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It's just as easy to rack up that many kills with any other gun. For those 2 matches it's pretty obvious you used the magnum a lot.
I'd play you, but I'm on 56k and lag is kind of an issue. Well anyway I'm going to a 500 people lan tommorow I'll see then if what you're saying is valid. I'll Pm anyone who wants results in two days. btw Pm me don't just reply to the thread.
I'd play you, but I'm on 56k and lag is kind of an issue. Well anyway I'm going to a 500 people lan tommorow I'll see then if what you're saying is valid. I'll Pm anyone who wants results in two days. btw Pm me don't just reply to the thread.
The Magnum is the following:
One Shot Kill
Instant bullet travel (VERY HELPFUL, especially when players are sprinting).
Perfectly accurate (no bullet cone).
Can't explode in your face and hurt you
Personally I think these make it too powerful. I dont get most of my kills with it because I dont pick it up often, but its definately the easiest to kill with for me.
I would personally make it slightly inaccurate (Bring back greater accuracy when crouching!) (stops Sniping with it) and make it 2 shot kill (bar headshot). The rate of fire is pretty quick so I don't think that would hinder it too much.
One Shot Kill
Instant bullet travel (VERY HELPFUL, especially when players are sprinting).
Perfectly accurate (no bullet cone).
Can't explode in your face and hurt you
Personally I think these make it too powerful. I dont get most of my kills with it because I dont pick it up often, but its definately the easiest to kill with for me.
I would personally make it slightly inaccurate (Bring back greater accuracy when crouching!) (stops Sniping with it) and make it 2 shot kill (bar headshot). The rate of fire is pretty quick so I don't think that would hinder it too much.
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none of you have obviously played the 1st DM game - Quake DM.
there was one gun and one gun only to use in that game - the RL and boy could i own with it
DMC ne1?
there was one gun and one gun only to use in that game - the RL and boy could i own with it
DMC ne1?
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Bongfarmer said:
Headshot.
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i think the pistol is betterthen the mp7, you can shoot pretty quick with it and the damage is resonable. ok the magnum is pretty powerfull i guess but it has alot recoil and it's still pretty hard to aim...but i dont think its damage has to be lowered, the others has to be raised. for example the mp7 is just so weak. i have to shoot for hours beforse someone is finally dead
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I've been playing op4 and hldm for several years, and fairly good at most dm games. You can talk to badger about me if you need to anyways, the game is fine, I've played about 20 mins since it was released, and I think the game is fine the way it is. Once I get beyond the phase of hitting people with bathroom utilities and parts I should be good to go
anyways, the game is fine, I've played about 20 mins since it was released, and I think the game is fine the way it is. Once I get beyond the phase of hitting people with bathroom utilities and parts I should be good to go HadouKen24
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Lowering the accuracy might be good, but it does take a modicum of skill to cap someone running around from all the way across Overwatch. I'd leave that as a "maybe."
The rate of fire isn't much faster than the rate of fire of most one-hit kill sniper guns in other games. It's also much too hard to get a shot in for a two-hit kill to be fast enough in a close-in circle strafe fight. Odds are that anyone but someone with serious skill is going to miss at least one shot. You aren't going to be able to get three shots off before someone with an SMG owns you in the head.
The magnum is basically a sniper rifle sans scope. Which is going to be a weakness with some of the maps that are going to come out. (And some that have already.)
Aim for the head, and they go down pretty quick.
What bothers me is the shotgun. I'll get three good solid close-in shots on the body sometimes, and then get taken down by the SMG to the head while I'm reloading. It should be that any really close-in double power shot should be a one-hit kill. As it is, you have to aim for the head.
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I do not see your scores as proof of anything. So you did well with the Magnum... and how does that make it a newb gun? I have had much better games than that (31-2, 45-7, 160-56, etc... someone started a thread about high scores, some of my scores are in there) w/o using the Magnum hardly at all. The fact I can "overcome" the newb cannon (sarcasm) indicates that it really is not a problem. I would prefer the Gravgun+Radiator or shotgun most of the time, or even the MP7 with grenades. The Magnum is nice, but 6 bullets+slow rof+very slow reload make it less than perfect by far.
