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Ok I have had the same computer for a few years now and have been constantly upgrading it. I now have a widescreen monitor, top range sound card, a decent video card that should last hopefully another year (GeForce 6600 GT), 1GB RAM and something like 120GB hard drive space. However, the only thing that is lacking and that is causing my now lousy FPS is my processor. Its only a mere 1.67Ghz, and I want to change it to a 2.2Ghz. Is it possible to change the processor of your computer without losing anything on it or without buying an entirely new computer?
 
Cpus (processors) are built for different cpu sockets (socket A, socket 478, socket 775, socket 939, socket AM2, etc). A mainboard supports only 1 socket most of the time. If you have an old mainboard it won't support the newest line of processors, and then you have to buy a new mainboard aswell. 99% of the time, you have to reformat your harddisk aswell when you buy a new mainboard (because of a different IDE/SATA controller). Just a different cpu won't give any problems.

What processor do you have? That will indicate what slocket it is for.
 
That means your motherboard is made for socket A processors. If you want a proper cpu today, you will have to upgrade your mainboard aswell. Today's sockets are AM2 (AMD) and 775 (Intel).

I don't know if the Athlon XP cpus are still being made (I believe not), but even the fastest version of it (the 3200+) isn't gonna cut it with the latest games.
 
Well, your card is a 6600 GT so probably not.

What slot is it? AGP? Or Pci-Express?

If it's the first one, then I'm afraid your going to have to get a new gfx card aswell.
 
Yeah and then you need new ram too... etc etc.. The X360 is a good alternative.
 
Done and dusted, I persuaded my dad to pitch in the money to buy a new dual core processor computer.

ACER Power S285 Pentium 4 3.0GHz Processor with a 80GB HardDrive for £230 without VAT. It comes with a keyboard and mouse, but the catch on the price is that is comes with a basic graphics card, no screen and only 256mb RAM. However, I have a spare flat screen monitor, its only costs £50 pounds for 1GB of RAM and I am going to take back the video card I have now to help with the cost of a new PCI-E video card.

Thanks for the help anyway ;)
 
I got an amd athlon (old) it origanly ran at 1.6Ghz and im currently testing it and overclocking it, so far im um to a stable 1.9Ghz and still testing.
 
Not a Pentium 4 D:

Either get an X2 or a Conroe.
 
Ok I have had the same computer for a few years now and have been constantly upgrading it. I now have a widescreen monitor, top range sound card, a decent video card that should last hopefully another year (GeForce 6600 GT), 1GB RAM and something like 120GB hard drive space. However, the only thing that is lacking and that is causing my now lousy FPS is my processor. Its only a mere 1.67Ghz, and I want to change it to a 2.2Ghz. Is it possible to change the processor of your computer without losing anything on it or without buying an entirely new computer?

If u want to stay in the Skt A range of processors & want a cheap boost in overall system performance get the AMD Barton 3200+ for around £70, It runs at a clock speed of 2.2GHZ, with 512Mb L2 Cache
 
Too late late, already ordered this new computer, I actually had to pay £280 for it for the VAT added on to it. But its dual core and runs at a whoping 3Ghz, once I put a good video card in and knock the RAM up, Im sorted.
 
Too late late, already ordered this new computer, I actually had to pay £280 for it for the VAT added on to it. But its dual core and runs at a whoping 3Ghz, once I put a good video card in and knock the RAM up, Im sorted.

so what comp did u order? For that price it cant be that great.
 
Ehm, it's not dual core. And if I'd have it today, I'd upgrade as fast as possible.


Edit - also, it doesn't look like it has an AGP slot. I don't think it's possible to put a graphics card in it.


Edit2 - It does not have an AGP slot. You CANNOT use your 6600GT.
 
Its a Pentium 4 Celeron D Processor, I thought stood for Duel, plus its processor speed is 3Ghz and from all the seraching I have been doing, only the dual core processors are the ones capable of reaching those speeds, the highest processing speed I came across was a 3.2Ghz Processor in a computer worth £1,200. I know the 6600 GT wont fit in this computer because it contains PCI and PCI-E slots instead of AGP, that is why I am going to take it back and trade it for a PCI card of the same value. Other than that, it just needs a boost in RAM.
 
FYI the PCI slot is slow and they only make low end cards for it. Make sure you get a PCI-Express card.
 
FYI the PCI slot is slow and they only make low end cards for it. Make sure you get a PCI-Express card.

