Peak Oil: PLEASE READ ITS A MUST READ

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Pesmerga said:
Oh, you must have missed my point. In ten years, we'll have technology that you can't even comprehend or fathom. In 50 years, we'll have set up a colony in space or on the moon that sustains life millions.
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Dude. GWB just set a 30 year goal of putting humans on mars. 30 years, just to get to mars. It's going to be a while before we colonize space in any signican't numbers.
 
We'd colonize space in an instant when companies see new business opportunities in doing so. It's no good when governments back these projects "for the good of man" it's so slow and filled with hesitancy.

If the moon was full of dilithium that could power our starships then it would be colonized instantly as corporations rush to mine and sell the product.
 
Theres determination still here, I hope some of you are right and that there is some rabbit these big oil companies have up their sleeves. I seriously doubt they do but I want to be suprised.

But just read the second page of that link and you'll see that some magic cure will still need to replace 25 trillion dollars worth of infrastructure worldwide. That is simply out of the reach of Shell/BP/Texaco combined. No one can absorb those costs. We might see some kind of continuation of America (read limited power supply and mega prices with a new peasant class) or some countries in the West but for the majority of people, they will run out of electricity then food and then die.
 
Sometimes you have to do a little research and read both sides of the story. Don't just take 1 sides account of the story.

Here is an excellent rebuttal to this peak oil scare.

rebuttal
 
I appreciate the rebuttal and must admit Im having a hard time decyphering what the article is really trying to say. It could be just a high level document and not meant for the lay person or it could just be a deliberate attempt to muddy the water.

Since theres still some scepticism about the original link I'll provide a few more well known sources for you.
CNN Money: IMF "Oil could hit $100, hurt growth"
Comments on Peak Oil by a Bush Insider
Dick Cheneys Comments On Peak Oil

As you can see there is overwhelming evidence supporting Peak Oil. You dont have to just take that single articles word for it.
 
Oh no, we're all doomed!

Subz, this is the internet. Apparently, on the internet, Neil Armstrong never landed on the moon. The Mob shot Kennedy. 911 was a government conspiracy. A missile (not an aircraft) hit the Pentagon.

You've fallen hook, line and sinker for a site that is basically trying to scare you out of your wits. The reason that oil has been going up recently is because in years preceding this, the oil market was flooded. Why do you think Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in the first place?

Anyhow, I can't be bothered typing more, as I'm off out to drive my 4.0 litre V8 TVR.


Oh, and oil $100 dollars in 2030? Ever heard of inflation?
 
i choose to ignore everything, and just pretend that everythig is just fine
 
Basically what the rebuttal is saying is that the bell curve doesn't apply to all countries. It doesn't apply to the majority of them. Only a small percentage. The whole theory is based on flawed logic.

Basically, once you take away the bell curve and replace it with a curve that has multiple peak, the whole peak oil theory is CRAP.
 
Peak Oil doesnt rely on the bell curve it is supported enough by industry and insider reports that known oil fields are declining in the amount of barrels a day they produce. Even Saudi Arabian oil fields have peaked, its available for all to see if you look.

With virtually every oil field declining in the amount of oil its producing on a daily basis which conflicts with high oil prices. If prices are high the only thing that would stop higher production is a declining supply.

Theres also been scant attempts to extend the worlds oil fields and the investment in finding new oil fields by Big Oil has dropped considerably.

Put this with the fact that the United States hasnt built a new refinery for over 30 years and you can see that even the industry isnt optimistic when it comes to Oil Supply.

Peak Oil is a symptom of Oil supply. All the data and evidence suggests that the supply of oil has already peaked. There maybe some fields that havent but they are in the minority. When these fields peak in production the price of oil will go through the roof.

Thats where it all starts. The oil doesnt have to run out completly for life as we know it to cease. Its the very initial decline of supply that will shock the world economy into flat lining.
 
All I have to say is...

ANWR - just drill it...

Hopefully by the time all the precious oil runs out we can have enough cheap alternate energy sources to keep us alive.
 
