Of Hitting the Gym..

[soulslicer]

How many of you people go to the gym to work out?

Well, I've been hitting the gym recently because I realized it was time to improve my pathetic and thin build. So I've gained about 5kg after working out and I can do about 18 pull-ups, not to mention unlimited push-ups. And overall, going to the gym has been great. Except for the fact that apart from becoming stronger, my overall build has remained pretty much the same but I have become more "defined" nevertheless. It really does suck to be born small but I can't help it, so going to the gym seemed to be pretty much the only option to me, and I really want to avoid intense protein products because they can **** you up.

So how many of you hit the gym as well? I'd have to say it's the best form of exercise ever, because you get to do it in a controlled air-con environment with a trainer to help you occasionally. I usually do free weights and the machines. Not to mention, that it does boost your self-confidence a bit. I'm hell of a glad that the gym I go to has hardly any people going at all. Sometimes, you see those gym nut ******s everywhere and it can really scare the hell out of you when you are lifting a pathetic 10kg, and they are doing bench-presses. That's one of the reasons why a few of my friends avoid hitting the gym. You can injure yourself badly there if you do the wrong things.

I really hope to gain some more mass though, I'm only 60kg right now and I have been trying to eat shitloads of protein food like lots of meat and nuts, but I haven't seen any difference.

Your thoughts?

 

[bam23]

short recoil.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Stop doing pushups and start doing bench press. Stop doing pull ups and start doing deadlifts and squats. Increase the weight early and often. Then you'll grow.

 

[Zephos]

I need to do this rather soon.

Considering I may be applying for the army :/

 

[ktimekiller]

I do. I usually start with a nice sprint, or long jog, depending on what I feel like. If its a jog, I do a long jog without stopping, then thats it for cardio, but if im doing sprint, I do it in short sessions. After the cardio, or inbetween if im sprinting, I lift and exercise all different parts of my body, i change daily, for example, biceps one day, then the next day, I will do triceps. If i havent exercised in more than 2 days, Ill do both.

 

[soulslicer]

Stop doing pushups and start doing bench press. Stop doing pull ups and start doing deadlifts and squats. Increase the weight early and often. Then you'll grow.

I do free weights and the machines.


I have compulsory army enlistment for two years btw, Singapore sux.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

...anyway;
"Whenever I feel the need to exercise I lie down and let it pass"- Oscar Wilde

 

[PvtRyan]

Yeah, do bench presses, but you need a friend to come with you to help you if you can't manage the last rep. Otherwise you'll drop it on yourself

I believe they say that you only need three exercises to work out your entire body: bench press, deadlift and leg squats. I don't do squats and deadlifts though, just bench press, machines and some free weights.

 

[soulslicer]

Yeah, do bench presses, but you need a friend to come with you to help you if you can't manage the last rep. Otherwise you'll drop it on yourself

I believe they say that you only need three exercises to work out your entire body: bench press, deadlift and leg squats. I don't do squats and deadlifts though, just bench press, machines and some free weights.

Wow....

I have a long way to go. And your sig matched your post perfectly

 

[PvtRyan]

Wow....

I have a long way to go. And your sig matched your post perfectly

Did I give you the impression I was a bodybuilder or something? Haha, far from it

 

[Kula Meenur]

Stop doing pushups and start doing bench press. Stop doing pull ups and start doing deadlifts and squats. Increase the weight early and often. Then you'll grow.

That's ****ing useless if he accelerates his build ratio too rapidly he will go through hypertrophy which is again both stupid and useless as you'll only have definition but no strength. Plus, if he does it wrong (and he sounds like a first timer) then you could create some very painful and pointless injuries which would affect him in later life... ie: weakened ligaments, an increase in risk of muscle tear, and joint weakening.

Oh yeah, starting with nuts n shit wont do jack, you need to change your diet and your build and work regiem at a progressive rate (eat and drink protein (ie:milkshakes with 2 eggs as often as you can). Also, it helps if you change your diet before you start working out, don't take any ****ing formula it'll ruin your life, do it all naturale with as much protein as you can shovel in reasonably .

If you want to build and define good solid strong muscles at the fastest rate, then up your work ratio about 5-8kg every four to six weeks. That's pretty hard-core in itself. Don't aim for four weeks until you have some time under your belt. Anywhoooo, work on that regiem for that allotted time and then change when you feel your reps are becoming too numerous in your sets. Its a good tell to use. But basically work it out over time, and you'll see what the best schedule is to suit your body.