There is no doubt you can do well w/ the Magnum if you can use it, but exactly the same thing can be said for the shottie, Gravgun+Radiator, Combine Rifle, etc... Like I said in my other post in this thread there are MANY good weapons, all with strengths and weaknesses. Magnum players are not unbeatable, and as a good player I would go as far to state that it is not even the best weapon. Yeah, I like it, but I like the other guns also.
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oh no! im gonna get schooled, run in horror..gunner is gonna school.
Is that supposed to be threatening or somthing? ive played the game quite a bit and i dont find it hard at all to counter the gun.
Im not the best but im defenently not the worst so dont get all cocky on us.
Its kinda funny that you think its a noob weapon but yet you post screens of winning while using it, im kinda interested on why you use it if you think its a noob weapon.
Is that supposed to be threatening or somthing? ive played the game quite a bit and i dont find it hard at all to counter the gun.
Im not the best but im defenently not the worst so dont get all cocky on us.
Its kinda funny that you think its a noob weapon but yet you post screens of winning while using it, im kinda interested on why you use it if you think its a noob weapon.
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In a twenty-kill game with four people, every single time I died was via magnum. The game ended nearly with a four-way tie, but that level of gun-hoarding just plain wrong.
They should either weaken the magnum, strengthen the other guns, or rename it from HL2 Deathmatch to Magnum + Some Physics Objects Deathmatch.
They should either weaken the magnum, strengthen the other guns, or rename it from HL2 Deathmatch to Magnum + Some Physics Objects Deathmatch.
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The magnum is fine. It's perfectly balanced. The shotgun on the other hand is waaaayyy tooo underpowered. I have shot all 6 shots (using the double shot mode) point blank in the chest to people and they end up killing me when i reload!?!? You can see the freaking wall behind them COVERED in blood. It's ridiculous, so now i never use it. The crossbow is freaking awesome. And the gravitygun+heater/radiator= absolute ownage. I have killed like 8-10 people in a row with a single heater/radiator.
TheCorps said:Lol
You know it's going to get nerfed, just like the awp got nerfed. You can count on it.
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the combine rifle is pretty good, but its easy to counter the alt fire "bowling ball of doom" so long as your a gravity gun whore like me just catch the thing as it flys towards you, and shoot it back at the sorry piece of meat who thought he had a sure kill
magnum is a bitch to hit someone who is moving fast unless u have a very steady hand. its not a luckers gun cos the bullets go exactly where you aim, random kills are not common with a mag. The noobest gun in the game is that bloody rocket launcher, esspecially in TDM. Its nigh on impossible to dodge cos of the bloody guided laser thing, and in maps like overwatch, you can never be sure where it came from because it hasnt neccesarily travelled in a staight line. if u can avoid the first shot u almost certainly get pwned by the second.
with teh G Gun though, more fun than owning someone with a toilet is using primary fire to knock a derelict car or dumpster into em its like soccer, he dribbles down the street, he shoots HE SCORES!
just catch the thing as it flys towards you, and shoot it back at the sorry piece of meat who thought he had a sure kill magnum is a bitch to hit someone who is moving fast unless u have a very steady hand. its not a luckers gun cos the bullets go exactly where you aim, random kills are not common with a mag. The noobest gun in the game is that bloody rocket launcher, esspecially in TDM. Its nigh on impossible to dodge cos of the bloody guided laser thing, and in maps like overwatch, you can never be sure where it came from because it hasnt neccesarily travelled in a staight line. if u can avoid the first shot u almost certainly get pwned by the second.
with teh G Gun though, more fun than owning someone with a toilet is using primary fire to knock a derelict car or dumpster into em
its like soccer, he dribbles down the street, he shoots HE SCORES!Nothing wrong with the Magnum IMO. As said, it's just HL2DMs version of the railgun, a staple of any decent deathmatch.
It's not without balance either. 1v1 against a .357 weilding skilled player will normally have him coming up trumps, but what about other situations? 3 people? It's likely that the other 2 players will take out Dirty Harry first to eliminate the threat or nab his weapon. Over 4 players circle strafing? The one who kept his SMG and nades is laughing his arse off whilst Mr 'I've got the most powerful handgun in the world' is fumbling around pushing rounds into his cylinder.
This is just before that ****ing **** blows everyone away with a well placed rocket. I wish i was him.....
