Played Halo 2 for 10 hours straight and...

[Absinthe]

CS:S was never planned to be anything different from the original CS except for graphics and physics etc. :|

Never said it was planned to be anything else. That doesn't make it any less underwhelming.

I don't think of CS:S as the best MP ever made because the fact i have'nt even got it makes it quite hard to judge but i DO, however think of CS as the best and most popular MP ever made and its been around for god knows how many years now and still it sits firmly as the most popular MP game on the planet.

Why would valve alter the way it plays when the way it plays now is good? that would be stupid...they could chance ruining a game that has no faults.

So? It's still an old game, regardless of how well it's formula works. I only bring this up because you accuse Halo 2 of just being more of the same. Is Valve not guilty of this as well?

I personally think that CS is highly overrated and has many faults.

Halo2 isn't bringing anything new to the MP aspect. It never brought anything new to SP either. Its only popular because FPS are few and far between on consoles and it just so happens that Halo is a console FPS. Its quite the same as racing games are few and far between on PC's and without the support for a control pad they all suck. I don't even know of a good racing game on PC that was'nt released on multiplatform but i'm certain that if i ever find one it might be good but it will never compare to a console racing game (like GT4).

It may not be new when compared to PC games, but it is on the console scene.

Anyway my point is that Halo2 may very well be a good FPS|) but on the PC FPS radar its a mere blip and HL2 will make it look even worse than i already think it is.

Well, you just admitted that there are different standards when one compares a PC FPS to a console FPS.

So I ask: Why the stupid comparisons?

 

[CrazyHarij]

Who cares if Halo 2 isn't better than HL2, you can't deny both of the games are gonna pwn.

Indeed. People have different taste aswell, you can't convert everyone to like both games.

 

[Warbie]

resist the urge, it really is Halo , with a 2 added onto the end

That's all I want, though.

I'm bored of shooters that offer no challenge and are finished in a week. Halo took me ages to master on Legendary. By the sounds of it the sequal is even tougher.

And then there's co-op

 

[Foxtrot]

How is the AI?

 

[Cole]

and yet you fail to answer more important things..
You just dodge questinos....

CS is not a part of HL. Op4 and Blue Shift ARE part of HL, because they're based in the exact same timeframe and location in the same game world

Sven-Coop is technically based on the asme exact timeframe and location and in the same world... So its HL's multiplayer. But its a mod..

In his logic, that was HL's multiplayer.

Then what are you saying that mod is?

Please tell me what a mod adds to a game. If i make a mod that tweaks a weopons damage in HL2, please tell me what the adds to HL2, and....

They want to make a game

So your just saying i wanted to make a game, no i wanted to tweak a game!

baby girl

You say there is something bad about girls?

You can't take into account non-Valve products when evaluating one.

Well I just did, what you gonna do about it? Sit there and bitch at your monitor at my post?

You are not making a fundamental change to the HL2 package that you purchase

I bought HL Platinum Edition, and does that mean... TFC, CS, HL, OP4, Blue Shift, TFC are all part of HL? But...I believe you don't believe that.. then... what do you believe?

The user-made modifications are not Valve property

Never said they were....

I don't think you have a clue as to what you're going on about.

I don't think you understand me.

Why does valve add modding support? Every company, even valve loves money. They simply hope a insane mod will come along, people will buy HL2 to play that mod. Thus what im saying is, Mods add onto the game money-wise, and that great mod can technically(not physically) be considered HL2's multiplayer.

Those are my opinons, you can have your own but don't try and change mine because you can't.

 

[destrukt]

damn you people and your early-selling shops.

 

[Alig]

So? It's still an old game, regardless of how well it's formula works. I only bring this up because you accuse Halo 2 of just being more of the same. Is Valve not guilty of this as well?

I personally think that CS is highly overrated and has many faults.

CS was at one time a one of its kind. It was CS that got duped.

CS isn't overrated. Its a MP game you can just become familiar with in a couple minutes. Its basic MP but it still takes a long ass time to become "1337" as some would say. It has balance which is more than i can say for alot of MP games. (obviously it has cheaters but name a MP that does'nt. Even MMO's have cheaters)

It may not be new when compared to PC games, but it is on the console scene.

Well, you just admitted that there are different standards when one compares a PC FPS to a console FPS.

So I ask: Why the stupid comparisons?

I didn't start a HL2 Vs Halo2 thread, or any of that type of thread on this forum. Im simply arguing back that Halo2 does'nt compare to PC FPS. If people was'nt saying shit like "Halo2 is the best, it makes HL2 look shit in every way possible" on a HL2 forum then i would'nt need to back PC FPS up or even type this out.

 

[Warbie]

Im simply arguing back that Halo2 does'nt compare to PC FPS.

Many, including me, would disagree.

It's been a long time since we've had pc shooters on par with Half-Life, SS2 and Deus Ex. I enjoyed Halo just as much, if not more, than any pc fps of recent years (which, when we face it, haven't been anything special. It's not as though there are loads of decent pc shooters competing for our time now is it?)

 

[NeLi]

Fanboy wars.

Fantastic.