Nv45 Pics. :)

[thenerdguy]

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Here's what we do know about NV45, it's currently running at a 450MHz core clock with 1.1GHz GDDR3 memory; this particular card uses Samsung chips. The 450MHz clock speed is a 12.5% increase in core clock speed over the GeForce 6800 Ultra, with memory speed remaining unchanged.


Hmmmmm sweet.

 

[Axyon]

450Mhz Core? That's still 70 behind the x800 XT. Pass.

 

[blahblahblah]

Glare at the card even more and you'll see that the card only has one power connector and it's not a standard power connector at that. The new NV45 connector is a 3 x 2 power connector, definitely not one we've seen on any other component before.

I know a fair amount about hardware, but what in the world is a 3 x 2 power connector?

 

[ailevation]

Can't wait until PCI Express OMG!

 

[ankalar]

450Mhz Core? That's still 70 behind the x800 XT. Pass.

Athlon FX-53...2.4 GHz? That's still 1000 MHz behind the P4 3.4 GHz. Pass.

 

[Axyon]

Athlon FX-53...2.4 GHz? That's still 1000 MHz behind the P4 3.4 GHz. Pass.

Way to bring a completely irrelevant subject into it. Since the 6800/50U and the x800 XT have the same number of pipelines, it's all about the core and memory speeds. While FX-53 may be 2.4Ghz, it's made and programmed in a way that allows it to compete with the 3.4 Ghz, but anything like that doesn't apply to this situation.

PCI Express doesn't even factor into it since it's a completely useless technology at the moment, we haven't even reached the maximum capacity of data transfer on AGPx8 yet, so why bloody move on now?

 

[Lone_Bullet]

Way to bring a completely irrelevant subject into it. Since the 6800/50U and the x800 XT have the same number of pipelines, it's all about the core and memory speeds. While FX-53 may be 2.4Ghz, it's made and programmed in a way that allows it to compete with the 3.4 Ghz, but anything like that doesn't apply to this situation.

PCI Express doesn't even factor into it since it's a completely useless technology at the moment, we haven't even reached the maximum capacity of data transfer on AGPx8 yet, so why bloody move on now?

Why not buy yourself ,instead of a last-generation P4 ,a first generation P4 1.2 GHz and OC it with a liquid oxigen cooling to a , let us say 5 GHz? --> because most of the time new technology is better technology
btw PRO AMD Athlon 64 and PRO nVidia hardcorefan...allthough i must admit nVidia is gettin' lil' weak last time....lest put our hope on the GeForce 7 series? (i think - hope) supporting the Direct X 10 :smoking:

 

[Axyon]

Why not buy yourself ,instead of a last-generation P4 ,a first generation P4 1.2 GHz and OC it with a liquid oxigen cooling to a , let us say 5 GHz? --> because most of the time new technology is better technology

You not hear what I just said? Yes, it's new technology, but at the moment it's redundant. Useless. No good. When we start exceeding the data bandwidth transfer of AGPx8 on graphics cards is when PCI Express will come into use, but not yet.

 

[Maxi]

Currently the only advantage with PCI-X is getting rid of the stupid PCI buffer thingy, and that it can supply more power then AGP, so no more molexs for awhile \o/

 

[umop]

Cool news, thanks for posting. I'm still waiting for a 6800U or X800XT to hit the shelves, I'll buy whichever is available first

 

[SubKamran]

Ewww umop, buy the damn ATi card for cripe's sakes...be a little intelligent

 

[Johan_Tayn]

really. It's not like you're willing to give up speed for a couple of days(even a week or two), right?

 

[Asus]

The connector almost looks like a floppy connector similar to what they used on the first 9700pro.

 

[psyno]

• Clock speeds would only be a directly comparable if the cores were identical. They're not.
  
• PCI-X != PCIe.
  
• The true advantage of PCIe is not in the increased bandwidth for PEG, or in the amount of power it can supply! These things alone would hardly convince anyway it was worth switching.
  
• nVidia has not disappointed with the GeForce6 series! You guys are nuts if you think so! The thing is seriously fast!

