Pig Toys/Calenders/Tissue Boxes BANNED

Solaris, I don't regard their culture as "inferior", I just regard it as being an oppressive minority, which is a completely ridiculous notion in a democratic country, where the majority is technically supposed to rule. I think a balance should be established, and banning plastic pigs is just tipping the scales too damned far towards the minority.
 
Flyingdebris said:
It would be one thing if the muslim coworkers politely requested the removal of the pig related items. That would not be a problem.

But to call for a ban, that is just called assholery and rude
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Thats what Im saying, how do we know they didn't ask.
 
It's sad that when I read the title, I thought someone was complaining about a member named "Pig Toys/Calendars/Tissue Boxes" being banned from the forums.
 
Sulkdodds said:
...I'm not trying to undermine religious beliefs thar. If you don't want to eat pigs don't eat it - I just disagree with enforcing that rule of yours on everyone else who is not a muslim (which is essentially what's happening here).
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i would never want to enforce islamic rules to people who are not muslims. but really, how do you know if muslims haven't asked politly? how do you know if they haven't refused to listen? frankly, i don't care about the pigs, i mean like i'm not allergic to them or anything, but sometimes it's not the pig itself that is annoying...
islam is not an aggresive religion, we have this in the Quran that "there is no enforcement in religion..." and we should obey, i just wanted to make sure that you understand why we don't eat pork, and also, that head thingy, it's called a head-scarf, islam has it's own reasons for women wearing it, we should not offence eachother's religious beliefs just because we don't belive in them, (not that we don't, but we might have different discreptions of a matter, for example, you wouldn't go out bum-naked in the city, would you?)we have different lines we should not cross, we fast and so do christians in some way, not eating meat for half or i think a day (carnival) we pray and so do christians on sundays, we just have the problem that we don't want to accept eachother's beliefs in some ways, not that you or anyone in this forum does, but some people do...
anyway if you found my post offensive, sorry, i didn't mean to be.

solaris: who were you swearing at?
 
you wouldn't go out bum-naked in the city, would you?
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I might. But anyway.

Don't worry, I don't find your post offensive in the slightest and I can understand your viewpoint. I do respect Islam - well, as much as I respect any organised religion.
 
I think its pretty crazy not to love pigs anyways... I mean, Muslims believe in god... do you selectively love some of gods creatures and think others are supremely vile, disgusting things?

Hell... rats are far more disease ridden and dirty than pigs.
 
Raziaar said:
I mean, Muslims believe in god...
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the three dots mean something don't they?

Solaris said:
how do we know they didn't ask.
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exactly, and again, we don't know what has actually happened here, i remember there was this mosque in newyork, they build a whore-house in the other side of the street, now isn't that a bit offensive? anyway, muslims asked them to reconsider, after they refused, the made a section of the mosque as a school for children to teach them ethics, something like the sunday schools in churchs, having a sign, and because of the rule that there shouldn't be a whore-house near a school, they had to close the whore-house.
it was legal, it was a law, if some can't bare humanity, there are still laws to stop them, about the pig stuff banning thing, they couldn't just wake up one dy and ask for a ban, and then be accepted, there must have been some other reasons for that, i've said before, maybe it wasn't just about the pigy stuff, if the muslim's fellowship workers had a reason against the ban, they could have easily stop it.
Raziaar said:
i think its pretty crazy not to love pigs anyways...
Hell... rats are far more disease ridden and dirty than pigs.
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some belive frogs are more disease ridden and dirty and disgusting,
but it doesn't mean i should hate frogs.

