Religion

[burner69]

We've been having a nice debate about our beliefs in a thread about bush, I feel there is more to say on this so I've opened this thread.

I'm curious, what do people believe in? And why?

Do you believe in God?
Do you believe in science?
Is Buddah your thing?
Or are you unsure.

Me? I'm an athiest. I believe that the universe is only a fragment of the whole picture, and that there is an infinity, whether it's entirely physical I'm undecided on.
I believe in doing what you want as long as it does not interfere with other people's lives, and being nice while you do it
I'm also a strong supporter of legalising cannabis, a trivial issue I know, but one I have taken to heart since; a) I smoke cannabis and often find great hostility because of it, despite never hurting anyone while stoned, and b) because I don't se any evidence why it should be made illegal.
Life is too large a place to fully comprehend, so I rarely bother trying, though I find it interesting that many people fill this gap with a God of some sort. I guess I started this thread to learn the WHY's behind people's beliefs.

Please share

 

[Neutrino]

I'm an atheist by practice, but a non-theist in principle. Meaning I think it is highly unlikely god exists, but I do not actually have concrete beliefs in anything, including the non-existence of God. To put it another way, I "believe" in god as much as I "believe" that gravity will stop working tomorrow. It seems impossible, but in a universe as old and vast as this one I don't pretend to know anything as an absolute certainty.

 

[Homer]

I think Pascal was right on.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Catholic

 

[johnnypoopoopant]

im christian and i believe god created the earth in 6 days and tooka rest on the 7th

 

[Prince of China]

I believe in God.
I also believe in science (however, I'm not really into this big bang theory, by science, I really mean stuff such as, "Why people's hearts beat).
And lastly, Buddah is not my thing.
I am Christian.

 

[Ikerous]

Christian
(Liberal though... not a bush lover)

"Do you believe in science?"
Of course.

 

[UmbrellaMaster]

Christian here.

 

[Neutrino]

I also believe in science (however, I'm not really into this big bang theory, by science, I really mean stuff such as, "Why people's hearts beat).

It's based on the same principles. Do you believe in your car, but not your computer?

 

[burner69]

Do you believe in God?
Do you believe in science?
Is Buddah your thing?
Or are you unsure.

Didn't intend you to answer each of these. Just using them as an example.

 

[cronholio]

Catholic, but I attended school with Jesuit Priests who approach the bible quite scientificly therefore, my belief system allows for the possibility/probability of evolution. We spent a good deal of time studying other religions so I know quite a bit about non Christian faiths. It's one of the things I really liked about studying at Catholic schools. You can't even talk about it at public schools which is sad. If morality and world religion classes were a requirement in middle and high school we'd probably have a much more tolerant society.

Generally I think religion, any religion not necessarily organized religion, is a good thing.

I have no patience for people who reject religion, are intolerant of people who are religious, or outright reject the possibility of the existance of a higher power.

 

[Prince of China]

It's based on the same principles. Do you believe in your car, but not your computer?

Yes. I do not believe in my computer. In fact, I am using someone else's computer.

 

[Wraith]

science isnt a belief. science is knowing. science is not a religion.

i am an atheist, but, to be fair, i wont say theres no god, ill just say that it is just as likely that invisible unicorns live on mars, that there is a god.

 

[InsaneCow]

I am Christian. Was raised as an atheist, Family is atheist, but I became Christian about 6 months before my 19th birthday. And life has never been better

 

[Reaktor4]

I'm an atheist by practice, but a non-theist in principle. Meaning I think it is highly unlikely god exists, but I do not actually have concrete beliefs in anything, including the non-existence of God. To put it another way, I "believe" in god as much as I "believe" that gravity will stop working tomorrow. It seems impossible, but in a universe as old and vast as this one I don't pretend to know anything as an absolute certainty.

Youre agnostic then... same as me. Athiests believe we know for sure that there is no god or anything of the sort.

Do you believe in science?

Wtf is that supposed to mean?

 

[Neutrino]

Youre agnostic then... same as me. Athiests believe we know for sure that there is no god or anything of the sort.

Sort of. But I say I am an atheist in practice because that better reflects how I live my life. While I am technically agnostic, I would consider that view to be more balanced in whether or not there is a god. My view slants heavily one way, so I find it does not quite fit me I don't think.

 

[MadHatter]

Hmmmm, could discuss religion's role and effects in the world. I fear it'll become another political cess-pool though.

 

[johnnypoopoopant]

wow i thought that i would be the only christian but i guess i was wrong

 

[Death.Trap]

This about sums it up for me:

Latin version just to be spiffy =)

This is a Catholic prayer.