Heres the deal with the ANWR
1. According of the Department of Energy, drilling in ANWR will only
lower oil prices by less than fifty cents;

2. ANWR contains 10 billion barrels of oil - or about the amount the US
consumes in a little more than a year.

3. As with all oil projects, ANWR will take about 10 years to come
online. Once it does, its production will peak at 875,000 barrels per
day - but not till the year 2025. By then the US is projected to need
a whopping 35 million barrels per day while the world is projected to
need 120 million barrels per day.
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a question for you subz, what are YOU intending to do about it? the article is pretty pessimistic( maybe it has reason to but still...), but if what it says is set in stone, why do you want to spread the message?

i'm simply asking, not trying to argue
 
I want to spread the word about this because at the moment the discussion of peak oil is being supressed by the powerful amongst us while they set themselves up to best survive it. The majority of us are going to be unprepared when peak oil strikes and this will play right into the hands of the rich and powerful who have.

They are depending on our ignorance so that they can continue to make money from us whilst we dont panic. Just like you wouldnt advertise to a truck load of cattle going to the slaughterhouse that they are going to die.

I want to see people atleast given a chance to buy things that could help them survive when peak oil hits. These include things such as fishing rods, first aid kits, camping gear, books on survival, personal photovoltaic cells etc.
 
What I'm curious about is if the President is aware of this than why is he wasting time with the so-called social security reform?
 
Were my posts deleted? What I pretty much said was that all your people are pretty dumb if you think we are going to have to start over, there are many others resources that can be used and some are renewable.
 
subz- said:
I want to spread the word about this because at the moment the discussion of peak oil is being supressed by the powerful amongst us while they set themselves up to best survive it. The majority of us are going to be unprepared when peak oil strikes and this will play right into the hands of the rich and powerful who have.

They are depending on our ignorance so that they can continue to make money from us whilst we dont panic. Just like you wouldnt advertise to a truck load of cattle going to the slaughterhouse that they are going to die.

I want to see people atleast given a chance to buy things that could help them survive when peak oil hits. These include things such as fishing rods, first aid kits, camping gear, books on survival, personal photovoltaic cells etc.
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He didn't ask what "the majority of us" is going to do about it, he asked what you are going to do. And are you planning on buying any of the above?

Here's a tip: save up & buy an electric generator. All technology of today's world wouldn't be completly lost then once this hits which is farther then when they tell you it is & what you're told to believe it is :rolling:
 
Vorac1ous said:
He didn't ask what "the majority of us" is going to do about it, he asked what you are going to do. And are you planning on buying any of the above?

Here's a tip: save up & buy an electric generator. All technology of today's world wouldn't be completly lost then once this hits which is farther then when they tell you it is & what you're told to believe it is :rolling:
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Sorry I focused on this part of his post
Septih said:
why do you want to spread the message?
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What am I planning on doing about it?

Well for starters im going to spend my money wisely from now on. No more thousands of dollars on computer upgrades. I was considering buying a car when I get back but that will be pointless in a few years. I was also considering a 3D animation course at a private college but that too will also be redundant in a few years time.

Ive actually got most of what I listed in what people should consider buying. I know how to fish and have all the equipment and would consider buying a rifle for hunting purposes. I'll also be reading up on survival techniques for the area where I'll be living (Melbourne, Australia). I'll be thinking things over on how best to protect/prepare myself.

Its no good slapping a photovoltaic cell,turbine or water catchment on the roof and advertising to everyone you have it. When people start to panic and go hungry the chances of theft skyrocket. So I'd consider hiding it till the die offs start in earnest (horrible to say but its purely survival).

I'll also consider moving to a rural area in a couple of years time and maybe get a few head of cattle or sheep.
 
have fun with your cattle and sheep.....How you going to transport them with no gasoline?
 
Should we all just drop out of school too because of this? Are we all going to die?
 
Zeus said:
Should we all just drop out of school too because of this? Are we all going to die?
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No that wouldnt solve anything. If youre still in school its your parents that should be doing something about this not you. They should atleast be considering what they might do when oil becomes unaffordable and how best to prepare for it.

Its no good trying to do something when the crash comes as you and everyone else in the modern world tries to do it at the same time. Those who are atleast prepared before the crash are the ones who are best equiped to survive it.
 
I guess its finally time for humanity to move to Jupiter
 
subz- said:
I'd disagree that everyone knows about Peak Oil...
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It looks to me that everyone in congress at least knows about it...

http://www.energybulletin.net/4733.html

energybulletin seems to be a really great site with lots of information on energy sources and related current events. I do PC support for a power company so I follow the industry a little bit here and there.

