Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Que-Ever said:
Before people start getting on keira knightly and orlando bloom about how they can't act, I have official word that, somehow, out of pure coincidence, that actually every character they have ever played... never actually was meant to have a personality!
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Hey! She was great in Bend It Like Beckham!
 
I thought it was a great movie, saw it yesterday. Very original like the 1st. You guys stayed after the credits right :)
 
Ennui, wtf is a kraakeen?

Anybody saying the film is cliched as if it's a bad thing really should get a slap. It revels in cliches. It loves its cliches. It cherishes them and nourishes them. It brought them up as its own when they lost their parents in mysterious circumstances; it was their mentor and taught them in their growing years; it gave them encouragement when they set out to find their destiny; it died to save their best friends; it provided wise words of wisdom (it was black). It did all these things and more, and yet you would cheapen its devotion and its love. Shameful.
 
I thought through most of the movie that they were yelling "draaaaaaaaaaaagon!"....and why'd they have to go and kill those poor portugese guys? (at least I think they were portugese)

Some scenes that the movie could have done without(spoilers)
-squidman at the organ (why does he have a freaking pipe organ?) it was just so cheezy

-johnny depp versus natives throwing fruits. speaks for itself.

-johnny depp then surviving a 90 foot fall

-them continuing to fight on the wheel rather than the one with the key jumping off

-johnny depp versus kraacken (how the hell would that have saved the lifeboat?)

-random people in the woods holding candles

-the british officer guy having the heart (just how did he escape those flying dutchmen guys?)

-squidman being able to teleport at will

-johnny depp + blonde chick love affair (seriously, WTF?)

overall I just found the movie to be very confusing. The first one had all the charm of being original, this one was just a rehash of the same stuff played out in a confusing manner.

EDIT: the music, however, was excellent. who is it composed by?
 
theotherguy said:
-squidman being able to teleport at will
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I know right? So unrealistic. Since when can squid-crab-men just warp around like that?
 
Ok... kraken here. Life boat------------------------------------------------------------------------------> way over here. And it wasn't to save the lifeboat, it was to get rid of the kraken and jones for good.

AS for the people in the swamp (SWAMP) it was a funeral. DURR. I do not get how people didn't get that. You don't think sparrow only knew ONE person there? The one brit dude, he got away because... they just left him, didn't he? I don't remember.

Confusing? My ten year old sister got it. And she's dumber than my six year old brother. Who also got it.
 
My dad really wants to see this movie so I might go with him to see it. Looks like from most of the reviews that it is not as good as the 1rst one. :(
 
I only find it confusing because I forgot most of the first movie. There wasn't enough exposition explaining who the charachters were, what the black pearl was, how johnny depp ended up in that prison, etc. etc. I suppose I should have watched the movie more recentley. I didn't even get that the crew members were the former "bad guys" in the first movie until the middle of the movie.

I had no idea about davy jones, where he came from, why johnny depp had a debt to pay to him, why he was looking for the chest or why he was given the black spot in the first place.
 
theotherguy said:
I only find it confusing because I forgot most of the first movie. There wasn't enough exposition explaining who the charachters were, what the black pearl was, how johnny depp ended up in that prison, etc. etc. I suppose I should have watched the movie more recentley. I didn't even get that the crew members were the former "bad guys" in the first movie until the middle of the movie.

I had no idea about davy jones, where he came from, why johnny depp had a debt to pay to him, why he was looking for the chest or why he was given the black spot in the first place.
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Those last bits had nothing to do with the first movie... I didn't get them at first either, but mostly because of the actor's voices. But I got it eventually, by... context.
 
Davy Jones has no mention in the first movie. Everything having to do with him is contained in this one, which I won't spoil for everyone reading.

Nor is the entrance scene for Sparrow explained. We just assume that he's up to his usual insanity in the pursuit of something. (In this case the key drawing).
 
Davy Jones is gonna be one of the main villians in the third movie, btw. But don't tell anyone :shh:
 
I can answer some of theotherguy's questions:

theotherguy said:
-squidman at the organ (why does he have a freaking pipe organ?) it was just so cheezy
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Because he can!


theotherguy said:
-them continuing to fight on the wheel rather than the one with the key jumping off
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Don't think any of them ever actually got the key for long enough to think 'ah, now I've got the key I can get off this damned wheel'.

theothergy said:
-johnny depp versus kraacken (how the hell would that have saved the lifeboat?)
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It was after Depp and not the lifeboat.

theotherguy said:
-random people in the woods holding candles
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Funeral. :p

theotherguy said:
-the british officer guy having the heart (just how did he escape those flying dutchmen guys?)
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He dropped the chest to them and ran off, and they thought "ha, coward, he's given us the chest. Let's go." But Depp had already taken the heart from the chest and put it in his jar of land which Norrington Britguy stole and ran off with. So he surrendered the chest but not the heart.

theotherguy said:
-johnny depp + blonde chick love affair (seriously, WTF?)
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Come on, don't tell me you don't fancy him too.

theotherguy said:
EDIT: the music, however, was excellent. who is it composed by?
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Hans Zimmer, and you can buy it or download clips here!
 
theotherguy said:
just saw it. it was pretty hokey and stupid.
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You mean, "I didn't understand it, so that means the movie is stupid, definately not me, me clever hurhur".