Apostles Creed

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem; Creatorem coeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum, Filium ejus unicum, Dominum nostrum; qui conceptus est de Spiritu Sancto, natus ex Maria virgine; passus sub Pontio Pilato, crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus; descendit ad inferna; tertia die resurrexit a mortuis; ascendit ad coelos; sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis; inde venturus (est) judicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum; sanctam ecclesiam catholicam; sanctorum communionem; remissionem peccatorum; carnis resurrectionem; vitam oeternam. Amen.

English version

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

Do I believe in science? I would like to bring up a quote by Albert Einstein. At least, I think it was him.

Sience without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.

 

[hasan]

I'm Muslim, ofcourse I belive in God, and ofcourse I belive in science.

I think most of the basics of today's science were set by us .. like some 800 years ago.

The term "Algorithm" is derived from the name of the guy who set the rules of "Algebra", even Algebra is an Arabic word.

There has never ben any conflict between Science and Islam, and ther is no official "church" constitution that rules .. and no priest who recieves anything from the holy spirit.
Only scholars, who are just normal people who have studied the reiligion for a long time.
Islam cannot be "just a religion", it's a way of life, nobody can claim to be muslim, yet think that religion has nothing to do with life.

There is an arbic book with a very good introduction that explains Islam in about two pages. I wish I could find a translation of it.

Anyway, if you want to know some more:

Allah is He besides Whom there is no god, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all subsist; slumber does not overtake Him nor sleep; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; who is he that can intercede with Him but by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they cannot comprehend anything out of His knowledge except what He pleases, His Throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and the preservation of them both tires Him not, and He is the Most High, the Great.

We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, and no sense of weariness touch Us.

Say walk on earth and see how He started the creation, then Allah will create the later creation. Allah has power over all things.

And We did not create the heaven and the earth and what is between them for sport.

 

[CrazyHarij]

Joshu asked the teacher Nansen, "What is the True Way?"

Nansen answered, "Every way is the true Way."

Joshu asked, "Can I study it?"

Nansen answered, "The more you study, the further from the Way."

Joshu asked, "If I don't study it, how can I know it?"

Nansen answered, "The Way does not belong to things seen: nor to things unseen. It does not belong to things known: nor to things unknown. Do not seek it, study it, or name it. To find yourself on it, open yourself as wide as the sky."

 

[Deadeh]

Christian - just over a year now

 

[oldagerocker]

i dont believe in any religion, if any, i'd rather be buddhist, more about looking after oneself than caring about any fictional or nonfictional God.
I am Agnostic, i dont say there is no God, i dont say there is... we just dont know.

 

[burner69]

I have no patience for people who reject religion, are intolerant of people who are religious, or outright reject the possibility of the existance of a higher power.

I don't believe in any religion, I think there's a lot more to the universe than we see but I don't believe in a God.

I don't want to sound confrontational, I started this thread cuz I find religion fascinating, but do you have patience with me? Seeing as I respect religious people, but just don't believe in the same thing as them.

Surely my beliefs could be called a religion, so as you have no time for me, does that not make you intolerant to my religion.

I'm a funny example, sorry

 

[cronholio]

I don't believe in any religion, I think there's a lot more to the universe than we see but I don't believe in a God.

I don't want to sound confrontational, I started this thread cuz I find religion fascinating, but do you have patience with me? Seeing as I respect religious people, but just don't believe in the same thing as them.

Surely my beliefs could be called a religion, so as you have no time for me, does that not make you intolerant to my religion.

I'm a funny example, sorry

You're not the sort of person I was referring to. I'm talking about the sort of person who would refer to someone's religious beliefs as fairytales. You seem to be pretty respectful of what other people believe, not just in this thread but others, so I have respect for you.

 

[burner69]

You're not the sort of person I was referring to. I'm talking about the sort of person who would refer to someone's religious beliefs as fairytales. You seem to be pretty respectful of what other people believe, not just in this thread but others, so I have respect for you.

:thumbs:

 

[Neutrino]

You're not the sort of person I was referring to. I'm talking about the sort of person who would refer to someone's religious beliefs as fairytales. You seem to be pretty respectful of what other people believe, not just in this thread but others, so I have respect for you.

Hmm.

Definitely don't mean to offend, but I guess I am one of those people technically. I don't think there is any more evidence for religion than there is for a fairy tale. That's just what I think.

But that's not to say I don't respect your right to believe whatever you want. I also won't mock your beliefs or tell you outright that you are wrong, though I may debate with people about it sometimes.

Perhaps that isn't quite what you meant though. I'm not sure.