As well as having a balanced diet and work out ratio, go for runs or push bike rides to improve your cardio and you'll see you're stamina improve, not only in the gym but also in the bedroom

My credentials? I've been working out for three years solid with a personal gym. I weigh in at 213lb (lost 7lb and cant find it lol lol). My w-o regiem takes about an hour and a half excluding warmups and some calisthenics (plus additional running and cycling). i feel fit, i eat well and obvioulsy, i'm really ****ing proud of it!

I do. I usually start with a nice sprint, or long jog, depending on what I feel like. If its a jog, I do a long jog without stopping, then thats it for cardio, but if im doing sprint, I do it in short sessions. After the cardio, or inbetween if im sprinting, I lift and exercise all different parts of my body, i change daily, for example, biceps one day, then the next day, I will do triceps. If i havent exercised in more than 2 days, Ill do both.

That's prolly the best way to tackle it mate





oh yeah, protip: There's about three types of workout


Definition:
Reps: 12-20
Sets: 1 - 3
Rest: 30-60secs

Using a light to moderate weight, it stimulates a high cardio rate and helps burn excess fatty tissue and adds definition to the muscles.




Hypertrophy (reeeeaaaallly not recommended):
Reps: 6-12
Sets: 2-6
Rest - 1-1.5mins

This method is used by body builders so i wouldn't encourage anybody to do it, let alone a first timer. Hypertrophy is designed to shock the muscles to stimulate a rapid increase in size, using a heavy weight. The method has strenght issues and should only be used by professionals. Also, if you don't keep up the work-out regiem, then be prepared to convert all that definition into fat at a much faster rate than that of a definition workout or a strenght workout. A mate of mine (a personal trainer with the WA police) once said that it impresses the chicks at the bar, but lets them down in the bedroom.



Strength:
Reps: 2-5
Sets: 4-6
Rest: 3-4mins

The purpose of this method is to build muscle strenth. Normally a very heavy weight is used (which is why rest is increased to 3-4mins), and this workout should only be kept with the addition of a very healthy and protein rich diet. Good for everything; cardio, work, socialising, you look great like a big ****ing kiwi.


Feeling fit is a great feeling to have the confidence to tackle anything. Stick with it and pm me any problems or issues you have and i'll put you into email contact with my mate if you wish or need. I <3 you slicer so hop to it lol!

 

[Azner]

How many of you people go to the gym to work out?

Well, I've been hitting the gym recently because I realized it was time to improve my pathetic and thin build. So I've gained about 5kg after working out and I can do about 18 pull-ups, not to mention unlimited push-ups. And overall, going to the gym has been great. Except for the fact that apart from becoming stronger, my overall build has remained pretty much the same but I have become more "defined" nevertheless. It really does suck to be born small but I can't help it, so going to the gym seemed to be pretty much the only option to me, and I really want to avoid intense protein products because they can **** you up.

So how many of you hit the gym as well? I'd have to say it's the best form of exercise ever, because you get to do it in a controlled air-con environment with a trainer to help you occasionally. I usually do free weights and the machines. Not to mention, that it does boost your self-confidence a bit. I'm hell of a glad that the gym I go to has hardly any people going at all. Sometimes, you see those gym nut ******s everywhere and it can really scare the hell out of you when you are lifting a pathetic 10kg, and they are doing bench-presses. That's one of the reasons why a few of my friends avoid hitting the gym. You can injure yourself badly there if you do the wrong things.

I really hope to gain some more mass though, I'm only 60kg right now and I have been trying to eat shitloads of protein food like lots of meat and nuts, but I haven't seen any difference.

Your thoughts?

National Service Hoohah.

How many more years mate? And heck the gymnuts

 

[Solaris]

I go 3 times a week, just use the machines.

 

[PvtRyan]

Koola, I do 4 sets of 8 reps, adjusting the weight to where the seventh or eighth rep costs me a lot of effort, where would that fall? Either way, working fine for me, gaining quite a bit of strength.