Ok, now about the actual topic:

3x2? Never heard of it either. Well, we know that at least 2 are grounds. Do you think maybe that whatever connects to it still connects to two molex connectors, and that the other four are 2 x +-5v?

What are the contacts on the top of the card? Is nVidia consolidating the traditional feature connector to save PCB space and then offering a daughterboard, or something of the sort? I counted the contacts and there are 2x13, which of course is identical to the traditional feature connector. Why is this important now?

 

[x84D80Yx]

450Mhz Core? That's still 70 behind the x800 XT. Pass.

umm.... its not all about the core
the 6800ultra has a smaller core and still keeps up in alot of game.
look at the fx series, they had much higher cores than the 9XXX's but look what happened.

its kinda like the clocks on the amd and intel cards. you cant really compare them by mhz/ghz, but its like a 3400+ is around the same as a 3.4C give or take.

id say a 50mhz core jump on a nvidia 68XX series card would even up the results. anyways i guess im just talking out of my ass again

 

[torso boy]

one of my problems with the 6800u is that i would have to buy a friggin 600w psu.....a X800 would run perfectly off of my current rig

 

[blahblahblah]

one of my problems with the 6800u is that i would have to buy a friggin 600w psu.....a X800 would run perfectly off of my current rig

They changed the power requirements for the 6800U. Its now a quality 350W PSU.

 

[ewilson248]

isnt one of the major advantages of the new bus technology is that the bus has high width in BOTH directions,, rather than AGP whcih has high BW in one direction only??

i saw an interview on techTV with a guy on the team that dev the new std..

 

[psyno]

Correct, ewilson248. Bandwidth in both directions, unaffected by traffic going the other way. Also, PCIe devices do not share bandwidth between each other at all but rather have a direct link to the controller. What does this mean? Probably that a PCIe x1 graphics card would perform comparably to an AGP xWhateverBigNumberYouHave version of the same card.

What really interests me is that Anandtech seems to think that this is a native PCIe GPU.

 

[blackeye]

if its a 12.5% clock increase over the 6800 that should be a lot of performance shouldnt it? considering that the 6800 was very close to the x800 xt in frames per second. Then this clock boost should put it ahead of the x800 xt shouldnt it? And what is a dual-DVI PCI Express X800 card?

 

[psyno]

Best case, the increase has a linear association with clock speed, however scaling the clock often results in diminishing returns. It's simply too hard to speculate; we'll need to see some benchies.

 

[jonbob]

An X800 using a PCI Express slot and offering two DVI connectors (In case you're wondering, this is a Good Thing)

 

[blackeye]

Does DVI support HDTV?

 

[x84D80Yx]

one of my problems with the 6800u is that i would have to buy a friggin 600w psu.....a X800 would run perfectly off of my current rig

where the **** do people get their facts these days?

 

[Alig]

where the **** do people get their facts these days?

They believe the first person to say something they dont want to hear. Regardless of what anyone else says, official or not.

 

[[Matt]]

450Mhz Core? That's still 70 behind the x800 XT. Pass.

Clock for clock the nvidia 6800 is faster. underclock the X800 XT and the 6800 will beat the crap out of it. However ATI just use intels tactic of clocking as fast as they can go to beat the opposition.

 

[[Matt]]

hmmm... after reading that im suprised to see that the NV45 seems to be a bridgeless PCIe solution as all the previous rumours had pointed towards all nvidia's PCIe cards using a bridge chip.

 

[Asus]

Clock for clock the nvidia 6800 is faster. underclock the X800 XT and the 6800 will beat the crap out of it. However ATI just use intels tactic of clocking as fast as they can go to beat the opposition.

Really?
Link
Here is a review where the 6800 Ultra was OCed to 450MHz so both cards ran the same speed.

I don't see any of that happing here except the highend DX9 games ATI won over Nvidia on and the OpenGL games Nvidia won over ATI on.
In a lot of the games, the 6800 Ultra doesn't gain a whole lot from the OC at all.

 

[[Matt]]

FYI the X800XT runs at a default clock core of 525...

 

[Asus]

FYI the X800XT runs at a default clock core of 525...

Yeah, I didn't see if they said they OCed the X800XT in the review or not.