I hope you do more research on the subject and see that it's maybe not completely hopeless.

http://energybulletin.net/
 
Well , I just read that so-called rebuttal ,and I cant say I`m impressed at all.
It seems that his arguement boils down to nit-picking over statistical procedures and methodolgy, and doesnt actully put forward any kind of alternative model for production other than to say "dont worry , production is driven by demand" (a commonly used and somewhat unconvincing posture at best).
Not much of a rebuttal at all.
Production is of course linked not only to demand but also to economic and political situations(example: Iraqi resistance are inhibiting oil supply by targeting oil pipelines). That in itself does not refute the geological certainty of a finite resource that will one day(maybe soon) reach a point where no amount of demand will be able to influence how much can be produced per day.

PS: subz , you might want to consider relocating out of the country all together, Australia(post-peak) will have very limited means for supporting its population.
Wow , just think ; a whole nation gone all mad-max *shudder*
 
Thanks for the clarification on the rebuttal, i had a real hard time with understanding it. All it seemed to do was pin itself on the fact that the bell curve was not a magical crystal ball. Well thats great, tools for statistical predicition are not exact but give a probability which is a lot more accurate than crossing your fingers and praying that the sky doesnt cave in.

Also with regards to Australia not supporting itself. I think its chances are better than most countries. Its got a low population (uncrowded and easier to grow your own crops), temperate to tropical climate (little risk of freezing to death), low gun ownership so when the country decends into anarchy it wont become overly dangerous. There are problems though, the country is infested with spiders and snakes that are the most deadly in the World. There are diseases that you can catch from mosquitos and crocodiles in the tropical realms of the country. These are major drawbacks but down in Melbourne we only have the snakes and spiders :dozey:

Also whilst the percentage of arable land is very low, the fact that the country/continent is immense (almost the size of the United States) means that there is enough grain grown to support the 20 million people there currently with surplus.

Of course that wont matter a jot when the trucks cant haul the grain to the people but I'll attempt to move to where the food is before the crash.

Whereas countries like the UK are small, cramped (3x the population of Australia), cold/freezing (chances of dying due to no heating is great), heavily urbanised (little space to grow crops when compeating with 60 million others) the amount of guns here is comparable to Oz but the greater population coupled with the much smaller area increases your chance of coming into contact with them.

But America is where it will be hard to survive. The country has 250 million people with 222 million firearms, when that country decends into anarchy your chances of being robbed of the scant resources you've gathered are great. The country is cool to temperate in most places with moderate to tropical south so depending on where you live you might die due to lack of heat. The country has enough arable land but not to support 250 million people, it currently faces a domestic grain shortfall as it is with access to fossil fuels. Put that together with the 222 million firearms and your chances of getting/growing any food are slim.

Have the rest of you objectively thought about how your country will cope? Or how well you will be able to survive without oil in it? Asia is cramped and prone to disease and natural disaster, Northern Europe is freezing, The Carribean looks nice :D and Southern Europe does too.
 
Ive heard all about this, but its not as hopeless as it sounds, intially it'll probably be disasterous and paralise alot of the economically developed world, but if you look into why , and how we are where we are today, Its all based around a few men, our conventional methods of energy generation and combustion into kinetics. which was kicked off by a man called Nikola Tesla, very famous bloke.



Tesla discovered electrical phenomena , and immediately announced his methods and findings, Greedy tycoon's lapped it up as the discovery of the century because of its implications in being able to charge($) other people for generating and channeling it for them. Only after that development Tesla continued his work in this society that was now becoming dependant on the operation of conventional electrical generation. His work took him into anomalous findings by today's understanding.. he found a new kind of wave, called a scalar wave, which eminates from vacuum in the space between the atoms, he used his knowledge in creating a radiant energy device, which used a capacitor to obsorb radiant energies through day and night, which produced static charge which was channeled into a circuit and treated for useable electricity, by the time of his new discoveries old methods where too established and too important to be had away with in light of his fantastic new discoveries, so it was ridiculed and supressed in order to prevent interferance in tycoon buisness's and many rich mens lives.

http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml

http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm

using scalar Tesla claimed he was also able to transmit electricity without use of wires.