Raziaar said:
do you selectively love some of gods creatures and think others are supremely vile, disgusting things?
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do you selectively love cockroaches?
or are you telling me they are supremely vile, disgusting things?

just because you love pigs, it doesn't mean i or others should, try to respect other's opinion and beliefs.
 
jerkasaur said:
the three dots mean something don't they?



exactly, and again, we don't know what has actually happened here, i remember there was this mosque in newyork, they build a whore-house in the other side of the street, now isn't that a bit offensive? anyway, muslims asked them to reconsider, after they refused, the made a section of the mosque as a school for children to teach them ethics, something like the sunday schools in churchs, having a sign, and because of the rule that there shouldn't be a whore-house near a school, they had to close the whore-house.
it was legal, it was a law, if some can't bare humanity, there are still laws to stop them, about the pig stuff banning thing, they couldn't just wake up one dy and ask for a ban, and then be accepted, there must have been some other reasons for that, i've said before, maybe it wasn't just about the pigy stuff, if the muslim's fellowship workers had a reason against the ban, they could have easily stop it.


some belive frogs are more disease ridden and dirty and disgusting,
but it doesn't mean i should hate frogs.



do you selectively love cockroaches?
or are you telling me they are supremely vile, disgusting things?

just because you love pigs, it doesn't mean i or others should, try to respect other's opinion and beliefs.
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I respect their beliefs. Its just hard for me to understand it. Is that hard for YOU to understand?

Anyways, the three dots are called an ellipses, and I use them all the time. THey have no significance whatsoever. They've kind of become a trademark of mine... and I use them where they even shouldn't belong <chuckles>
 
CptStern said:
hmmmmm I think you're commiting trademark infringement .......
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A distinctive characteristic by which a person or thing comes to be known: the shuffle and snicker that became the comedian's trademark.


:cheers:

And i'm not known for it here, but elsewhere. Besides... I could out ellipses you anyday!
 
CptStern said:
no .....you ........couldnt
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Yeah... I could. See... the proper way of doing it is so that it makes sense, which you obviously can't do... right? Right, I thought so.

Anyways.... moving on!
 
please, the day you best me is the day I'm lowered into the ground by about 6 feet .............. :p
 
CptStern said:
please, the day you best me is the day I'm lowered into the ground by about 6 feet .............. :p
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I can at least best you at this. :naughty:


But we're kinda going way off topic...
 
jerkasaur said:
some belive frogs are more disease ridden and dirty and disgusting,
but it doesn't mean i should hate frogs.
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It doesn't mean that the display of frogs in a non-inflammatory matter should be banned, though.

If the one who hated frogs had say, a frog thrown in their face during work, the person doing it should be disciplined. But if there's say, a plush Kermit the Frog sitting on top of some secretary's monitor, to have her remove it is rediculous (the only plausible reason is professional environment conditions, and if they're going to do that it's gonna get pretty bland because they better remove all other things too)
 
again, you don't get he point i'm making here,
if it was like what you said, you'd be right, but i don't think it was the pig toys that insulted the muslims,
let's think like this:
if there was a piggy bank on someone's desk, it would be ok, but if i had a pig toy at work and went like: "oooh yeah, i have a pigy toy, oh and by the way, you muslims don't eat pig do you? haahaa, well, sad for you, cause i love it..." and then started licking the pig, it would be like, ok, not so cool.
it might not be this bad as i said but again, it might have not been the pig that was annoying for them....
 
pssh, it'd probably be a good thing i never worked there. I love eating chicharonnes (fried pork skin) and around the holidays all i ever talk about is how nobody has lived until they've tried some delicious roast pork skin fresh off the pig right just as its off the grill. Crunchy on one side, gooey with fat on the other. mmmmmmmmmmmhmmmm.

Seriously now, some people need to lighten up and grow a sense of humor. Too many humorless assholes these days. I mean so what if pigs are considered dirty, so are about a hundred other species of various animals, what else is new? Why is there this hateful obesssion with pigs? Might as well apply it to rats, shellfish, snails, various insects, and many types of reptiles too. Are we going to throw any references to those animals away too?
 
Are we going to throw any references to worms and snakes and roaches away too? some people eat them and they like it...
 
come to think of it, whats's so bad about pigs anyway? I'm cuban american, my grandmas cook pork into almost every other meal. I'm as healthy as ever.

Just cause they roll around in feces is no reason to rule them out as being inedible. Last i checked most vegetables are fertilized with feces. you can't eat anything without eating something disgusting anyhow. Its best to just avoid what will make you sick, savor the taste, and try not to think about whats in your food.
 
let's eat sh!t and not try to think what's in it...
anyway, nevermind, sorry everyone...
 