And I don't see what's wrong with eating a lot of nuts/peanuts. They generally consist of 25% protein, much more than eggs contain.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Hypertrophy (reeeeaaaallly not recommended):
Reps: 6-12
Sets: 2-6
Rest - 1-1.5mins

This method is used by body builders so i wouldn't encourage anybody to do it, let alone a first timer. Hypertrophy is designed to shock the muscles to stimulate a rapid increase in size, using a heavy weight. The method has strenght issues and should only be used by professionals. Also, if you don't keep up the work-out regiem, then be prepared to convert all that definition into fat at a much faster rate than that of a definition workout or a strenght workout. A mate of mine (a personal trainer with the WA police) once said that it impresses the chicks at the bar, but lets them down in the bedroom.

Interesting you should say not recommended. I basically started this after about 6 months of lifting and have gained what basically amounts to about 50 lbs of muscle since.

My credentials (I know this is the internet, but w/e): started at 6'5" 150+-5 lbs, am currently 6'5" 195 +-5 lbs. Been working out two years, only working out seriously for a year and a half.

There's alot of bad advice out there, seek professionals, not helplife2.net. I found some good ones that have shown me alot of stuff, and alot of it flies in the face of common misconceptions that are held by the majority of the bodybuilding community but are physically detrimental.

 

[FishBulb]

http://spikedhumor.com/articles/116808/Gym-Accident-Gone-HORRIBLY-Wrong.html

That's why if I were ever to start exercising, I'd just go running in a park or something.

 

[Baal]

Are you sure your build hasn't changed? You'd be surprised the changes that can happen even if you don't notice them.

http://users.eastlink.ca/~garrymullins/sevenMonths.jpg

This is me after seven months. Some of you may not see the difference, but I certainly do. I decided to take a "before" picture when I started going to the gym, and I was like you...I didn't think it was doing all that much, especially as far as build goes, but after looking at my before picture...it really has, and I've been doing multiple things wrong. I'm expecting my progress to increase over the next 6 months.

Oh, and my arms aren't quite as small as they look in either picture...my arms have grown even more than the rest of me, I'd say. I wish I had of taken a side angle "before" shot

I've only gained about 10 or 15 pounds, going from around 150 to 165, but I'm still reasonably happy with the results so far. Do you have a before picture? Again, you may have changed more than you think.

Here's my spreadsheet I use at the gym. It helps me a lot for various reasons I don't feel like getting into:

http://users.eastlink.ca/~garrymullins/workoutyarr.JPG

 

[Slug Advisor]

Hitting the gym? Why, that's no thing to do for a nerd such as myself.

 

[Asuka]

Stop doing pushups and start doing bench press. Stop doing pull ups and start doing deadlifts and squats. Increase the weight early and often. Then you'll grow.

That is the dumbest shit iv read all day. You dont know what your talking about.

This is what i started with http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2583363&postcount=25

I'm at a 2 week stop due to being sick. Don't be afraid to take it slow. From the time that i started to now i feel and see results.

 

[Baal]

That is the dumbest shit iv read all day. You dont know what your talking about.

This is what i started with http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2583363&postcount=25

I'm at a 2 week stop due to being sick. Don't be afraid to take it slow. From the time that i started to now i feel and see results.

It's just a different approach...that's all. I don't quite see why he is wrong about his approach. You do have to be careful about what and how you're lifting when you first begin, but increasing weight regularly is definitely a good idea, or else your muscles won't grow.

 

[MiccyNarc]

That is the dumbest shit iv read all day. You dont know what your talking about.

I beg to differ. Doing pushups and pull ups will get you toned, no more. I've studied this stuff since I started doing it two years ago and have talked to numerous personal trainers. The way to grow is to lift heavy ass weight early and often. Just don't be an idiot and injure yourself. And don't be so quick to correct people either.

And chill with the insults, they aren't necessary. I could call you out on the fact that you go to men's health for tips on working out, when it's a laughable source at best, but I'll refrain.

 

[FoxDie]

I beg to differ. Doing pushups and pull ups will get you toned, no more. I've studied this stuff since I started doing it two years ago and have talked to numerous personal trainers. The way to grow is to lift heavy ass weight early and often. Just don't be an idiot and injure yourself. And don't be so quick to correct people either.

And chill with the insults, they aren't necessary. I could call you out on the fact that you go to men's health for tips on working out, when it's a laughable source at best, but I'll refrain.

This. You sure sound cocky for someone who has no idea what they're talking about Asuka.

Pushups and pullups will definitely give you some strength and size increases, but I wouldn't rely on them. You'll benefit much more from bench press, squats, and deads as a base. Make sure you know how to perform the different exercises correctly, start with weight you can handle, and try to add small amounts of weight weekly.