Today's world is in the hands of nothing more than an established appointement of biggot's, under them conventional science ridicules and mocks scalar technology, just as they always do when things dont make sense to them, or contradict their jobs and belief's. If this is true, we as a people are supressed and held back to satisfy the ideal's of the few, the most effective element in all this is the sheer physcological momentum of how we a brought up, we are crafted to suit society and in doing so we become blinded into our way of life, weither it be pressure to conform, or everyday messages that effect your thoughts on reality.. in a manner of speaking im moulded, my family is moulded, we accept this because everything is quite often on a silver platter for alot of us to get at if we try , it aspires to our desires ,our egotism, our lust, alot of base instict's that pervert our higher brain functions and turn us into near walking craving zombies, its the ultimate distraction and it works. The mentality behind it is important when you consider whats going on everyday behind the scenes, the things people want you to believe , the truth , and your own opinions.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/ev...EnergyMovement/6900049_MarkComings/index.html
Our human dissonance needs to dissolve. We need to wake up from the lies. We are not separate; we are expressions of the unified field. The Zero Point field is sentient. We "the group" need to learn to come into phase together. We don't have an energy shortage. We have an integrity shortage. We need to be the change we want to see in the world. Resonance has the quality of entrainment. We no longer need labs to be destroyed or agents of chaos or funding that gets shut down.

We will pull the rug out from the dominant world view. We must re-do the monetary system and create a just economy to reflect the values of an emerging energy system. We need a completely new society and these new energies we are talking about harnessing, symbolize this new covenant with the earth. We need new living communities.

We are living in economic slavery and we want economic democracy and this energy will do it. Throw off the economic dictatorship. Let's take the focus off of the inventor, let's give it away if we have to. We need a diffusion strategy. We will have these resonant field technologies among us when our primary allegiance is to humanity as a whole and not just to some nation.
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http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Greer/rumormillnews030210.htm

SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BREAKTHROUGH IN HISTORY

Date: Monday, 10 February 2003, 1:04 a.m.

Here are some more excerpts from Dr. Stephen Greer's recent announcement of a working free-energy device which taps hundreds of watts of energy from the vacuum of space (zero point) and converts it to 110 AC current.

Interviewed on George Noory's Coast to Coast radio program, Greer thrilled listeners with the tale of having just gone to see the inventor and observe the device for himself. He said you could pick it up in one hand.

Dr. Greer said "This is the most astounding material object I've ever seen in my life. And that's saying something." He likened it to a "Holy Grail type of device." Greer had formed a group called Space Energy Access Systems with the purpose was identifying and testing new technologies to tap the inexhaustible energy of the time domain. As scalar scientist Tom Bearden has said, "Time is compressed energy", by the factor of lightspeed squared, and the "Holy Grail" is a device to convert the energy of time-waves down into the ordinary transverse EM 3-space waves. Such a device pours out electricity for free, forever. Although this seems to break 2nd-law conservation of energy, Bearden says that it does not break this law because this energy is conserved in the higher dimension, the 4th dimension of time.

Greer announced that such a device has been found.

The inventor's name is being withheld for his own security and protection. In the thuggish world in which we now live there are quite a number of very powerful corporations which would use any means necessary to suppress this free-energy device. In fact we are on the verge of mass slaughter in order to get more oil.
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War for oil
A very close friend of the Bush family told Greer in February, 2003 that they had to go in there and free up the second largest oil reserve in the world. Some of the reasons are countries like China industrialising at 10-15% a year, and India industrialising close to that. There were simply not enough fossil fuel to go around. We were headed to a catastrophic shortage within the next two to ten years if we didn`t maximise the output of these oil producing areas. And that was totally what we were going into Iraq for. Here is a person that is a close associate with the Bush family telling me this personally, and that turned out to be the case. There are no weapons of mass destruction, and there was no Al Qaeda presence in Iraq, Greer tells radio host, Art Bell.

- It is tragic because we are sitting in another parallel program in these black boxes that has the means to take us completely off the fossil fuel economy. This is one of the greatest crimes against humanity in the history of the humanrace, Dr. Steven Greer, says
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This is interesting:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtml

Above link claims the theory of oil being organic is wrong. According to it, if oil was really a fossil fuel, it would have taken 150 billion dinosaurs (at a rate of 5 oil barrels per fossil dinosaur) that died at the same time and in the same location, to account for the oil we've already used up.