:p
 
theotherguy said:
I only find it confusing because I forgot most of the first movie. There wasn't enough exposition explaining who the charachters were, what the black pearl was, how johnny depp ended up in that prison, etc. etc. I suppose I should have watched the movie more recentley. I didn't even get that the crew members were the former "bad guys" in the first movie until the middle of the movie.

I had no idea about davy jones, where he came from, why johnny depp had a debt to pay to him, why he was looking for the chest or why he was given the black spot in the first place.
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Spoilers... I guess:

William Turner's Dad is in the Black Pearl's storage... Thing talking about how Jack Sparrow made a deal with Davy Jones to be the captain of the Black Pearl for 30 years in exchange for his soul. The chest contained Davy Jones' still-beating heart, and legend said if you controlled the heart you controlled the sea (referring to the Cracken).

The Black Spot is supposed to tell people that their deal is almost up and they'll be getting a visit from Davy Jones soon. :eek:
 
Yeah, although I believe its 13 years, not 30. :D

SPOILER: Davy Jones is where the Black Pearl originally came from it would seem, since theres mention of his Kraken dragging it up from the deep.
 
Direwolf said:
Davy Jones has no mention in the first movie. Everything having to do with him is contained in this one, which I won't spoil for everyone reading.
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that is true, but if you remember from the first one they did talk a bit about him. It was not much but it was some back round info on Davy Jones.
 
Idonno >_< said:
that is true, but if you remember from the first one they did talk a bit about him. It was not much but it was some back round info on Davy Jones.
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Not really... they just mentioned "Davy Jones' Locker" which is a very common term for condeming someone to the depths, which is what happened to Boot Strap Bill.
 
I saw it this morning and it was alright. It seemed like they tried to pack in too much. At some points I was thinking, "wtf is going on here!?"

I enjoyed the action and the special effects. I'd give it a 7.5-8/10.

And Barbossa?!? WTF!?
 
I'll catch it on the interweb, not going to watch it in theaters though
 
Direwolf said:
Yeah, although I believe its 13 years, not 30. :D

SPOILER: Davy Jones is where the Black Pearl originally came from it would seem, since theres mention of his Kraken dragging it up from the deep.
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SPOILERS:

Wikipedia said:
She was apparently a sunken vessel named Wicked Wench (the ship in the Disneyland attraction the movies are based upon) when Jack made a deal with Davy Jones to have Davy Jones raise her from the deep as Jack's own vessel. In return, Jack would give Davy Jones his soul after 13 years of being captain (though Barbossa was captain of the Pearl for the majority of that time, the fact that Jack still referred to himself as 'Captain Jack Sparrow' for the entirety of the 13 years was good enough for Davy Jones to hold him to the deal).

Jack was captian of his merchant vessel (The Wicked Wench) under the employment of the East India Trading Co. One day Beckett orders him to pickup precious "cargo" in Africa to deliver it to the West Indies/Caribbean. When Jack discovers what the "cargo" is (slaves) and he turns back around to Africa and returns them home. For that, Beckett's men come and burn/sink his ship and brand him a pirate. After Jack escapes from prison, he vows to go get the Wench back from the bottom of the ocean, even if he's gotta drag it out with his hands. While in the water, he nearly drowns, and Davy Jones comes along and saves him. They make their 13 year deal, and Davy Jones raises the Wicked Wench from the depths and Jack renames it the Black Pearl.
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I thought it was fantastic. Apart from the ending. I was just sat there all like "D:" in the cinema whilst everyone else got up and left.
 
Dude, that was the best ending ever! I acted exactly the way they wanted me too with *gasp* Captain Barbossa! But how!? I must shell out more money to see the sequel!
 
hated this film.

Askaninja.com sums it up perfectly

'Wait a min there wasn't even a dead man in it'
 
is it just me, or was this incredibly similar to monkey island ?

guybrush threepwood = will turner
elaine marley = elizabeth swan
voodoo lady = voodoo lady (aka tia dalma)
murray = the little monkey
lechuch = barbossa

i could go on. ;)


2 guys finding sparrow's hat == 2 guys finding boots
going through a swamp on a small boat to get help from voodoo lady == exactly the same
murray being on the ship in the beginning of cmi and than ending up @ voodoo ladies' house == undead monkey going from black pearl to voodoo ladies' house


seriously, there are soo many things which are incredibly similar.
 
Haha, loads more fun than the first IMO. :D

Orlando Bloom's still a bit off though. :x
 
Que-Ever said:
I suppose you're right. Sorry, nothing for you to beat off to :/
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Yeah cause you have the slightest idea about my movie preference.

This movie sucked, its more hole than plot. The acting is subpar for the actors, the script dire, and the comedy less funny than the trailer for 'the breakup'. The CGI, while largely great, is let down by some ropey moments with the Kraken.

This is a movie pitched at the lowest possible level. The first one wasn't a bad little movie that reminded me of a Disney cartoon done real. This one really tried too be clever and came up very short.
 
I liked the movie. I could've sworn Captain Barbossa died in the first one though.
 
I'll probably not bother going to see it because I thought the first was pretty bleh at times anyway.
 
bam23 said:
I liked the movie. I could've sworn Captain Barbossa died in the first one though.
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He did, but with the imminent return of Mr Sparrow it appears death is not quite as permanent as is traditional.
 
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