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KagePrototype said:An even better reason to not ask:
Arguing over musical taste is pointless.
I don't like country music. Doesn't mean I need to find a list of supposedly crap country singers. I just don't like it, it doesn't appeal to me or my tastes. No reason in arguing with me over it.
Your post was almost as stupid as the first post in this thread.Lil' Timmy said:**** each and **** his own too! if you don't like rap then you're just a stupid white kid.. chances are you're a stupid white kid even if you do like rap. point is, you're a stupid white kid, so i'll put my dick in your ear and tell you to **** what you heard!
i tilt my 40 to Russel Jones, aka Big Baby Jesus, the ODB, Dirt McGirt.
we go back like babies with pacifiers ;(
Hey, no disrespect taken.. People who like quality dance music hate the mainstream commercial shit more than you do, believe me.Kristafon said:mainstream dance crap (not disrespect to those who do geninuley like electronica)
Kristafon said:Thats true, aslong as the person actualy enjoys what theyre listening too its all good. What annoys me however is when little girls like bands because they have a crush on them, even when the music is really bad, and townies/chavers/neds who all listen to the same mainstream dance crap (not disrespect to those who do geninuley like electronica) because if they dont they get called "dirty greebos" and then go around listening too the same repetetive crap while not actually enjoying it. Also these "single junkies" who dont realise there is some quality, if not better, material on an artists albumn and wont make there mind up about what bands they actualy like.
point: you're an idiot.rap sucks
point:And most rap does suck. It's all commercialized now, which really sucks because the rappers that are actually good, such as Kyprios (who's the only good rapper I know of), get overshadowed by all the big talentless rappers and their equally- or less-talented protegés (i.e. Lloyd Banks). Not to mention the countless cross-collaboration between every rapper in existence.
Gangsta rap has long been dead.Gangsta rap sucks...!!
point:Rap is just drums with the rapping ontop, if its actually got an melody that counts as hip hop. Boring and tuneless as far as im concerned. However I like rock with rap ontop like Rage and the Chillies.
Point:thats because the only 'skill' it requires is talking. rap is an overblown afterschool program for the inner-city ghettos.
point:I agree. F**kin Tupac was a fag but that's harsh he got shot.
point:Most rap is shit especially when theyre just talking about making money and pimpin hos and just generally trying to sound hard.. but there ARE some quality songs.
A couple? Hardly.No Limit said:point:
yes, lets take a couple songs in the last 10 years and say all rap is like those few songs. This way we can all pretend to have a good reason for saying rap sucks.
How about instead you give me examples of songs that prove what you were talking about?Reaktor4 said:A couple? Hardly.
And when i say rap im really talking about the commercial shit. But from what ive heard of the real stuff, the majority of it is similar anyway. If you can recommend me some good shit with the sole purpose behind the song not being them trying to make out that theyre the hardest people thats ever lived on the planet, go ahead.
Offtopic: I recommend everyone that is skeptical of Eminem or rap to at least give the new Eminem CD a listen.It's funny
I remember back one year when daddy had no money
Mommy wrapped the Christmas presents up
And stuck 'em under the tree and said some of 'em were from me
Cuz daddy couldn't buy 'em
I'll never forget that Christmas I sat up the whole night crying
Cuz daddy felt like a bum, see daddy had a job
But his job was to keep the food on the table for you and mom
And at the time every house that we lived in
Either kept getting broke into and robbed
Or shot up on the block and your mom was saving money for you in a jar
Tryna start a piggy bank for you so you could go to college
Almost had a thousand dollars till someone broke in and stole it
And I know it hurt so bad it broke your momma's heart
And it seemed like everything was just startin' to fall apart
Mom and dad was arguin' a lot so momma moved back
On the Chalmers in the flat one bedroom apartment
And dad moved back to the other side of 8 Mile on Novara
And that's when daddy went to California with his CD and met Dr. Dre
And flew you and momma out to see me
But daddy had to work, you and momma had to leave me
Then you started seeing daddy on the T.V. and momma didn't like it
And you and Laney were to young to understand it
Papa was a rollin' stone, momma developed a habit
And it all happened too fast for either one of us to grab it
I'm just sorry you were there and had to witness it first hand
Cuz all I ever wanted to do was just make you proud
Now I'm sittin in this empty house, just reminiscing
Lookin' at your baby pictures, it just trips me out
To see how much you both have grown, it's almost like you're sisters now
Wow, guess you pretty much are and daddy's still here
Laney I'm talkin' to you too, daddy's still here
I like the sound of that, yeah
It's got a ring to it don't it?
