Processor?

The Brick said:
The Asrock 775DUAL-VSTA supports AGP and PCIe. It also supports DDR400 and DDR2 if you can use your old ram (there's no performance gain with DDR2). It has a socket 775 socket, meaning it can eat Pentium D (not recommended) and Core 2 Duo (very highly recommended). Get that motherboard with a Core 2 Duo E6300, use your old ram and graphics card, buy a nice case with a good PSU and you're set.

Should be about £230 max. You will have a very decent pc with the ability to upgrade the videocard with a nice PCIe one.


Btw, it was the first thing I recommended... http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2053227#post2053227
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Ok I shall buy that as that suites my needs perfectly, what processor should I get again?
 
The Intel Core 2 Duo E6300. I said it in that post too hehe.
 
lol cheers, doesn't look too fast for dual core, only 1.86Ghz for core frequency, or is that not the speed of it?
 
clock speed is almost irrelevent on a dule core... or so I've been told.
 
Just to assure you, that cpu is about as fast as the AMD X2 4600+ and faster than the Pentium D 3.4 ghz (even though it's running at 1.86ghz).

When you're not happy with your cpu performance anymore, you can wisely upgrade the mainboard to one that overclocks really well. These new Intel cpus are known to overclock more than 100% (yep 3.7ghz).
 
kacation_man said:
clock speed is almost irrelevent on a dule core
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Agreed.

It's not only about clock speed - hasn't been for a while. A 6300 at 1.8 ghz is a very fast chip (far better than anything you could have got on that previous motherboard)
 
Ok im convinced lol, just building a picture of equipment I need to buy now, got the motherboard and cpu you advised on, plus 1GB RA, case that supports 430W power supply, 430W power supply, DVD Drive so far, Its come to around 392 on this particular site. Is there anything Im missing?
 
If you could stretch to a beefier psu from a well known brand it'd be a good move - you don't want to have to fork out for a new psu when you decide to upgrade/overclock.

I've had good experiences with Seasonic, Enermax and Seasonic.
 
PSU? Is that PowerSUpply? I feel stupid if it aint ^^
 
Will PSI graphics cards still be as good as the PCI-E cards if you double or even triple them up?
 
I assume you mean PCI. And no, there just isn't bandwith enough. Current high end models are believed to struggle with AGP x8 (I don't know if that is true), and PCI has only 1/16th of that bandwith.

I don't know what you mean by tripling them up?
 
Well I have seen some motherboards that have 3 PCI slots available
 
Ehm, big no no there. That's not how that stuff works. First of all, all PCI cards available are really slow. Secondly, you can't just make two gfx cards work together. Special systems like SLI and Crossfire can pull it off with 2 cards, but there's nothing like multiple GPU systems with PCI or AGP.

Even if it were possible, and effeciency would be 100%, you'd need about 32 PCI slots to have the same bandwith as a single PCIe x16 slot.
 
Point taken lol, well on saturday im finally heading out with my dad around the shops to buy all the equipment, unless its more expensive than on the internet, to which Ill just buy it off the internet. Ill let you know how it goes and if I get a good computer running again.

Thanks for everyones help though ;)
 
Ok my mind has YET AGAIN changed, honestly I never usually change my mind about something this many times, but thats upgrading PCs for ya!

I have decided to get the barton for my current computer so i can run all the games that come up till xmas at decent rates, then at xmas get a 360. I am doing this as it has just hit me, the speed of which computer's are improving. They have only really started getting into dual-core processors, and already they are talking about quad-core processors, and some sort of microsoft program called vista that apparntly you will need to run all of the future games? I personally think it is ridiculous, you spend a lot of money upgrading, and then a few months later its already out of date, well no thanks. Its just the PC companies trying to drain as much money out of the customers as possible, and if they think it will keep people upgrading, they are sadly, sadly mistaken. Im going to the 360, at least then I dont have to ****ing well upgrade every ****ing 3 months.

If you are smart, you will ditch the PCs and go for the next-gen consoles, going down the road of the PCs spells skint, unless you're rich.

Peace
 
Actually, there's no worry about a big 'quad core update'. Every motherboard that supports Core 2 Duo will support Core 2 Quad. So if you buy a cheap E6300, you can just buy a similar Core 2 Quad somewhere next year. Perhaps along with a DX10 card.

Atleast that's my plan for my pc.
 
Value wise I think you've made a smart move there, Shift. If you are set on getting a Barton see if you can find a mobile Barton - they're intended for use in laptops but work perfectly in any mobo that supports a Barton. The advantage being they are the best of the best Bartons around - they run cooler and faster (even the cheapest is better than a xp3200)
 
I have finally won a bid for the barton and expect it early next week. Although I have never changed processors around before. Is it simply a matter of taking yours off the motherboard and sticking the other one on? And will it upset anything on my computer, since my dad is rather concerned about it like wiping everything on his computer lol
 
You shouldn't need to reformat the PC. Give the heatsink on the CPU a little twist back and forth to loosen it. On one side there should be a place to put a flat head screwdriver. Just push down carefully and pull the latch out from the heatsink. You don't want to slip and score the board. Then you can just take the heatsink off. Lift the CPU lever and take the old CPU out. Clean off the bottom of the heatsink with rubbing alcohol and a lint-free cloth so it is clean. Then put the new CPU in the socket, lever down. Either have a NEW thermal pad on the heatsink or apply a paper thin layer of thermal grease. If you use thermal grease I would recommend something that is not conductive. That way if you get it on other parts of the CPU it won't bust it.
Arctic Silver instructions
Then put the heatsink on and your done with the install.

Just make sure the CPU is running at the right speed in the bios. Could go into windows and use CPU-Z to check.

If the new CPU doesn't want to work you can put the old CPU back in if you need.
 
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