Instead, above link proposes that oil is not organic by nature (even though it contains carbon), but rather that oil is an anorganic substance created by geological forces, wich would occur on a regular basis. It even goes so far as to claim some wells have been completely emptied, only to be refilled (because of major underground oil streams) when investors where just about to pack and leave the oil field. The above link also claims there is 50 years of Russion(Sovjet) documented research to support the anorganic oil theory whereas the organic fossil fuel theory barrely has any research documentation at all.

The article in above link states that as a result, peak oil theory is impossible because oil is infinite, due to its creation being a natural process that occurs constantly at a depth of 100km at temperatures of around 1500°C with pressures of around 50000 times our atmosphere.

Furthermore, the author suggests peak oil theory could very well be a fabricated story to serve american propaganda. The idea here is that even left-minded liberal people would come to realize [after reading the peak oil article] that their way of life is in a terrifying (paralyzing) danger if Middel-Eastern wars aren't fought and won over precious finite oil.


I looked for good debunks for the peak oil theory, and above is the only one that could provide a challenge to it. It's about as long to read as the oil peak theory itself. Read if you're interested.

I find it remarkable that research around the origin of oil seems to be at the same stage as research around the origin of our universe, meaning very unreliable and incomplete. I can't deny the fact that it would take a huge amount of animals to create the amount of oil we've discovered/used already, in fact dinosaurs would have had the need to have used oil themselves to support an agriculture that would permit them to reach a population that is 30 times bigger than humankind. Kinda shakes it all up doesn't it?

I think the oil problem is a big deep hole of political bullshit and I feel like all this speculation is just the tip of a giant bullshit iceberg. If anyone can, I'd be glad to be enlightened by the truth.
 
Element Alpha said:
This is interesting:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtml

Above link claims the theory of oil being organic is wrong. According to it, if oil was really a fossil fuel, it would have taken 150 billion dinosaurs (at a rate of 5 oil barrels per fossil dinosaur) that died at the same time and in the same location, to account for the oil we've already used up.

Instead, above link proposes that oil is not organic by nature (even though it contains carbon), but rather that oil is an anorganic substance created by geological forces, wich would occur on a regular basis. It even goes so far as to claim some wells have been completely emptied, only to be refilled when investors where just about to pack and leave the oil field. The above link also claims there is 50 years of Russion documented research to support the anorganic oil theory whereas the organic fossil fuel theory barrely has any research documentation at all.

The article in above link states that as a result, peak oil theory is impossible because oil is infinite, due to its creation being a natural process that occurs constantly at a depth of 100km at temperatures of around 1500°C with pressures of around 50000 times our atmosphere.

Furthermore, the author suggests peak oil theory could very well be a fabricated story to serve american propaganda. The idea here is that even left-minded liberal people would come to realize [after reading the peak oil article] that their way of life is in a terrifying (paralyzing) danger if Middel-Eastern wars aren't fought and won over precious finite oil.


I looked for good debunks for the peak oil theory, and above is the only one that could provide a challenge to it. It's about as long to read as the oil peak theory itself. Read if you're interested.

I find it remarkable that research around the origin of oil seems to be at the same stage as research around the origin of our universe, meaning very bad. I can't deny the fact that it would take a huge amount of animals to create the amount of oil we've discovered/used already. Kinda shakes it all up doesn't it.

I think the oil problem is a big deep hole of political bullshit and I feel like all this speculation is just the tip of a giant bullshit iceberg.
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It doesn't matter we're still all going to die with or without oil
 
There might be something new, the article at http://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtml is dated March 5 2005

I read "A geologists take on abiotic theory", and I must say I'm slightly disapointed. For a theory that is so well established as organic oil, I expected a clearer dismissal of abiotic oil. The author doesn't adress the issue of quantity (how many organisms had to die to create so much oil?) and barely adresses the issues of simulation (success of making oil in a lab with high pressure and temperature) and availability of methane on other bodies of our solar system, where life is very hard to imagine.

This is all verry disturbing.
 
I agree its a hazy area on both sides and no concrete evidence has been produced for either theory. This is to be expected due to both Biological and Abiotic Theories pertain to impossible to recreate variants. Either billions of years (Biological) or the immense pressure and temperature in the Earth's mantle (Abiotic).