Shh, momma's only gone for the moment
No Limit said:As for good music, try Dr. Dre, Eminem, Wu Tang, Outkast, Trick Daddy, Bone Thugs, Tupac, B.I.G., Nas, Afroman and so much more.
Read my first reply a couple posts up, once you do that hopefully you will see how you are also an idiot.Absinthe said:K... I don't like any of those, sans one or two Outkast songs.
And Eminem? LOATHE.
Erm.. that was pretty much what i was talking about lolNo Limit said:How about instead you give me examples of songs that prove what you were talking about?
As for good music, try Dr. Dre, Eminem, Wu Tang, Outkast, Trick Daddy, Bone Thugs, Tupac, B.I.G., Nas, Afroman and so much more.
I dislike rock/metal/punk way, waaay more than hip hop. I DO like good hip hop/rap. Im just saying there isnt enough of it. A very good example of what i mean would be grandmaster flash - the message which kicks ass i think (the words mostly, the rest sounds a bit too 80s for me). Or even the new version of run dmc - its like that, although thats very commercial sounding to me and i like the beats more than the words. The main point is theyre not just talking shit in those songs, quite the opposite in fact.You are also completely ignoring the background of rap music. Punk, rock, whatever you listen to originated from mostly rich people. These people won't see making a million dollars as such a huge deal as they were never truly poor. Almost every rapper was living in conditions most of us can't imagine. Because of this of course they will occasionally point out how much money they made and how proud of it they are. You see it as braggin about their money; however, inner city kids with nothing see it as hope. If the big tymers who had nothing now drive around in Hummers with 22"s why can't they? It's all about relating to the music. If you don't relate to it and don't like it that's fine; howeverm you have no right to trash it just as I don't have the right to trash your music (even if it would be easy to do).
I was actually trying to point out some rappers that you can look up and see that they don't only rap about slapping hoes and money.Reaktor4 said:Erm.. that was pretty much what i was talking about lol
Thats a bit like me saying "you wanna know some quality trance, here listen to this dj sammy/ian van dahl/darude/alice deejay cd", no? (except for tupac probably)
The problem is what you define as good and what I define as good. To me a rapper talking about being poor and then coming up is good, to you that might not be as good. The problem I think you and all others that don't like rap have is that you don't actually listen. You hear one or 2 songs and think all rap is that way. You would be amazed at how many rap songs talk about real issues like the example I posted from Eminem. You can call me an Eminem fan boy as I probably am but you have to understand I work with hip hop a lot. Many times I spend days in front of a computer and other equipment trying to produce a quality beat to be used on a rap song. You have no idea how offensive it is when some idiot that knows nothing about rap or production says there is no talent that goes in to that.I dislike rock/metal/punk way, waaay more than hip hop. I DO like good hip hop/rap. Im just saying there isnt enough of it. A very good example of what i mean would be grandmaster flash - the message which kicks ass i think (the words mostly, the rest sounds a bit too 80s for me). Or even the new version of run dmc - its like that, although thats very commercial sounding to me and i like the beats more than the words. The main point is theyre not just talking shit in those songs, quite the opposite in fact.
No way, i know exactly how offensive it is. I produce myself (although i am shit) and it pisses me off so much when people say the same thing about trance or techno, or even when they call trance techno because they dunno wtf theyre talking about. I never ever said rapping or producing takes no talent.No Limit said:I was actually trying to point out some rappers that you can look up and see that they don't only rap about slapping hoes and money.
The problem is what you define as good and what I define as good. To me a rapper talking about being poor and then coming up is good, to you that might not be as good. The problem I think you and all others that don't like rap have is that you don't actually listen. You hear one or 2 songs and think all rap is that way. You would be amazed at how many rap songs talk about real issues like the example I posted from Eminem. You can call me an Eminem fan boy as I probably am but you have to understand I work with hip hop a lot. Many times I spend days in front of a computer and other equipment trying to produce a quality beat to be used on a rap song. You have no idea how offensive it is when some idiot that knows nothing about rap or production says there is no talent that goes in to that.
