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[Rico]

Venezuela could not support the entire globe for 100 years. That's ridiculous and laughable.

Seriously, I'm not going to post what amounts to about a years worth of daily research on my part (I have studied this zealously since I first learned of PO). I'm leaving that up to you. You're clearly ignorant on this topic and have some preconceived notions that you need to dispell, and I honestly don't have the time or energy to do it.

"You're wrong but my sources were exhausted by that one Dick Cheney post I made a while ago"

Oh and my apologies, I realize I mistyped and it reads like I believe the whole world can survive from Venezuela's reserves. That's not what I meant, the info I posted says that Venezuela could continue producing at the same rate based on present info alone for 100 years. The point is that it doesn't take into account any new oil wells or production, nor the introduction of new technology or any of that sort.

 

[marksiwel]

...No, I just think you're full of shit. My dad runs a nuclear reactor...
QUOTE]

No, his dad did what Rico says. He also worked for Microsoft.
How do I know?
I know Rico and his family IRL

*GASP*

I would post photos and shit, but I wont unless Rico says its okay, also his sister is a hot P.O.A.

Also did your dad not wear the lead apron around his balls, because that might explain his children.
But back on topic

 

[Saruke]

There is more oil in the Canadian oil sands then all of the middle east combined.

The only problem is turning that type of oil into something we can use and the oil companies are spending UNGODLY amounts of money trying to do that.

 

[MiccyNarc]

"You're wrong but my sources were exhausted by that one Dick Cheney post I made a while ago"

I have hundreds of sources, but I CBA. You're seriously not worth my time.

No, his dad did what Rico says. He also worked for Microsoft.
How do I know?
I know Rico and his family IRL

*GASP*

I would post photos and shit, but I wont unless Rico says its okay, also his sister is a hot P.O.A.

Also did your dad not wear the lead apron around his balls, because that might explain his children.
But back on topic

Pretty good of Rico to sign up with another account just to verify his own story. Very cute.

There is more oil in the Canadian oil sands then all of the middle east combined.

The only problem is turning that type of oil into something we can use and the oil companies are spending UNGODLY amounts of money trying to do that.

And it's causing an economic disaster, and it's draining the natural gas in Canada.
Now they want to do the same thing to colorado.

 

[Terminator]

There is more oil in the Canadian oil sands then all of the middle east combined.

The only problem is turning that type of oil into something we can use and the oil companies are spending UNGODLY amounts of money trying to do that.

I think this is a key point, fossil fuels will never 'run out' but they'll get to the point where it's rediculously expensive trying to extract the rest, once the price reaches a certain point other technologies will take precedence and there you go! Still i can't imagine oil industries will give up the fight easily and it'll become an even more hard cut industry in the near future.

The world has grown up on come easy natural resources, the american wells were dug very shallow and the stuff could be collected with simple nodding donkey pumps.

These days it's blasting seawater into oilwells that have been drilled at strange angles to float the oil or even chemically extracting oil shale stuff, ok so there's some easy access oil left but it's been left for various reasons, political, emvironmental or other.

 

[Saturos]

And for you idiots that always harp on the fact that inflation is just making it look more expensive

This.

Inflation is making oil prices more expensive. :angel:

Your wrong and I'm right Miccy, cuz this is the "I win" game, where the object is, "I'm right and your wrong". (I just couldn't help myself)

 

[Rico]

I have hundreds of sources, but I CBA. You're seriously not worth my time.

Pretty good of Rico to sign up with another account just to verify his own story. Very cute.

And it's causing an economic disaster, and it's draining the natural gas in Canada.
Now they want to do the same thing to colorado.

Heh. *Looks at other poster's join date* For some reason, I don't think that's me.

But if you really want to feed your paranoia, you can go on believing that's me too, or you can go ahead and ask a moderator to tell you his IP and compare it to mine.

I understand your time is very valuable, as you seem to have spent it researching a single topic for an entire year according to you, and yet you seem to know almost nothing about it.

Two people can play the "I have a bazillion sources but you're not worth it" game.

Funny, I thought the reason you posted this thread was for discussion. Did you merely wish to state that oil prices were high? Because I assure you, anyone with half a brain and access to any sort of media can look up that information. If you're in the business of making posts only to state the obvious, you might want to get a blog instead.

Your OP reeks of ignorance by the way, and it shows that the only person with a closed mind who came in to this discussion with preconceived notions is you.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Your OP reeks of ignorance by the way, and it shows that the only person with a closed mind who came in to this discussion with preconceived notions is you.

It's amazing how a one line post can give you this tremendous amount of information about me. You must have psychic abilities.