The writing style of the link you provided, whilst funny, is not scientifically encouraging :( It started out very promising with its provision of the Russian-Ukrainian reasearch but digressed into a kind of bitchfest. It looks like a heated argument complete with jibes and insults between the authour and some Peak Oil researchers in FromTheWilderness. Im over half way through reading it now and im going to finish it regardless.
 
subz- said:
But America is where it will be hard to survive. The country has 250 million people with 222 million firearms, when that country decends into anarchy your chances of being robbed of the scant resources you've gathered are great. The country is cool to temperate in most places with moderate to tropical south so depending on where you live you might die due to lack of heat. The country has enough arable land but not to support 250 million people, it currently faces a domestic grain shortfall as it is with access to fossil fuels. Put that together with the 222 million firearms and your chances of getting/growing any food are slim.
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Unfortunarly us pirates know that you dont have any Firearms and plan on invading in our Bio-Desiel and alchol powered vehicles with our 222 million fire arms just so yall have something to do. Too bad yall wont have any weapons to defend yourselves.
 
johnshafft said:
Unfortunarly us pirates know that you dont have any Firearms and plan on invading in our Bio-Desiel and alchol powered vehicles with our 222 million fire arms just so yall have something to do. Too bad yall wont have any weapons to defend yourselves.
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I'll just pin my hopes on your map reading skills being on a par with your spelling skills. Hoping you'll invade Greenland instead of Australia ;)
 
subz- said:
No that wouldnt solve anything. If youre still in school its your parents that should be doing something about this not you. They should atleast be considering what they might do when oil becomes unaffordable and how best to prepare for it.

Its no good trying to do something when the crash comes as you and everyone else in the modern world tries to do it at the same time. Those who are atleast prepared before the crash are the ones who are best equiped to survive it.
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What about the nuclear winter that will happen after everyone is fighting for oil? It will be so cold out and we won't see the sun for hundreds of years, plus the radiation.

By the way I have spread this around in my school and now everyone is afraid and really upset
 
There are too many assumptions. There are definately alternatives, maybe not as cheap, but they'll do.
 
It seems like some of you are letting this issue consume your daily life (or at least a chunk of it). Constant research, reading giant articles, all this stuff...I read the first page and a half of that peak oil article and realized even IF something horrible was going to happen in the next few years (which I doubt) the last thing I want to be doing with time I have is reading all this depressing stuff about nuclear war and how 5/6 of the population will die and blah blah blah.

C'mon people, believers in this doomsday theory - if you think the world as you know it will end in a few years, why waste your time researching more about what you can't control or do anything about (sure you could equip yourself with a few things if you want, but beyond that...what can you do?) ?

If it's gonna happen, I'll deal with it when it happens. I don't plan spending any more time reading this horror story of a theory...I'm going to play Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal.
 
subz- said:
I'll just pin my hopes on your map reading skills being on a par with your spelling skills. Hoping you'll invade Greenland instead of Australia ;)
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Thats the wonderful thing about my learning disability is that it only annoys people on message boards. So keep an eye out for a big pirate flag in 20 to 30 years

Iceland would be worth invading we could tap into thier geothermal activitiy, But greenland we'll leave for you since it will be closer to your native england you damn criminals ;)
 
Vorac1ous said:
You're an idiot to believe everything these liberal politicians shove down your throat is true.

Sure, we may be running out of oil, but we won't fully run out for atleast another 100 years I'd say, probably even longer.

Don't worry about it...even if it were to happen today, electricity would take oil's place, sure we wouldn't be able to use cars or whatever but that would be the only problem.

And people have woken up...they just have'nt done anything about it.
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I couldn't stop laughing when i read this... where do you think electricity comes from??? The Great Electricity Tree in the sky? Did you even read the article?
 
subz- said:
The sole reason I posted this is so that people who read it will think about the long term decisions they make. Should people embark on a 3 year university degree when electricity will have risen in price by 6400% by the time the course is finished? Or should you consider taking courses in primitive culture and survival? The course that might have a chance of saving your life would be the better option.

I dont mean to sound like a drama queen but burying your head in the sand will not save you. I'll gladly take your verbal abuse, its the least of my worries. If atleast a couple of readers understand the gravity of the situation we are facing and go on to tell a few of their family and friends about it, its potentially a few lives saved.

Just read the article and judge for yourself.
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That reminds me of a scene from the movie "The Day After Tomorrow". If you watched the movie you would know the entire North Hemisphere had been wrecked by tornados, tsunamis and subzero temperatures, so the lead actress was sitting down and crying, saying that she had spent her entire life preparing for a future that had suddenly ceased to exist... sad story.
 
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