Richard's Works Gallery

[rmichaeux]

Well, here I am again, this time with some new works. And here they are in no particular order:

Bruce Lee

SOURCE FILE: Illustrator File

Bob Marley

SOURCE FILE: Illustrator File

explicite no.01

SOURCE FILE: Illustrator File

 

[MJ12]

did you actually draw any or just photoshop/illustrate these?

 

[rmichaeux]

All these illustrations were created in Illustrator CS2 which is why I have the link (from my website) to the files itself. The transparent backdrop was created in Photoshop.

 

[ktimekiller]

unique

 

[rmichaeux]

Tutorial

Here's a link to the tutorial on how I went on about into doing this:

Vector Illustration Tutorial

 

[rmichaeux]

More Works

closing down this thread...

 

[CptStern]

All these illustrations were created in Illustrator CS2 which is why I have the link (from my website) to the files itself. The transparent backdrop was created in Photoshop.

no offense but that looks exactly like what the old Adobe Streamline did ..take photos and posterize them into vector art ... it takes no skill ..even less so with the method you describe in your tutorial ..I've been using illustrator for 9 years and anyone with any experience would immediately recognize your technique ..had you drawn it in illustrator I might have been impressed but otherwise this is no different than applying a filter

 

[rmichaeux]

no offense but that looks exactly like what the old Adobe Streamline did ..take photos and posterize them into vector art ... it takes no skill ..even less so with the method you describe in your tutorial ..I've been using illustrator for 9 years and anyone with any experience would immediately recognize your technique ..had you drawn it in illustrator I might have been impressed but otherwise this is no different than applying a filter

None taken. However, the illustrations I've posted were not done through Streamline. They were done through Illustrator CS2. And I've been using Illustrator for at least 4 years. I only use reference images to help me out when need be.

 

[Vegeta897]

no offense but that looks exactly like what the old Adobe Streamline did ..take photos and posterize them into vector art ... it takes no skill ..even less so with the method you describe in your tutorial ..I've been using illustrator for 9 years and anyone with any experience would immediately recognize your technique ..had you drawn it in illustrator I might have been impressed but otherwise this is no different than applying a filter

:|

Go back to the politics forum.

 

[CptStern]

None taken. However, the illustrations I've posted were not done through Streamline. They were done through Illustrator CS2. And I've been using Illustrator for at least 4 years.

of course not, streamline was discontinued almost a decade ago

you could have just used the Live trace tool in CS2, it does the same thing

but I dont get why you're posting this




vageta: do us all a favour and stfu ..unless you'd like to add something that's actually worth anything?

 

[Vegeta897]

I don't go around disrespecting other people's art threads by assuming what they're doing "takes no skill".

I like Man Eater the most, Richard.

 

[CptStern]

how am I disrespecting anything? had you read his tutorial you'd see that it's just a simple matter of saving it as an eps ..there is no skill involved in getting that effect unless you call using "save as" a skill, there was no disrespect whatsoever ...still doesnt take away the fact that you're just trolling, but that's not really surprising

 

[rmichaeux]

of course not, streamline was discontinued almost a decade ago

you could have just used the Live trace tool in CS2, it does the same thing

but I dont get why you're posting this




vageta: do us all a favour and stfu ..unless you'd like to add something that's actually worth anything?

I mainly used the pen tool all the way to do these. Furthermore, these took a least a month each to do. The reason why I posted was to see if anyone were to see how I actually did these, and at the same time to have people guess on how it was done.

I always like to go beyond the borders in art. I'm not one to follow the whole entire system in art, which is why I do a lot of things that people would never intend to do.

But in this case, again, these were done using the pen tool and each one took about a month to do. Also, I am trying out the stencil style of illustration, and at the very same time I am trying to go for the realism aspect, which is another reason to why I'm posting these.

Hopefully, you'll understand where I am. If not, that's fine too. I appreciate your comments.

 

[Vegeta897]

Ok Stern. It's just not very common for someone to go in someone's art thread and tell them what they are doing takes no skill. His pictures look cool in my opinion and it really doesn't matter to me how he made them. He spent a lot of time on them and just because there's a shortcut to do it doesn't mean you can say you don't understand the point in posting them. It's art ffs.

 

[CptStern]

I mainly used the pen tool all the way to do these. Furthermore, these took a least a month each to do.

so what's it going to be? you did this by hand or you used your "save as eps" method? the image of bob marley is EXACTLY like the version in your tutorial where you SHOW how you do it ...again did you do it by hand or "save as" ...seeing as how I use illustrator because I actually use it to illustrate I can say unequiviablly you did not freehand the entire thing ..especially when you gave us a 30 second solution that remarkablly does exactly what you're able to do with a pen ..coinicidence? hardly

The reason why I posted was to see if anyone were to see how I actually did these, and at the same time to have people guess on how it was done.

