NVIDIA designated the "official" card of Doom 3.

[Top Secret]

There aren't any D3 screens that shows outdoor environments except this one:
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com...&i=29585,00.jpg
Which indicates that engine can render outdoor environments, but may not as huge as far cry environments.

Also, in the Doom 3 trailer, there is that small section with the tram moving out-doors.

 

[crabcakes66]

No its like my 5900 ultra at 1600x1200 with AA and AF at 8X getting around 450 fps and my friends 9800pro with the same settings and only getting 180 fps and very crappy image quailty and no lighting and no shadow and no water effects at all.

Ill bring it up every time. Nvidia is better in linux. OpenGl works better with Nvidia. Its that simple.

....not quite ..but you sound like a fanboy so no arguments from me.

 

[jonbob]

....not quite ..but you sound like a fanboy so no arguments from me.

He's sort of right you know. Up to now nvidia have always provided better linux support. I don't own an FX so I can't support his other claim, but OpenGL performance was never a problem with my old GF4 card.

 

[thenerdguy]

....not quite ..but you sound like a fanboy so no arguments from me.

Havnt you figured it out yet? Ive told you all about a million times that im a justified fanboy of nvidia. Naimly because of the better opengl support. If ati would get better at open gl then i would like them more but they seem to like the directx crap.

 

[dawdler]

Havnt you figured it out yet? Ive told you all about a million times that im a justified fanboy of nvidia. Naimly because of the better opengl support. If ati would get better at open gl then i would like them more but they seem to like the directx crap.

How about actually reading what I said earlier? ATI is within +-10 (yes, both under AND over) FPS in any OpenGL game if you count *playable* settings (for example 12x9 at 4xAA/8xAF). Just check any review.

I cant find it now, but the really fun thing is that ATI is tested to be 2 TIMES faster in UT2K3 OpenGL

Besides I dont like to compare cards like that anyway. I like to see low, average and max fps. ATI can often pull twice the FX low FPS in games, even if average ends up fairly equal.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

Havnt you figured it out yet? Ive told you all about a million times that im a justified fanboy of nvidia. Naimly because of the better opengl support. If ati would get better at open gl then i would like them more but they seem to like the directx crap.

thats what I used to think before I got my radeon, hehe I remember thinking, Lols lols ATI = DX and all my fave games = opengl, therefore ATI = teh lose.

however after informing myself, (reading reviews, tech specs, fps comparisons, and trying the card out, as well as Nvidias fx 5800ultra) I found that the ATI card was everything I could hope for and more.

you just have to try one to understand it's power, I hate my bro's fx5200, and I sold my 5800fx Ultra. ATI has not let me down once since my purchase.

 

[A2597]

farcry and doom3 looks almost identical IMHO. both look very good.

I want more HL2 screenies though...

 

[thenerdguy]

UMmmm your still not understanding me. PURE OPENGL! Linux, baby. Ut2003/4 in windows isnt pure opnegl, it still uses dx. In linux there is no directx.

 

[dawdler]

UMmmm your still not understanding me. PURE OPENGL! Linux, baby. Ut2003/4 in windows isnt pure opnegl, it still uses dx. In linux there is no directx.

Well if you got Savage, benchmark that in a certain spot (include picture) with some varius settings (ie 10x7 without AA/AF, with, max/low settings/whatever) and we could always test it. Its available both as linux and windows version, using OpenGL. Dont think Savage has ever been benchmarked, so I dont know what the differences are.

And of course its pure OpenGL, its hard to render in OpenGL mode if you dont use pure OpenGL (would be impressive to see a hybrid DX9/OpenGL renderer). The other DX code wouldnt affect framerate. This is not counting a sucky OpenGL driver path though.

 

[crabcakes66]

Havnt you figured it out yet? Ive told you all about a million times that im a justified fanboy of nvidia. Naimly because of the better opengl support. If ati would get better at open gl then i would like them more but they seem to like the directx crap.

Im not big on linux/mac so opengl is secondary to me, since most of what I play is DX running on my almighty windows box. :naughty:

But seriously the gap is nowhere near that much. IQ is a moot point with q3 so i doubt there is anything aproaching a noticable differance.

Like i said. Who care if your pushing 4000fps with max setting or 5000 fps with max settings? :dozey: