RDKF leaked

[ironclad]

Emporio has cracked rag doll kung fu?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emporio


What do you think of this no steam group?

Talk to the people directly. I won't post the link, but www . csconditionzero is a hint. I myself am going to represent the "Steam Fanclub" as best I can...

 

[ailevation]

:cheers: Wow, that's some pretty jazz. They have their own Wiki page!

 

[AmishSlayer]

Yeah, it leaked a couple days ago. I don't know how they do it...must be an inside source with some reviewers somewhere.

 

[Reaktor4]

let them do what they want. if valve doesnt care enough to do something about it, why should anyone else?

 

[Sparta]

Thats a real shame. This isn't a game made by a big developer. This in an independently made game.

This isn't "giving it to the man" or any of that shit like when people leak games from EA or anything. This is just killing the industry.

 

[Sui]

Thats a real shame. This isn't a game made by a big developer. This in an independently made game.

This isn't "giving it to the man" or any of that shit like when people leak games from EA or anything. This is just killing the industry.

Exactly. If any of you "happen" to stumble across it, make sure you buy it on steam when it's released.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Emporio are a bunch of morons. I speak from first-hand experience on this.

 

[Kangy]

My honest opinion? They should be chained to trucks so to be dragged behind them, naked, and driven around while everyone gathers around and flogs their mutilated bodies.

 

[Lucid]

Pathetic... Stealing from a guy who just wanted to make a little profit from all of his hard work...

****ers.

 

[Xune]

The game is roughly £8 give or take and is made by a small team in their spare time. No one should feel justified in downloading this game for free.

My honest opinion? They should be chained to trucks so to be dragged behind them, naked, and driven around while everyone gathers around and flogs their mutilated bodies.

Don't be an idiot, no one deserves that.

 

[Chris D]

Frankly, they're a bunch of ****s.

I partly blame Valve, however. They're obviously not being careful about who they're giving review copies to. The only possible way Emporio could get this game is if they had a Steam account where Valve had manually added the RDKF Review game to their games list, and then manually added their IP address to the relevant content server.

 

[Kyorisu]

Being the maker of the game I'd be pissed. From Valve's point of view though, it's no big loss.

Many people using these illegal version would never buy the game to begin with. Theres a chance that some may buy it, but that highly unlikley.

 

[VictimOfScience]

Geez, that's exactly the kind of crap that I am talking about when I talk about the warez kiddies being extremely bad for the industry as a whole and how the concept of "Intellectual Property" is totally foreign to them. Developers who have to go through big publishers realize that their cut of the profits will be small, but their exposure will be larger, whereas if they self-publish, they might see more of the profits, but might not reach as large a potential audience. Its a well-known double-edged sword.

My honest opinion? They should be chained to trucks so to be dragged behind them, naked, and driven around while everyone gathers around and flogs their mutilated bodies.

Dude, that's an incredibly sick thing to say about anyone. The so-called "Happy Face Killer," Keith Hunter Jesperson, used to drag the bodies of women behind his 18-wheeler to grind them into non-existence essentially after strangling and reviving them numerous times. The accounts of these crimes that he gives in his diaries are disturbing in the extreme, so please consider this before making such a horrendously hideous statement.

 

[roofles!!1]

you guys know that Kangy was probably just joking, right? (Please tell me you are, or else I agree with these people you really are sick lol).
anyways yeah that sucks about RDKF

 

[VictimOfScience]

you guys know that Kangy was probably just joking, right? (Please tell me you are, or else I agree with these people you really are sick lol).
anyways yeah that sucks about RDKF

Doesn't matter if he was joking or not. The fact that he somehow, even in jest, justifies a horrible, violent, and perverted death sentence in regards to stealing someone's intellectual property is disturbing in itself. If this stream of thought goes undammed, then we as a society are only a few missteps away from accepting sites like 0gr15h and the like as the norm. There's two quotes that might be appropriate here--you figure out how they apply:

One of irony's greatest accomplishments is that one cannot punish the wrongdoing of another without committing a wrongdoing himself. ~Tas Soft Wind

Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer. But imprisonment turns the state into a gay dungeon-master. ~Jesse Jackson

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Frankly, they're a bunch of ****s.

I partly blame Valve, however. They're obviously not being careful about who they're giving review copies to. The only possible way Emporio could get this game is if they had a Steam account where Valve had manually added the RDKF Review game to their games list, and then manually added their IP address to the relevant content server.

You could be right, but i'd like to see how exactly you came to this conclusion.

 

[Chris D]

Well, because I have access to RDKF right now because Valve manually added the RDKF Review game to my games list, and then manually added my IP address to the relevant content server so only I could download it.

 

[Xune]

Well they either cracked the encryption on the pre-load or got their hands on a review copy. The latter is by far the easier option and is supported by the fact that many cracking groups openly recruit games reviewers for this very purpose.

 

[Chris D]

Well they either cracked the encryption on the pre-load or got their hands on a review copy. The latter is by far the easier option and is supported by the fact that many cracking groups openly recruit games reviewers for this very purpose.

It's hard to crack the encryption because generally as well as it being encrypted, there's also the last 1MB or so of the file missing which Steam downloads only when it's unlocked.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Obviously, Emporio know a reviewer that passes them the relevant files - that's certainly been the case since the CS:S beta, and they attempted to recruit me in the past. It's not possible for Valve to vet everyone they give review access to, so it's a calculated risk.
Looking at it from Valve's perspective, it's never going to be possible to stop them - it's just a constant patch/fix contest. However, Emporio's releases only allow you to play on other cracked servers. Servers that don't run VAC. Imagine how much fun that is.
So Steam games are only 90% secure (Yes, I made that figure up but you get the idea.) You'll never, ever get 100%, and you'll kill/bankrupt yourself trying. It's good enough.

 

[Frank]

Who the hell hacks Valve just to get Rag Doll Kong Fu? What a bunch of idiots...

 

[Chris D]

Who the hell hacks Valve just to get Rag Doll Kong Fu? What a bunch of idiots...

They haven't been hacked, they've just had someone who has access to the game leak it out to Emporio.

Pi Mu Rho, they could do a better job of vetting the reviewers... but if one of the reviewers has been recruited by Emporio then I guess this wouldn't matter.

Then again, if they've been stupid enough to give HL2World access to it...

 

[Gray Fox]

Movie companies put special marks on movies distributed in cinemas, every cinema gets a different mark, so they can see from which cinema the movie was filmed.
couldn't Valve just have a program generate numbers to different persons that got a copy of their game, and hide it like in the source code. Then download the copied version themselfes and see who's version was leaked.

 

[Chris D]

Movie companies put special marks on movies distributed in cinemas, every cinema gets a different mark, so they can see from which cinema the movie was filmed.
couldn't Valve just have a program generate numbers to different persons that got a copy of their game, and hide it like in the source code. Then download the copied version themselfes and see who's version was leaked.

It's possible. But then of course the "mark" could be found and stripped by Emporio. Also it provides the problem that everyone in the review process downloads the same file. This means they'd need some sort of server side application on the content server that would add this bit to it on the fly every time it was downloaded.

Like Pi Mu Rho said, they can make it difficult for them, but it won't completely stop them.

 

[Solaris]

Theres a Program called '****** Steam' Im not going to fill the blank. Which lets you download and play every valve game, including RDKF. Ive tested it and it works.

I however, didnt run a game as that would violate my ethics.
I have however legally bought all current valve games - dod source (which I havent pirated either).

The people who are behind this program however are B******s

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Obviously, Emporio know a reviewer that passes them the relevant files - that's certainly been the case since the CS:S beta, and they attempted to recruit me in the past. It's not possible for Valve to vet everyone they give review access to, so it's a calculated risk.
Looking at it from Valve's perspective, it's never going to be possible to stop them - it's just a constant patch/fix contest. However, Emporio's releases only allow you to play on other cracked servers. Servers that don't run VAC. Imagine how much fun that is.
So Steam games are only 90% secure (Yes, I made that figure up but you get the idea.) You'll never, ever get 100%, and you'll kill/bankrupt yourself trying. It's good enough.

hmm...can't Valve go after the reviewer? if theres a way to find out who, i'd say to make an example out of him and sue his pants off

 

[Chris D]

hmm...can't Valve go after the reviewer? if theres a way to find out who, i'd say to make an example out of him and sue his pants off

There's no way to find out.

It could be me for all they know.