It's not without balance either. 1v1 against a .357 weilding skilled player will normally have him coming up trumps, but what about other situations? 3 people? It's likely that the other 2 players will take out Dirty Harry first to eliminate the threat or nab his weapon. Over 4 players circle strafing? The one who kept his SMG and nades is laughing his arse off whilst Mr 'I've got the most powerful handgun in the world' is fumbling around pushing rounds into his cylinder.
This is just before that ****ing **** blows everyone away with a well placed rocket. I wish i was him.....
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Cons Himself said:
Wrong. Doom!
Anyway, I just love seeing a glimpse of someone carrying a barrel with him and putting a magnum bullet in it
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pardon me if i'm wrong, but isn't the point of DM to kill the other players and not just complain when somebody kills you with a certain weapon?
i bet all the people calling it the n00b gun don't wander past it without so much as picking it up, and it's not as if you can't see what weapon people are holding either.
if you don't want to be killed, don't play the game, and if you do get killed there's no point complaining about it.
i'll tell you what i think is more n00bish than the magnum, when you've got somebody camping out with the rocket launcher on lockdown, you've got a good a shot lined up and then somebody else starts firing at you and either gets you both killed by the rocket launcher guy, or kills you and then gets a rocket in the face.
i bet all the people calling it the n00b gun don't wander past it without so much as picking it up, and it's not as if you can't see what weapon people are holding either.
if you don't want to be killed, don't play the game, and if you do get killed there's no point complaining about it.
i'll tell you what i think is more n00bish than the magnum, when you've got somebody camping out with the rocket launcher on lockdown, you've got a good a shot lined up and then somebody else starts firing at you and either gets you both killed by the rocket launcher guy, or kills you and then gets a rocket in the face.
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Tantalus said:
Image that you are a 1337 guy, and you have the SMG. And then, an equally 1337 guy appears, but with the magnum. You shoot at him about 29 bullets, then he shoots you one in the foot and wins... are you a n00b?
Anyway, the problem is solved, peace people!
MigaS_tX said:Image that you are a 1337 guy, and you have the SMG. And then, an equally 1337 guy appears, but with the magnum. You shoot at him about 29 bullets, then he shoots you one in the foot and wins... are you a n00b?
Anyway, the problem is solved, peace people!
This thread isn't about the magnum being a 1337 weapon, it's about it being a n00b weapon...
Anyways, unless your shot is totally off, 29 shots will kill. (Assuming he has no armor).
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I think the magnum is like the railgun, as someone already pointed out. Once you get the hang of it, it's your best friend. And at least for me it did take a while to get the hang of it. And I still miss a lot. And I still can't use the railgun whenever I play some Q2 for old times' sake!
But I don't complain when someone pwns me with the magnum. I accept my faith and look up to them and wish to once reach the same level of pwnage with the magnum.
But I don't complain when someone pwns me with the magnum. I accept my faith and look up to them and wish to once reach the same level of pwnage with the magnum.
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Someone elsewhere pointed this out (I'll credit them when I remember.. I think it was Precizion)
The problem with making weapons that are easy for anyone to kill with is you have people who've been playing DM for years and years, and rarely miss targets, so once they have it they're gonna go on a rampage
The problem with making weapons that are easy for anyone to kill with is you have people who've been playing DM for years and years, and rarely miss targets, so once they have it they're gonna go on a rampage
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Geez, so now the "elite players" are forbidding people from using the Magnum unless they want to be called skill-less, dishonorable, noobish cowards? Come on, that concept of "noobish weapons" is simply idiotic. They are all weapons included in the game, thus, we should use it, and if we happen to have the powerful magnum, we shouldn't just change back to the Gravity Gun because "you're cooler and more skilled if you throw toilets at people". The magnum isnot a "noob weapon", it's just a powerful resource one should use for a few easy kills and a higher score....you gotta use what you got that is best at killing people, it's the objective of the game! ....okay, i got carried away. I don't think anyone was actually implying that, but I just felt like blowing some steam...
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Guys do you really expect after all this time there to be that many "n00bs", I'm sick to death of being called a "n00b" just because I have Dispraxia, and I'm therefore slow to react, I play for fun not to win. I am happy to say that over a year of Steam it was an ever-decreasing minority of this group of people, but now, especially with this Magnum business this could explode over again.