I'd recommend this progression:
Weeks 1-4: Do 3-4 exercises (9-12 sets total) per major body part of 12, 10, 8, and then 6 reps. Do around 2 exercises (6 reps or so) for supporting muscles (Biceps, Triceps.)
Weeks 5-8: Same as above, but do 3-4 sets of 8 for each exercise.
Weeks 9-12: Same as before, but do 3-4 sets of 5 for each exercise.

You can either rotate through these as shown above, or do alternating cycles (i.e. Do 8 week bouts of lifting starting with either 12,10,8,6 or 4x8 for 4 weeks, but always end with sets of 5 for 4 weeks.)

Good Split:
Monday: Chest/Tri
Tues: Back/Bi
Wed: Off
Thurs: Shoulders
Fri: Legs

You can combine legs and shoulders if you just want to work out 3 days a week.

Take a week off every 8 weeks or so, eat a ton of food (actually calculate your intake on http://www.fitday.com so you can see if you are in the right ballpark.) Calculate your base metabolic rate (BMR, you should be able to find a calulator online) and add 500 calories to that number to find "bulking" calories.

EDIT: If you post your height/weight I can calculate your BMR for you, some of the online calculators are incorrect.

 

[Baal]

On a related note, I am sore as hell.

Chest day destroys me. I'll be sore for three days after yesterday

edit: ^^ I agree with both of the above posters

edit2: What I do when I'm trying to learn new exercises, or just improve form in general, is look the exercise up on YouTube and download the video to my iPod and watch it in the gym while I'm trying the lift. I guess YouTube isn't usually the greatest source, but there's a good deadlift video on there that looks very reputable.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pjBI9qxibTc

 

[VirusType2]

There might be something to what Kola was saying. I started lifting when I was 15, and I'm over 30 now.

Everything was OK when I was doing sets of 10, but I wanted to gain muscle faster.
When I was about 20 I met a guy who did the hypertrophy thing, and he was getting really strong.

So I've been doing what Kola calls "hypertrophy" (never heard it called that until now though) for the entire time and I'm shot to hell.

I've been doing sets of 6 or 7 for like 20 years.

Everything is broken on me. Left AC , tendinitis left/right rotator cuff, bad knees.

Wrist damage from heavy bag. Maybe not a safe bet for your aerobic exercise, but running can injure your knees...

And I'm back where I started, since I can't work out anymore.

I'm going back to pull ups and push ups when my rotators (shoulders) are healed up.

working out is not guaranteed to improve you. Sometimes it just wears you out and breaks you.

You think it won't happen to you. Just be careful.

Warm up before you lift !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will help keep you from injury but you can still be injured.

To warm up you keep the muscle/s stretched for a total time of 30 seconds according to my physical therapist. You can do it in as many rests as you want.

A little aerobic activity doesn't hurt to warm up as well. Too much and you burn calories though.

 

[Kula Meenur]

Koola, I do 4 sets of 8 reps, adjusting the weight to where the seventh or eighth rep costs me a lot of effort, where would that fall? Either way, working fine for me, gaining quite a bit of strength.

And I don't see what's wrong with eating a lot of nuts/peanuts. They generally consist of 25% protein, much more than eggs contain.

That would depend on the weight of your weight laugh. Sounds like a hypertrophic w-o from your rep and set rate, but it would come down to the geaviness of your weight, if you would be overexerting yourself with a very heavy weight, or if you would be in your correct w-o set regiem with a normal heavy weight with a hypertrophy regieum.

Also, generally as a rule i would never change the weight in the middle of a w-o, this leads to an uneven set and even worse it leads to muscle strain which could mean tearing or ligament damage even in the short run. Try to keep your weight that you're lifting as centralised as possible and only change the weight when you think that you're ready or at the end of a five-week (average weight gain time frame) w-o stretch. But basically, don't **** with the weight of your weights in the middle of a set, it leads to bad doo-doos.

Also, on nuts, there is absolutely nothing wrong with eating nuts, they are about as important as fruit in a diet. But i wouldn't just focus soley on eating nuts to get my protien. I would go for fish, n steak n pig (i try to avoid chicken as often as poss lol) and eggs as often as you can cram it down down your gullet :thumbs:

but you're right, there's certainly nothing wrong with nuts

the more you eat em the better

Interesting you should say not recommended. I basically started this after about 6 months of lifting and have gained what basically amounts to about 50 lbs of muscle since.