Actually, it couldn't, because I have an IP address that changes every single time I disconnect from the internet (which is often). Most of the time when they activate it on my account it's like 2am and I'm in bed so by the time I come to download it my IP address has been changed which means Steam denies me from downloading it. I then have to wait until later that day when they go into work and they change it to my current one.

 

[Gargantou]

Man this shiet pisses me off.:\

****ing morons..

 

[Asuka]

Man this is ridiculous, THERE has to be SOMETHING THEY CAN TRY AND DO!

GIVE THE PEOPLE THE TRUST THE REVIEWS BIG COMPANIES! TRY SOMETHING! TRIAL AND ERROR might work just do something. This is ****ing RETARDED. What happens when aftermath is released? What happens then?

EDIT!

Why cant Valve try and go after Emporio. Go to the direct source.

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Like I said, trying to close off that last 10% is nigh-on impossible. Without wanting to get into a big piracy discussion here, Emporio's releases are only of interest or appeal to those people that either had no intention of buying the game anyway, or people that have already had their Steam accounts banned. In other words, these aren't casual pirates - they're not Joe Average. It's really not worth the expense to try and hunt these people down for all the financial harm that they're ultimately doing.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Theres a Program called '****** Steam' Im not going to fill the blank. Which lets you download and play every valve game, including RDKF. Ive tested it and it works.

Keep on using it, then come back when your steam account is banned! gogogogogogo

Oh well if it was leaked, they aren't the great "hackers" the set out to be, they get files from people with the game. They can't even hack VALVe's content servers. Just continue to laugh at them, sometime soon they'll dissapear.

 

[Solaris]

As I've said, Ive tested it, but didnt actually run a game.

Dont quote out of context tbh.

 

[Beerdude26]

Movie companies put special marks on movies distributed in cinemas, every cinema gets a different mark, so they can see from which cinema the movie was filmed.
couldn't Valve just have a program generate numbers to different persons that got a copy of their game, and hide it like in the source code. Then download the copied version themselfes and see who's version was leaked.

Some guy here had the idea to hash a certain code that is linked to the hardware ID of the hard drive. Everytime the game would be started, the ID would be hashed to compare it with the hash that was made when the game was installed.

Or something.

 

[Tnid]

Some guy here had the idea to hash a certain code that is linked to the hardware ID of the hard drive. Everytime the game would be started, the ID would be hashed to compare it with the hash that was made when the game was installed.

Or something.

But then Steam would lose one of its great features... the ability to play the game from anywhere in the world... no matter what PC you're using...

One of the reasons I've first decided to buy HL2(besides it being the sequel to a great game), was that my cousin came to my house and used his account to show me the game...

I've done the same for my friend and so convinced him to buy the game as well...

 

[Kangy]

Dude, that's an incredibly sick thing to say about anyone. The so-called "Happy Face Killer," Keith Hunter Jesperson, used to drag the bodies of women behind his 18-wheeler to grind them into non-existence essentially after strangling and reviving them numerous times. The accounts of these crimes that he gives in his diaries are disturbing in the extreme, so please consider this before making such a horrendously hideous statement.

I didn't know that, it was just a vague extension on that PA comic with the face shooting. The only reason I was so violent was because it was so damned early in the morning, and I'm not too pleasant at such a time. They still deserve the biggest punishment appropriate for the crime, though. There's no excuse for pirating a labour of love.

My problem is that they advertise themselves as anti-Steam, yet pirate the products. Bullshit, they're just pirates. If they were anti-Steam, they'd simply just not purchase the products from Steam in the first place.

 

[cschaef13]

I have a question, if these people are such "morons", why are they able to crack valves software?

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

I have a question, if these people are such "morons", why are they able to crack valves software?

Oh so cracking is now just getting files from people allowed to play it. Interesting, they haven't cracked anything, all they are doing is getting files from the privlaged few that are allowed to review before its released to the public.

 

[cschaef13]

Where is the proof that they just "got" these files from someone? Besides someone claiming that they did.

 

[JNightshade]

cschaef13, you missed the point. They're morons because they choose to steal revenue from the developers and kill the industry. Their computer skills have absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[^Ben]

They havent cracked shit, they get it from reviewers.

If they did crack the GCF(Unlikely) I would like to see them make the RDKF.exe, because it's not in the GCF.

Valve really need to audit the people they allow to get theese files, because it's a reviewer that's leaking to emporio.