Yeah, that was necessary.

There's a difference, whatever you might happen to think, between a pig and shit.

Now what are these rumblings I hear about Christmas and Holocaust Remembrance day being deemed 'offensive to muslims?' Christmas lights being referred to as winter lights and so forth?
 
what? i've never heard of that, if it was offensive, islamic country televisions would never show them, but they actually make it look even more beautiful, we say marry christmas even to those who are not christian, we don't take offence, no, NEVER.
who says so?
 
Sulkdodds said:
Now what are these rumblings I hear about Christmas and Holocaust Remembrance day being deemed 'offensive to muslims?' Christmas lights being referred to as winter lights and so forth?
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I've heard that too... Sucks really that they have to do that.
 
Political correctness goes too far....

People need to be realistic ffs.
 
Sulkdodds said:
Yeah, that was necessary.

There's a difference, whatever you might happen to think, between a pig and shit.

Now what are these rumblings I hear about Christmas and Holocaust Remembrance day being deemed 'offensive to muslims?' Christmas lights being referred to as winter lights and so forth?
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I hate this. These sort of storys come from right wing press, to try and make Political Correctness seem absurd. These things don't actually happen, its lies.

And at my local remberance day there was a Muslim who sang from the Quaran, so I doubt the storys true.
 
Well it is pretty exclusive.

I know at the County Youth Council were having a cleerbration of diversity instead of a Chrismas do.
 
Man what is happening to the concept of being able to celebrate/express something YOU like without having to water it down for those who won't even celebrate/express it themselves.
 
Flyingdebris said:
Man what is happening to the concept of being able to celebrate/express something YOU like without having to water it down for those who won't even celebrate/express it themselves.
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Nothing, you fully aloud to do it.

Wouldn't you be pissed if your tax moneys went towards the celebration of something you didnt belive in?
 
man I wished we could just ban God/Alah out our every day life
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Thats the exact same thing as this whole banning personal items thing... people ENJOY religion... they feel it helps them become better people, more in tune with themselves, and more at peace. I know I feel that way with my religion.

So... **** no to abolishing religion.

Maybe abolishing religious institutions the chance of acquiring political power, maybe... but no, no abolishing... That would like be taking away some of the most valued things in a persons life, their beliefs.
 
<3 Raziaar.

Its strange, however, how the UK are so scared of offending any minority group. The Christmas Lights in my town are beign renamed "Celebrity Lights"

-Angry Lawyer
 
So they should.

Less than half the people in England are Christian (I'm guessing here) so why should everybodys taxes go to a religous celerbrzation that excludes alot of people, if you just call them holiday lights, then eveyone can join in the fun.
 
No, they shouldn't. Else Ramadan should be referred to as 'Fast Month', shouldn't it?

We all know Shristmas isn't really about christ anymore - or so we think. Fact is, despite inspiring such crass commercialism the likes of which frequently makes me sick around this kind of year, Christmas is still a time when most people think about those values that Christ, son of god or not, championed - ie, be nice to eachother. That isn't a solely Christian message.

so why should everybodys taxes go to a religous celerbrzation that excludes alot of people
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And how the bloody hell does it 'exclude a lot of people'? Anybody can celebrate it if they really want to. Besides, I think the vast majority of people in Britain are - if not Christian - wholly in support of Christmas.

On the one hand it's stupid to care about christmas lights being renamed. On the other hand it's stupid to rename them in the first place.
 
Personally I couldn't survive without a bacon sandwhich every other morning, and a sausage sandwhich on the days between.

Those Muslims don't know what they're missing!
 
---And how the bloody hell does it 'exclude a lot of people'? Anybody can celebrate it if they really want to. Besides, I think the vast majority of people in Britain are - if not Christian - wholly in support of Christmas.

Its a religous event, that shouldnt be sponsered by the state.
 
I have come to the conclusion that you are The Grinch.
 
Sulkdodds said:
I have come to the conclusion that you are The Grinch.
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That's why he was unsatisfied by the Short Recoil rendition of the Grinch song, and felt it necessary to make his own! :O
 
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