new world order

CptStern · May 25, 2004

I found this a little scary:

Project for the New American Century

statement of principles said:
"The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership."

we need to strengthen our ties to democratic allies and to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values

we need to accept responsibility for America's unique role in preserving and extending an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles

America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests.

Some of the members of this group:

Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld
Jeb Bush
Paul Wolfowitz
Dan Quayle

it all sounds like a global domination maniphesto to me. The thing that troubles me the most is that the members have the power and influence to make this happen. What do you all think?
please refrain from flaming. This thread is about The Project for the New American Century and it's members it's not about bashing the US.

Shuzer · May 25, 2004

You left me out of the group, and my name should be in bold, italics, large print and red (just so you know I'm the leader!)

Anyhow, this sounds highly unlikely and extremely unplausable. It's a NPO, does it even have any ties to any of the said people? :| (Understand, the site was so blisteringly ugly that I couldn't stand to read but one sentence)

Neutrino · May 25, 2004

Where does it say those people are members of the group? I found one page where it listed there names, but does not give any information on the details of their affiliation. It just looks like any of another hundred NPO's that think they know how to solve everything.

CptStern · May 25, 2004

found an article about the group and it's members:

Vice President Dick Cheney is a founding member of PNAC, along with Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle.
Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz is the ideological father of the
group.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm

Neutrino · May 25, 2004

CptStern said:
found an article about the group and it's members:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm

I would prefer a less biased source really. I don't trust that site at all. It's not a news source at all. It's completely anti-US and anti-Bush propaganda.

CptStern · May 25, 2004

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

not that abc news isnt as biased

Neutrino · May 25, 2004

CptStern said:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/pnac_030310.html

not that abc news isnt as biased

Ok, thanks. I'll have to read more about it.

But I would hardly call ABC news as biased as that other site. I'm not saying they're completely objective, but that other site was basically just one big anit-US editorial.

CptStern · May 25, 2004

that was the first site I found

Letters · May 25, 2004

Danny Quayle... sounds familiar... isn't he that guy that can't say anything without ****ing it up somehow?

DarkStar · May 25, 2004

Letters said:
Danny Quayle... sounds familiar... isn't he that guy that can't say anything without ****ing it up somehow?

Holy shit that made me feel old. Yes, Dan Quayle used to be vice president under Bush Sr...lol.

=1nfiltrat0r= · May 25, 2004

itz about time the usa took over i mean we are the moral athority of the world and the most powerful by far. its our obligation to take control and lead the rest of the world. just look every problem in the world is cuz people go against the usa like the arabs. if the usa took over the world would be much better.

Letters · May 25, 2004

DarkStar said:
Holy shit that made me feel old. Yes, Dan Quayle used to be vice president under Bush Sr...lol.

Yeah, but I didn't know he was still around! :O

Maskirovka · May 25, 2004

=1nfiltrat0r= said:
itz about time the usa took over i mean we are the moral athority of the world and the most powerful by far. its our obligation to take control and lead the rest of the world. just look every problem in the world is cuz people go against the usa like the arabs. if the usa took over the world would be much better.

-Adolf Hitler (with Germany instead of USA)

Sulkdodds · May 25, 2004

if the usa took over the world would be much better.

No it wouldn't. A one-country rule is never a good idea because sooner or later it will go evil (it is a moot point that this has happened already). Plus, if the USA took over places that don't like it, there would be no peace there, just constant chaos and fighting from the anti-US groups. We in Europe can maintain our own peace, as can Asia and, admittedly to a lesser extent, the middle east. It is not your obligation or your right to take over any other country simply because you think it will be a better state of affairs. How arrogant must you be to declare that your country is the only real 'moral authority'? A country that used toxins and chemicals against innocents in Vietnam (not that they should have been there in the first place) using funds garnered from drug trafficking in nearby Laos, funded violent revolutions in a load of South American countries before installing brutal puppet dictators, and, in many people's view, a country that invaded Iraq without any proper reason thus angering the anti-American locals. USA, moral authority? Don't make me laugh.

Of course, it may have been a joke...still, if it's not then Infiltrator has made me laugh for all the wrong reasons.

Maybe the New American Century should ask everyone else if they want a new world order first. Obligation, indeed.

hokai · May 25, 2004

Shuzer said:
You left me out of the group, and my name should be in bold, italics, large print and red (just so you know I'm the leader!)

Anyhow, this sounds highly unlikely and extremely unplausable. It's a NPO, does it even have any ties to any of the said people? :| (Understand, the site was so blisteringly ugly that I couldn't stand to read but one sentence)

x2 lol it was real ugly

Pogrom · May 25, 2004

=1nfiltrat0r= said:
itz about time the usa took over i mean we are the moral athority of the world and the most powerful by far. its our obligation to take control and lead the rest of the world. just look every problem in the world is cuz people go against the usa like the arabs. if the usa took over the world would be much better.

Thanks. That was the funniest thing I've seen all day!

Ahem... moral authority?

lePobz · May 25, 2004

Just sounds like another illuminati group to me, them dodgy fellas are in high places, tugging at their strings making the world a better place...

*cough* nazis

The world should see them for who they are, and take actions to remove them from power, but people just don't. Grrrrr. Oh well, planets f*cked. Weeeeeeeeee.

Direwolf · May 25, 2004

Duh. It's the Illuminati AND the reverse vampires.

CptStern · May 25, 2004

Pobz said:
Just sounds like another illuminati group to me, them dodgy fellas are in high places, tugging at their strings making the world a better place...

*cough* nazis

The world should see them for who they are, and take actions to remove them from power, but people just don't. Grrrrr. Oh well, planets f*cked. Weeeeeeeeee.

heh they dont exactly hide their intent, that website is there for all to see. Unfortunately for them they had some unwanted public exposure when it came out that they had been planning the iraq invasion years before bush came to power.

Sprafa · May 25, 2004

Doesn't anyone knows about the Total Information System and the Echelon Program?
They are already in control. You just don't know about it

CptStern · May 25, 2004

http://www.echelonwatch.org/

Sprafa · May 25, 2004

http://www.geocities.com/totalinformationawareness/

CptStern · May 25, 2004

from your link it says there are some influential people concerned about the Total Information Awareness program including Al Gore. I wonder what this world would have been like if Al Gore was president

Sprafa · May 25, 2004

CptStern said:
from your link it says there are some influential people concerned about the Total Information Awareness program including Al Gore. I wonder what this world would have been like if Al Gore was president

worst.

It would've been worse if Gore was on control on 9/11, but now we aren't voting for the past, we're voting for the future, which seems to be the thing Bush supporters can't stand

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