I always like to go beyond the borders in art. I'm not one to follow the whole entire system in art, which is why I do a lot of things that people would never intend to do.

you mean like posterize someone elses work and use it as your own ....this isnt pushing the boundaries of art it's jus taking the lazy way out by using someone leses work

But in this case, again, these were done using the pen tool and each one took about a month to do.

yet you can get the EXACT same effect by simply "saving as" ..sorry but it has all the tell tale signs of a bitmap converted to vector ..again I've done this for a living for almost a decade now ..i know how things are done (usually) without having to deconstruct it

Also, I am trying out the stencil style of illustration, and at the very same time I am trying to go for the realism aspect, which is another reason to why I'm posting these.

Hopefully, you'll understand where I am. If not, that's fine too. I appreciate your comments.

look, the equivilent would be to take someone elses work photocopy it, stick it on a canvas, paint a wash over it and call it your own ..when all you really did was copy paste

I really dont care what methods people use but lifting someone elses work is not something any artist appreciates

Ok Stern. It's just not very common for someone to go in someone's art thread and tell them what they are doing takes no skill. His pictures look cool in my opinion and it really doesn't matter to me how he made them.

but he didnt do anything except save as and add a few filters

He spent a lot of time on them and just because there's a shortcut to do it doesn't mean you can say you don't understand the point in posting them. It's art ffs.

he didnt spend any time on it ..at least not the outline of the character ..it has all the tell tale signs of being converted to eps ..he diodnt even bother to get rid of the residual noise that's always present when coverting a bitmap

 

[Vegeta897]

So now you're calling him a liar?

Yeah, um, that's indeed disrespectful. I think you'd better withdraw your accusation.

Stern it looks like you came into this thread for the sole purpose of either exposing that his art takes no skill, or exposing that he is a liar. Either way, that's pretty douchy.

I'm sorry for the hostile comment in my first post in this thread Stern but honestly all things aside right now I think you're taking this a bit far.

 

[CptStern]

So now you're calling him a liar?

Yeah, um, that's indeed disrespectful. I think you'd better withdraw your accusation.

Stern it looks like you came into this thread for the sole purpose of either exposing that his art takes no skill, or exposing that he is a liar. Either way, that's pretty douchy.

I'm sorry for the hostile comment in my first post in this thread Stern but honestly all things aside right now I think you're taking this a bit far.

I was geniunely curious at first as why he posted it, nothing more ..it grew into something else when he contradicted himself ..not once did I call him a liar; all I said was that he contradicted himself ...still fail to see how you are in any way involved with this


look I'm the first person to recognise people's work (I'm a former art teacher) however I dont like it when people claim something for themselves ..it's a sticking point for most artisits as people wnat credit when credit is due

 

[rmichaeux]

Okay, I see where this is going. And for this, the only thing I can do is just leave. Honestly, I see no point in continuing here. I regret I returned in the first place.

Goodbye and good luck to all of you!

 

[CptStern]

stand up for your convictions if you feel you've been wronged, but whatever it's your choice

 

[Vegeta897]

...still fail to see how you are in any way involved with this

I'm sticking up for him? I wasn't aware this was a private matter. It should have been in a PM if it was.

however I dont like it when people claim something for themselves

But that's just it, you don't KNOW he did that. You are just assuming, which is not a polite thing to do right in front of someone.

And now thanks to you he's gone. GG.

What you did was a bit uncalled for Stern. You haven't any proof to go along with your accusation, and so your hostility has driven him away. He doesn't want to deal with you and so he won't, so he's gone.

 

[CptStern]

I'm sticking up for him? I wasn't aware this was a private matter. It should have been in a PM if it was.


But that's just it, you don't KNOW he did that. You are just assuming, which is not a polite thing to do right in front of someone.

And now thanks to you he's gone. GG.

what it's my fault he tried to pass off his work as something he hand drew? come on! he obviously cant support his case so he opted to leave instead of facing the tough questions ..oh and you had a hand in it by helping escalate the situation ..but that's just you; you enjoy following me around throwing unsubstantiated accustions in my face in an attempt to discredit me because ggod knows you cant do it in a proper debate

and I know he didnt do because he himself says he didnt do it ..he used his tutorial ..and even if he hadnt admitted to it, anyone who's ever used illustrators knows it wasnt hand drawn ..Illustrator is far more conducive to clean lines not small little details; that's what bitmaps/photoshop is for

 

[Vegeta897]

what it's my fault he tried to pass off his work as something he hand drew? come on! he obviously cant support his case so he opted to leave instead of facing the tough questions

Or he doesn't want to deal with someone like you? How would you feel Stern?