My credentials (I know this is the internet, but w/e): started at 6'5" 150+-5 lbs, am currently 6'5" 195 +-5 lbs. Been working out two years, only working out seriously for a year and a half.

There's alot of bad advice out there, seek professionals, not helplife2.net. I found some good ones that have shown me alot of stuff, and alot of it flies in the face of common misconceptions that are held by the majority of the bodybuilding community but are physically detrimental.

First and foremost i'm not gonna tell you how to workout, it's your life and you're entilted to your own opinion.

And yes it is interesting, i really do not recommend it [hypertrophy] as a regiem. It leads to all kinds of muscle, joint and ligament and tendon damage and all for a shitty effect and no kind of benefit, only to look half good. Most people starting on the regiem dont even stick to it, however that could also be attributed to outside factors as well.

I don't ever believe that somebody working out for the first time should ever consider starting off with this regiem. The problems associated with this are too great. A cardio/definition workout however would be more appropriate for this.
Maybe somebody with time under his/her belt however, like say 12-18 months of professionally observed training and consultance. Personally i wouldn't even do this regiem even if i was paid a swag load of money for it, the problems that go with the training both whilst the wo is being exercised and after it's ceased are huge.



Shit, just look at the evidence from Type2 the poor bugger

It's just a different approach...that's all. I don't quite see why he is wrong about his approach. You do have to be careful about what and how you're lifting when you first begin, but increasing weight regularly is definitely a good idea, or else your muscles won't grow.

I won't stress the point but you're statement is entirely untrue. What utter ****ing bullshit!

It's just a different approach...that's all

True.

You do have to be careful about what and how you're lifting when you first begin

Also true.

..but increasing weight regularly is definitely a good idea, or else your muscles won't grow.

Entirely ****ing false. If you're working out, you could even decrease the weight you're lifting after a 4-6 week period and you'll still build muscle. Just not at the same rate. You'll still have tone and definition. Stop making dumbfounded statements.

 

[Pesmerga]

Not directed at anyone or anything in particular, but just a note from my observations- pushups, pullups, situps, and other body weight exercises are not the most effective ways to build larger muscle mass. In fact you'd be hard pressed to find anyone your size who gained substantial weight by body weight exercises alone.

That said, they are extremely important exercises to any regimen, and I don't know of anyone who ignores them completely. Pushups, pullups, chinups, dips, situps, planche pushups, etc, are great compound exercises and you should focus on them as much as you focus on anything else.

But to gain weight, with a body type such as the OPs, you'll definitely need to use equipment such as dumbbells, barbells, or other gym gear to put more weight on your routine. Not only do you need to get a more vigorous routine (higher weights, lower reps), but you'll need to increase your daily caloric intake. Protein for muscle gain, carbs for long term energy, and sugar for short term energy. If you take in nothing but protein, you'll start spending those proteins on energy, which you'd prefer to be spent on your muscle. If you eat nothing but carbs and sugars, you'll just get fat.

The problem with most skinny guys is that they simply don't eat enough. Their bodies don't need the excess calories- and the calories they do get is burned rapidly. They eat less and less often, which is just design of their genetics.

 

[Raziaar]

Every time I walk past the gym, I launch my fist into the wall. It hurts though, because it's like... those walls with concrete popcorn ceiling type textures.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Entirely ****ing false. If you're working out, you could even decrease the weight you're lifting after a 4-6 week period and you'll still build muscle. Just not at the same rate. You'll still have tone and definition. Stop making dumbfounded statements.

It depends on how you're lifting it, but if you're not pushing you're body you won't grow. Surely you can disagree with that statement.

I dropped my squat weight from 305 x 5 reps to 260 x 20 reps and saw massive benefit, but in different areas. It depends on your goals.

 

[phantomdesign]

My body is such that it refuses to gain mass (I've tried everything they recommend & was persistent).

Here's my solution: Don't fight it, work with it!

I can do 150 pushups, 75 1-arm pushups, 25 pullups (when in shape . . . I've been slacking on pullups), run a mile in 5:45, am extremely agile/fast, 205 bench, and surprisingly strong for my size (145 lbs). I'm not trying to brag with any of this . . . but seriously, it freaking rocks to be so fast, agile, but also strong! I hardly have an ounce of fat on my body, have great definition, and most importantly feel awesome I do a moderate work-out routine now that's maintainable, but pushes my limits, without destroying my free time or energy.