Anyway, if you want to get started on researching peak oil, you'll read this website:
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Then spend a few months at the The Oil Drum:
http://www.theoildrum.com/

And then you'll kindly STFU for a few months until you've thoroughly read up on this topic.

 

[repiV]

National shock as repiV advocates road safety legislation!

Hey, I'm all for sensible road safety legislation. It's the current approach which is driven largely by arseholes with a vendetta against motorised traffic and hysterical idiots I can't stand.
Teach people how to drive properly, teach pedestrians how to cross a road properly, scrap all speed cameras, abolish motorway speed limits, raise the national speed limit for dual carriageways to 100mph and the default urban speed limit to 40mph, give people an incentive to improve their driving skills on an ongoing basis and hold people properly accountable for bad driving rather than persecuting people for fast driving and you will see both accidents and congestion plummet.
Unfortunately a well oiled education-based system of road safety is far too alien from the current hammer-the-motorist enforcement-based system. But I digress.

You make a good point, although I'm not sure how much sound would matter as many cars these days are pretty damn quiet.

They are, but as a pedestrian you can still hear them. Motorbikes are loud, which is a good thing as it generally allows them to be heard from inside a car.

I'd like to see if it's possible to know exactly how much less energy electrical cars would use than petrol cars. It seems like even if you got rid of the oil you were directly using in transport, you'd still be dependent mainly on that substance until a viable alternative fuel (perhaps algae biofuel) that could be made directly into electricity was found.

Indeed. These things need to be known.
Unfortunately there's a tendency to jump on the "green bandwagon" (and pretty much every other political bandwagon, for that matter) without actually investigating the costs and benefits beforehand. Toyota Prius for example, being one of the least environmentally cars around, and many SUVs are more environmentally friendly than ordinary family cars.
My feeling is that "green motoring" as it stands is nothing more than an excuse to demonise drivers of plush cars and levy ridiculous levels of taxation. When genuine alternatives are actually being properly investigated, we might start to see some real progress.

 

[yakuruto]

When genuine alternatives are actually being properly investigated, we might start to see some real progress.

Which, sadly, is very unlikely to happen as long as mayor financial interests are compromised by any investigation in that field.

 

[Evo]

abolish motorway speed limits, raise the national speed limit for dual carriageways to 100mph and the default urban speed limit to 40mph

Ye gawds are ya mad!

Why so high/not there on the limits?

 

[repiV]

Ye gawds are ya mad!

Why so high/not there on the limits?

The speed limits are far too low. As it stands they are treated as targets to be achieved, rather than limits which should not be exceeded. They allow no room for discretion or judgement on the part of the driver, and certainly where drivers are not given responsibility they will not exercise it - so they are less able to select a safe speed below the limit when that is required, thus making them crash more often.
The 70mph national speed limit was created back in the 1960s due to people crashing into each other on the motorways in foggy conditions. An arbitrary number, to boot.
The roads have never been safer - serious injuries and death due to car accidents are now so rare they're practically inconsequential, and excessive speed is a minor factor in accidents - less than 5% of all crashes. The vast majority are caused by inattention, right of way violations or tailgating.
Speed limits that are too low contribute directly to inattention and tailgating. They therefore cause accidents, they do not prevent them.

I can't remember which road it was, but it was an A road in Hampshire I think - they reduced the limit from 70 to 50 and put average speed cameras along the whole stretch for miles. Accidents increased by 69% in the following year. And personally, I detest those "roadworks" on motorways which are 50 limits enforced by average speed cameras - the traffic is one great big block that cannot be avoided, following far too closely. They're like rolling walls of death.

Speed is irrelevant unless considered in conjunction with other factors - no speed is inherently unsafe. There is no reason why a skilled driver should not be able to exceed 150mph on the motorway without putting anyone at undue risk, and indeed they do so on the Autobahn on a daily basis. The Autobahns are one of the safest motorway networks in the world, and engineering does not account for that as they are built to a much lower standard than UK motorways.

There is simply no reason for the speed limits to remain so stupidly low, especially when we are hitting a crisis point in terms of the sheer amount of traffic and congestion on the roads. We should be encouraging traffic to flow more freely, not hampering it whenever possible. Modern vehicles are designed to travel quickly - and people should be allowed to drive at the speed they feel comfortable at. Barring serious errors in judgement, which in terms of speed selection are largely restricted to new and reckless drivers, that is the speed at which they will be paying the most attention to the road, and therefore at least risk of causing an accident.

My bike is a six year old 600cc sports-tourer, it's sub-100bhp and much lauded as a great commuter machine/first bike, yet it will break the single carriageway national speed limit in first gear - and it has six gears. It's designed to go fast, and it's an insult to expect me to conform to the antiquated speed limits we have in place. It's far safer to be alert at 130 than daydreaming at 70.