I wasn't aiming the no talent comment at you, just at some of the idiots in this thread that said this.Reaktor4 said:No way, i know exactly how offensive it is. I produce myself (although i am shit) and it pisses me off so much when people say the same thing about trance or techno, or even when they call trance techno because they dunno wtf theyre talking about. I never ever said rapping or producing takes no talent.
No Limit said:Read my first reply a couple posts up, once you do that hopefully you will see how you are also an idiot.
Also, I highly doubt that you ever actually heard songs from the artists I posted other than a couple released ones.
Yo sometimes the road to the truth is
So elusive it's confusin
And reality becomes illusion
If I showed the masses where we was at or where we was goin
I'd shatter the social balance of the world as we know it
I'm talkin bout the grand deception
Of nineteen forty-seven
When our souls were sold to the heavens
For technologically advanced weapons
Crystal enhanced, brain implants and mind control methods
MJ-12 is not majestic
In the focal point of our promise on this planet is not domestic
You can accept it or be stupid and be a skeptic
Or fail to recognize the secret society's deathwish
Ninety-seven percent of our presidents were masons
Responsible for launderin trillions of dollars from the nation
For the construction of underground military installations
Abductions and coward mutilations
Experiments on human patients
Can take place in several subterrainean bases
A hundred and fifty stories below a basement
With knowledge of genetic information
You need to fear science not Satan
Cause through the manipulation of certain biological agents
They create strange creations
Top secret special operations
Low frequency sounds and lasers
People like Carl Sagan that didnt believe in the Drake equation
We're tryin to keep western civilization on the need-to-know basis
Well you need to know that this is a game
And we being betrayed and played in the worst way
Tune in to channel zero (8X)
Yo the holy scripts from Genesis 126
Says let us make man in our image under our likeness
First of all whos they?
You see if God was truly a single entity thats not what he would say
We as the Eloheem
Gods and goddesses
Possess a marvelous remonsterous subconscience
Lifeforms that speak in very high pitched sounds and squeaks
Shorts likhado clicks and beeps
A highly advanced form of speech
Even though to us it seems like they only chatterin they teeth
They used to swim deep in the oceans beneath
Till they fins transformed into limbs and they started to creep
Then they evolved into mammals with feet
And walked right from the shorelines onto the beach
They used gravity
Cuz this actually the only force around
They could slow time and the speed of light down
The energy grid network
Open the gateway from earth
To any point in the universe
Livin organisms and various
Geomagnetic gravitational
Anomaly areas
Space expedition teams in the lunar regions
Reported seeing dissapyramids and tetrahedrons
Liquid filled shoes, is what they used
To walk across the moon without leavin a clue
Of where they been for the past twenty three billion years
Before life on the surface even appeared
I hope you become aware what Im spittin in ya ear
Was intended to stimulate your left brains hemisphere
I know it sounds weird
All these motha****in answers to questions to the grand deception
thorvale the red said:Yes, I must agree with the majority of all you around here. Rap just plain sucks nowadays. Some guy with 3 or 4 teeth talking into a mic about committing rape and doing drugs to a randomly generated beat in Fruity Loops for 4 minutes.
Mad flava1!!!! Got that record deal yet?Murray_H said:Yo i said rap don't suck
You talk muck
It's really cool
Just like school
I had a face
Lost it in a race
I really miss it
I don't have a nose
Sausage, saus, sauasge rolls
Sausage, saus, sauasge rolls
Put them in your hair
Eat them
I took a boy to the disco
He said photosynthesis is catalysed by rubsico
I shot him with a big fat gun
I am now on the run
I had a face
Lost it in a race
I really miss it
I don't have a nose
Sausage, saus, sauasge rolls
Sausage, saus, sauasge rolls
Put them in your hair
Eat them
That's my first and last rap
No Limit said:Oh for christ sake :dozey: Look child, go and make a beat in fruity loops in 4 minutes. If it sounds good I will say that rap suxx!!!!11 However, if you can't do it I expect you to add "I'm a ****ing idiot" to your sig using the largest font possible. Deal?