I personally don't consider myself to be the most attractive thing in the world, but girls seem to disagree. Just be who you are!

 

[Baal]

That would depend on the weight of your weight laugh. Sounds like a hypertrophic w-o from your rep and set rate, but it would come down to the geaviness of your weight, if you would be overexerting yourself with a very heavy weight, or if you would be in your correct w-o set regiem with a normal heavy weight with a hypertrophy regieum.

Also, generally as a rule i would never change the weight in the middle of a w-o, this leads to an uneven set and even worse it leads to muscle strain which could mean tearing or ligament damage even in the short run. Try to keep your weight that you're lifting as centralised as possible and only change the weight when you think that you're ready or at the end of a five-week (average weight gain time frame) w-o stretch. But basically, don't **** with the weight of your weights in the middle of a set, it leads to bad doo-doos.

Also, on nuts, there is absolutely nothing wrong with eating nuts, they are about as important as fruit in a diet. But i wouldn't just focus soley on eating nuts to get my protien. I would go for fish, n steak n pig (i try to avoid chicken as often as poss lol) and eggs as often as you can cram it down down your gullet :thumbs:

but you're right, there's certainly nothing wrong with nuts

the more you eat em the better





First and foremost i'm not gonna tell you how to workout, it's your life and you're entilted to your own opinion.

And yes it is interesting, i really do not recommend it [hypertrophy] as a regiem. It leads to all kinds of muscle, joint and ligament and tendon damage and all for a shitty effect and no kind of benefit, only to look half good. Most people starting on the regiem dont even stick to it, however that could also be attributed to outside factors as well.

I don't ever believe that somebody working out for the first time should ever consider starting off with this regiem. The problems associated with this are too great. A cardio/definition workout however would be more appropriate for this.
Maybe somebody with time under his/her belt however, like say 12-18 months of professionally observed training and consultance. Personally i wouldn't even do this regiem even if i was paid a swag load of money for it, the problems that go with the training both whilst the wo is being exercised and after it's ceased are huge.



Shit, just look at the evidence from Type2 the poor bugger




I won't stress the point but you're statement is entirely untrue. What utter ****ing bullshit!



True.



Also true.



Entirely ****ing false. If you're working out, you could even decrease the weight you're lifting after a 4-6 week period and you'll still build muscle. Just not at the same rate. You'll still have tone and definition. Stop making dumbfounded statements.

First of all, relax.

What I said wasn't completely false, it was simply a little...ignorant. I was assuming most people who lift weights are interested in getting bigger and stronger, preferably sooner rather than later. This is obviously untrue for everyone, but this topic all began with a guy who is looking to get bigger and stronger, so I don't see why I was so wrong in my assumptions.

You picked me apart on a technicality, and I don't exactly appreciate it, nor was it necessary.

A simple "muscles will still grow if you don't increase the weight you lift, just not at the same rate" would have sufficed, to be completely honest.

 

[soulslicer]

Thank you all for your input. So I'll put what you all said in a nutshell

1. Increase my Daily intake of carbs, protein which I am trying to do now.
2. Increase my free weights progressively as that's they only way according to you all, which I am doing.
3. Work on different body parts, not various one's on one day

WAIT!!

How is point 3 possible? There's a limit to the number of exercise and the time period of exercise you can work on one muscle group set, say triceps and biceps, what exactly are you people saying?
And why are you asking me to avoid chicken? Why?

 

[Kula Meenur]

Mr Baal i apologise sincerely for hurting your feelings, no sarcasm present.

You were wrong in your assumptions. I added correct information to counteract your incorrect information. I agree, the "stop making dumbfounded statements" was a little too harsh, but it was my icing on your cake of ignorance.


Now to settle this lets go get naked!

 

[Kula Meenur]

Thank you all for your input. So I'll put what you all said in a nutshell

1. Increase my Daily intake of carbs, protein which I am trying to do now.
2. Increase my free weights progressively as that's they only way according to you all, which I am doing.
3. Work on different body parts, not various one's on one day

WAIT!!

How is point 3 possible? There's a limit to the number of exercise and the time period of exercise you can work on one muscle group set, say triceps and biceps, what exactly are you people saying?
And why are you asking me to avoid chicken? Why?