..oh and you had a hand in it by helping escalate the situation

Escalate? I was trying to stick up for him. You were no doubt out of line with what you did in here.

..but that's just you; you enjoy following me around throwing unsubstantiated accustions in my face in an attempt to discredit me because ggod knows you cant do it in a proper debate

This is very relevant. :imu:

and I know he didnt do because he himself says he didnt do it ..he used his tutorial ..and even if he hadnt admitted to it, anyone who's ever used illustrators knows it wasnt hand drawn ..Illustrator is far more conducive to clean lines not small little details; that's what bitmaps/photoshop is for

Again you still haven't any PROOF. The ****ing P word. You don't have it. Though good job, pat yourself on the back, you made him leave. If that satisfies some ridiculous sense of art justice within you then ok great.

 

[Krynn72]

Im gunna have to agree with stern on this one. Looking through his tutorial makes it obvious that he didnt really do anything besides change some file settings. Kids at my school do the same thing, they take a photo of someone, change some settings to make it look different and pass it off as hand painted.

But looking at his website makes me feel lets me know that he actually can paint, so :|

 

[Vegeta897]

So, you're taking Stern's accusations of him being a liar over what the artist himself actually said he did. Even after seeing his site which proves his skill.

Makes sense tbh :/

 

[Krynn72]

Yes, he can paint. These particular ones... meh. It looks very very much like what Stern is saying it is. And even if he did do it by hand, whats the point? It looks exactly like a picture with some filters on it. Whats so artsy about that?

 

[Qonfused]

What the hell Stern. Just go mind your own business somewhere else. Even if he did "cheat" as you call it, you shouldn't come in here and make a big scene (like you usually do).

 

[Vegeta897]

Yes, he can paint. These particular ones... meh. It looks very very much like what Stern is saying it is. And even if he did do it by hand, whats the point? It looks exactly like a picture with some filters on it. Whats so artsy about that?

I do pixel art in MS Paint even though I could be using much better programs... The amount of dedication to making something instead of using a shortcut is what's so artsy about it.

What Qonfused said. It's just bad manners.

 

[rmichaeux]

You know, let me make it clear as to why I did this.

For the most part, the tutorial was to show how you can have a transparent backdrop on the vector illustration. Because when you open it up an AI file in Photoshop as a Generic EPS, you have a transparent background behind the illustration. And since you can't save the artwork with the transparent background, I was creating a way on how to make it so by creating a fake transparent backdrop .

Stern, you say that you can't do any of the details in Illustrator. I say, that the impossible can be done, that was another thing I was trying to show within the illustrations that I did. Though you may not believe that I did them, you're entitled to your own opinion. But I know that the impossible can be accomplished if you are willing to give it a shot. That's the problem with some artist, they are too afraid of doing the unthinkable. Nothing in life is impossible.

You know it is a shame that there a number of artist who don't see that the unthinkable can be accomplished (whether traditional or digital) while there are some who know it could (and can) be done.

I'm sorry if I wasted everybody's time (especially yours).

 

[Vegeta897]

Richard please don't leave. You don't have to deal with Stern, I and others still believe you.

 

[Krynn72]

Post some of your other stuff I like them a lot better :thumbs:

And doing something in the hardest way possible doesnt really seem like art, especially when it could be done much easier and quicker with the same result. Vegeta, your pixel art may be hard to make, but it looks unique, these dont. I took the bob marley photograph into photoshop between my posts here, and just did a simple cutout filter in photoshop and got almost the same exact result. :|

Im just not a fan of the "hard is art" theme going around the internet. Like the mona lisa in MS paint. Yeah, musta taken a lot of work. But any artist could paint the mona lisa in MS paint if they wished to waste so much time doing the most roundabout and most inefficient way possible.

But like I said, please post some of your other stuff. I really like some of them a lot.

 

[rmichaeux]

One more thing, I put dedication into my work, no matter how it was done. I do graphic design, and illustration. And no matter what I do, I am willing to put all into what I do. I don't care what people think of me, I'm still an artist, at the same time a rebel living amongst the art community. I stand alone, therefore I walk alone, I don't care what others say or think of me.

 

[Vegeta897]

A fine attitude to have. You have my respect.

The art forum is about respect. You don't have to agree with someone's philosophy but you should respect it.

Stern I think you owe him an apology.