Are you insane? We just had a discussion go on for pages on how much skill and effort is put in to a rap song. You post a stupid ass remark saying all rap is is some guy talking to a mic about raping sluts over a beat that was made in 4 minutes in fruity loops. I feel like nothing I say will get through to you as you don't have the mental capacity for it.thorvale the red said:Thank you for that comment! Just shows mature are when someone posts their opinion, especially when it had nothing to do with you in the first place. You must feel very special. :thumbs:
Oh, by the way, I do own Fruity Loops, and I must say, it's a great program.
Wasnt me you had that argument withNo Limit said:I wasn't aiming the no talent comment at you, just at some of the idiots in this thread that said this.
I'm actually amazed that we can agree on this as I think I had a heated argument with you about eminem and figured you were closed minded. At least now I have some respect for you .
I havnt finished in tune in over 3 years. Got loads of unfinished shit and most of it isnt worth listening to. Maybe if i make something decent ill post it but thats doubtful because i dont take producing seriously any more, i just do it for fun now and again.You should start a new thread with some of your productions. I am getting ready to release a sample CD of my beats and will release it here once it's complete.
Oh you must be sooo ****ing hard. Seriously youre as bad as the wiggers.thorvale the red said:I'm more of a Death Metal guy....and for you "gangstas" out there, no I'm not a "goth". I just like music that you can kick someone's ass to.
These tasteless jokes About big dicks and condiminiums Wont amount to shit except Maybe comfortable living But fast living is fast Taking in these fast times Fast rhymes Making dollars With no messages of sour great Stepped on by us Intelectually Stimulated folk With no jokes
You saying a beat is made in 4 minutes in Fruity Loops is not an opinion, it is stupidity and to me personally it is offensive. We had an entire discussion about how much effort is put in to a song and then you posted your "opinion". If your opinion was simply "I don't like rap" I wouldn't have said anything, but since you offended me I will get on your ass over it :O.thorvale the red said:Ok, this is getting a bit out of control. I posted my opinion (if you can read those two words). No reason to get on my ass about it. The death metal thing wasn't saying I'm "harcore" or whatever, I just like that kind of music. I personally think it's perfect for kicking someones ass to. Is there something wrong with that? See, it's people like you who make stating your own opinion a very difficult thing to do. We each have our own opinion. I respect your opinion, as well as everyone else's. Don't take these things so seriously. Besides, this thread was started by someone who apparently shares my opinion. So just lighten up, and no hard feelings.
Again, this is not fully true. Look through some of the lyrics of some of the new rap songs out and you will see most of them have nothing to do with drugs, sex, or pimping. I will admit that drugs and sex are a large part of a lot of rap music, but you have to understand that drugs and sex are large part of our younger culture. And our drug and sex culture is what infulances rap music, not the other way around as some want you to believe. Rap music is pretty much about what people can relate to, not some fantasy world filled with love and happy times. Many people don't like that, but rap music is on a rise and has been for the last decade and I think the more people that start to understand it the more people will actually listen to it.I like many types of music, and hip-Hop is one of those, not the mainstream one though, because its true all they do is talk about sex, drugs, and pimping, which bugs me.
No Limit said:You saying a beat is made in 4 minutes in Fruity Loops is not an opinion, it is stupidity and to me personally it is offensive. We had an entire discussion about how much effort is put in to a song and then you posted your "opinion". If your opinion was simply "I don't like rap" I wouldn't have said anything, but since you offended me I will get on your ass over it :O.
thorvale the red said:The fact that I offended you as a person just makes me laugh even harder at this thread. It amuses me, how such a little statement (which really is an opinion, according to the proper English language) made over the internet can offend you. Just because I offend you by accident with my opinion (wasn't even talking to you in the first place), doesn't mean you have to make a stupid insult and attempt to offend me. As far as the "entire discussion", I really don't give a damn about who said what, I posted my opinion anyway. Well, I guess I'm done talking here. This thread has become too old and useless.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence
thorvale the red said:Yes, I must agree with the majority of all you around here. Rap just plain sucks nowadays. Some guy with 3 or 4 teeth talking into a mic about committing rape and doing drugs to a randomly generated beat in Fruity Loops for 4 minutes.