No do eat chicken! I just don't eat it because of some of the shit they put in 'em over here... *yech*


what we mean is work on your upper body one day, then your lower body the next. Whenever you workout, you'll be focusing on a group of muscles, not just "A" specific one (ie: not just deltoral/ not just rotator cuff).

 

[FoxDie]

Entirely ****ing false. If you're working out, you could even decrease the weight you're lifting after a 4-6 week period and you'll still build muscle. Just not at the same rate. You'll still have tone and definition. Stop making dumbfounded statements.

I can't believe how confident some of you are in your misconceptions. I'm an exercise science major in college, and what you said it totally wrong. You'll still have, "tone and definition" because all of the work you are doing on a submaximal level will simply be raising your resting metabolic rate. Meaning that you will be cutting fat. This is NOT muscle growth. Have you ever heard of the principle of progression? For muscle size and strength to be improved, frequency, intensity, or duration of exercise must be increased consistently. The body is too skilled at adapting to stress to gain any sort of mass if you subject it to the exact same weight over and over again. Periods of rest can be beneficial in letting your body recover from cumulative stress, allowing you to work at higher levels later. But I assure you, if you lift 25 lb dumb bells for months on end, you will not build muscle.

/rant

 

[Pesmerga]

3. Work on different body parts, not various one's on one day

Work on several different muscle groups each day. For instance, if you worked your biceps/triceps one day, don't work on them the next. The muscles need time to recover. Alternating between lower and upper body muscle groups is what I do.

 

[Asuka]

I misread your post, i thought you said you should start with very high weights to a person who has never worked out. That's just stupid and your going to hurt yourself. Progressively highering weights with body weight work outs i feel is best. Oh and btw Mens Health isn't bad at all. Some good information on there. It pretty much has information on all kinds of body types and workouts. Probably not the best source but it sure as hell has good information.

 

[MiccyNarc]

I misread your post, i thought you said you should start with very high weights to a person who has never worked out. That's just stupid and your going to hurt yourself. Progressively highering weights with body weight work outs i feel is best. Oh and btw Mens Health isn't bad at all. Some good information on there. It pretty much has information on all kinds of body types and workouts. Probably not the best source but it sure as hell has good information.

Mens health is to the fitness world as fox news is to the media: overproduced sensationalized bullshit.

And try to read what I post instead of immediately bashing it, thank you. Progressively increasing the weight is exactly what I recommended.

 

[PvtRyan]

I can't believe how confident some of you are in your misconceptions. I'm an exercise science major in college, and what you said it totally wrong. You'll still have, "tone and definition" because all of the work you are doing on a submaximal level will simply be raising your resting metabolic rate. Meaning that you will be cutting fat. This is NOT muscle growth. Have you ever heard of the principle of progression? For muscle size and strength to be improved, frequency, intensity, or duration of exercise must be increased consistently. The body is too skilled at adapting to stress to gain any sort of mass if you subject it to the exact same weight over and over again. Periods of rest can be beneficial in letting your body recover from cumulative stress, allowing you to work at higher levels later. But I assure you, if you lift 25 lb dumb bells for months on end, you will not build muscle.

/rant

Hmm, I get the increasing the intensity part, but what do you mean by increasing frequency and duration? More reps / sets?

 

[FoxDie]

Hmm, I get the increasing the intensity part, but what do you mean by increasing frequency and duration? More reps / sets?

Intensity means increasing weight, reps, or sets. Frequency involves increasing the amount of days per week that you work out, and duration involves increasing the amount of time you spend in the gym per session. The latter is better suited for aerobic exercise, I'd suggest limiting weight lifting sessions to 1 hour, and you should be able to get it all done in 45 minutes.

 

[Asuka]

Mens health is to the fitness world as fox news is to the media: overproduced sensationalized bullshit.

And try to read what I post instead of immediately bashing it, thank you. Progressively increasing the weight is exactly what I recommended.

I dont read everything on that site. But the food ideas and the general information is nice. For example...

http://bellyoff.menshealth.com/SNC/...7f&pguid=f11af873-2ef5-4d59-802c-892406ffe605

Craig Ballantyne has some interesting workouts and ideas.

Eating plans and info: http://bellyoff.menshealth.com/SNC/...1c&pguid=f11af873-2ef5-4d59-802c-892406ffe605

Im sure there are much better sources online. Now tell me where do you get your info from?