 

[Darkside55]

haha, it's funny that you're all emotional and angsty

Holy shit, a pissed off darkside. The end is extremely ****ing nigh!

I've got Linkin Park on continuous loop turned up to 11!!!

 

[GreenKata]

haha, it's funny that you're all emotional and angsty

You're just a monster with no concience.

 

[Gorndt]

You're just a monster with no concience.

Darkside - You're a monster that's not concise.

 

[CrazyHarij]

krynn: read between the lines.
dside: im writing on a cell phone, give me a second to reply.