Yeah Ill just be sticking with the PCI-E cards
 
It only has a PCIe x1 slot... That will bottleneck even that graphics card.

I think you'd do better by getting a cheap Asrock mainboard in a cheap case with a proper PSU, getting a new cheap dual core cpu, keeping your current ram and keeping your current graphics card. Unless ofcourse you or no one you know can build a computer.
 
Pentium D?

D:

It's baddddd. Very baddddd.

Just because it's 3ghz doesn't mean it's very good.
 
Yeah any dual core cpu (other than pentium D) will blow that thing out of the water.

How much money are you allowed to spend?


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This would do WAY better than the crap you are about to buy. The cpu is as fast as the AMD X2 4600+
If you have DDR400 ram in your current pc, you can use that.
 
Ok after discussing this with my dad, we have decided against buying it, and instead, completely rebuilding this old computer we have, this computer is actually my dads and he wont let me upgrade it lol. This other computer is a Pentium 3 so its gonna be pretty built from scratch, to start with, its need a motherboard with a good cpu. Suggestions?
 
Just start from scratch.
 
Around £280, thats monthly savings from work so I wont to it be on something worthwile, I could wager a bit more from my dad though
 
You could always skimp on the graphics card until DX10 comes around.
 
He can't use the AGP 6600 on a PCI-E mobo.

All the latest mobos as far as I know only have PCI-E slots.

Pretty decent rig there but not sure about the PSU. Is it made by Antec also?
 
The Asrock one has a PCIe x4 and an AGP x8 slot. Also supports DDR400 and DDR2.
 
Ah right. Just noticed :P

It says x16.

So yeah. The AGP 6600 would work fine.
 
... if he's allowed to use it. It's in his pc.

I thought I read somewhere that it only has a PCIe x4 slot. It doesn't say either on the asrock website, and I don't trust retailers on it.

Edit: Here.
The ASRock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard offers AGP 8X/4X capability along with PCI Express X4 graphics performance.
 
I wouldn't be suprised if it's not x4.

I would go for a straight PCi-E board as they cost around 50 pound.
 
Yeah thats about the estimate I came up to with the equipment needed to build the new computer and I just dont have sort of money, GOD DAMN PRICY EQUIPMENT!

There must be a computer somewhere worth around £300 that will enable me to run today's games with decent graphics settings and with a decent FPS. Im not looking to make a Gaming-God PC, just something that will allow me to play games with an FPS higher than average 25, and a PC that I can just gradually up date as I get more money.

That is why I think I will go with the computer I started with, it may not look like much now, but at least it contains the motherboard I need so I can upgrade it gradually.
 
Yeah thats about the estimate I came up to with the equipment needed to build the new computer and I just dont have sort of money, GOD DAMN PRICY EQUIPMENT!

There must be a computer somewhere worth around £300 that will enable me to run today's games with decent graphics settings and with a decent FPS. Im not looking to make a Gaming-God PC, just something that will allow me to play games with an FPS higher than average 25, and a PC that I can just gradually up date as I get more money.

That is why I think I will go with the computer I started with, it may not look like much now, but at least it contains the motherboard I need so I can upgrade it gradually.

:| It's about the worst you can get for the money. It's not compatible with proper dual core cpus (pentium D is painfully outdated now), you can't put a decent graphics card in it and it only supports DDR400/533 (3gb max).

So no, this pc is not upgradable at all.

Can you or or can you not use the 6600gt? If not, you could buy a very cheap AGP card for your dads pc and use the 6600gt yourself.
 
The 6600GT is still a very highly rated card so yes I would still like to use it. I have still got my previous video card to stick into my dads. So is there a computer (UK online store), that is cheap (£400 is not cheap), has a decent processor, supports PCI-E and AGP (so I can use my current video card for now) and has at least 256mb RAM in it, preferably 512mb, and most importantly, is upgradable. I have been searching and searching but I really just dont know if I am finding the right computer, you guys seem to know a lot more than I do.
 
The 6600GT is still a very highly rated card so yes I would still like to use it. I have still got my previous video card to stick into my dads. So is there a computer (UK online store), that is cheap (£400 is not cheap), has a high end processor, supports PCI-E and AGP (so I can use my current video card for now) and has at least 256mb RAM in it, preferably 512mb, and is upgradable. I have been searching and searching but I really just dont know if I am finding the right computer, you guys seem to know a lot more than I do.

Your asking for a lot that is under £400, I don;t think they do mobo's nowadays that have PCI-e and AGP ports
 
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