 

[rmichaeux]

Post some of your other stuff I like them a lot better :thumbs:

And doing something in the hardest way possible doesnt really seem like art, especially when it could be done much easier and quicker with the same result. Vegeta, your pixel art may be hard to make, but it looks unique, these dont. I took the bob marley photograph into photoshop between my posts here, and just did a simple cutout filter in photoshop and got almost the same exact result. :|

Im just not a fan of the "hard is art" theme going around the internet. Like the mona lisa in MS paint. Yeah, musta taken a lot of work. But any artist could paint the mona lisa in MS paint if they wished to waste so much time doing the most roundabout and most inefficient way possible.

But like I said, please post some of your other stuff. I really like some of them a lot.

True. But I always like to take a challenge and show that the impossible can be done.

 

[Vegeta897]

Yeah, I do anti-aliasing by hand in my pixel art. There's a certain satisfaction you feel when you do something yourself instead of having the computer do it.

 

[Krynn72]

True. But I always like to take a challenge and show that the impossible can be done.

But... its not impossible. Nobody thinks it is. Its just impractical. :dozey:

 

[CptStern]

You know, let me make it clear as to why I did this.

For the most part, the tutorial was to show how you can have a transparent backdrop on the vector illustration. Because when you open it up an AI file in Photoshop as a Generic EPS, you have a transparent background behind the illustration. And since you can't save the artwork with the transparent background, I was creating a way on how to make it so by creating a fake transparent backdrop .

what? I dont understand your point ..you wanted a transparent backdrop? png, gif would have done that for you ..I still dont understand the point of it ..especially when you later claimed you did it by hand

oh and you could easily have "made a transparency in photoshop from vector artwork" by simply opening up the illustrator, selecting it all, copy and then pasting it into photoshop ..much easier and I dont have to write a tutorial to tell someone how to do it

Stern, you say that you can't do any of the details in Illustrator.

sure it can ..but why would you mimic something that takes less than a minute by reproducting the EXACT same thing after a month of work? it makes no sense ..I'm willing to bet I can take the original photo superimpose your drawing and it will match up exactly ..to the point where it will accurately reproduce exactly what an eps does: takes all gradients and merges it inot a single colour

I say, that the impossible can be done, that was another thing I was trying to show within the illustrations that I did. Though you may not believe that I did them, you're entitled to your own opinion. But I know that the impossible can be accomplished if you are willing to give it a shot.

give what a shot? what the hell are you talking about? you yourself said you followed your tutorial:

Here's a link to the tutorial on how I went on about into doing this:

Vector Illustration Tutorial

make up your mind ..30 second job or months of hand drawing?

That's the problem with some artist, they are too afraid of doing the unthinkable. Nothing in life is impossible.

give me a break ..although not impossible by any means YOU YOURSELF SAID IT WASNT HANDDRAWN

You know it is a shame that there a number of artist who don't see that the unthinkable can be accomplished (whether traditional or digital) while there are some who know it could (and can) be done.

I'm sorry if I wasted everybody's time (especially yours).

you didnt accomplish "the unthinkable" ...unless it's unthinkable to PRESS CTRL + SHIFT + S


btw, why do you sound like knghenry?

 

[Vegeta897]

Good god Stern. Unless you are going to prove that he's a liar just leave this thread alone.

 

[rmichaeux]

Yeah, I do anti-aliasing by hand in my pixel art. There's a certain satisfaction you feel when you do something yourself instead of having the computer do it.

True, when I do my art, whether both in Illustrator, Painter, Photoshop, or any other program, I always like to go into extreme detail with most of my works.

I'll post some works soon once I cool off. Because right now, I'm this way: :sniper::flame:

And I need to vent off some steam.

 

[CptStern]

yes extreme detail by pressing ctrl + shift + s


you know had you been honest I wouldnt have cared ..I myself have used that effect a hundred times ..saves printing costs while still looking like a photo

Good god Stern. Unless you are going to prove that he's a liar just leave this thread alone.

did you even bother to read my post ffs? I've proved he was being less than honest when he said he hand drew because earlier in the thread he says he used the method described in the tutorial ..look, anyone else and you wouldnt even had joined in this conversation ..but the ****ing least you could do is actually LOOK at what I've written

he wrote this earlier:

Here's a link to the tutorial on how I went on about into doing this:

wtf else could that mean? you know I know you have it out for me but you go to unreasonable lengths to prove me wrong, even if it makes you look like an idiot in the process

 

[Vegeta897]

Stern I read your post and I know it looks like there's a contradiction in what he said, but you should let him explain, if he wants to.

And frankly I don't think he has to do anything for you considering how you've offended him.

How am I proving you wrong? All you are doing is accusing and I'm saying you shouldn't. That's it. I don't see what unreasonable lengths I am going to, I'm saying you are out of line with what you've done and that you still haven't proved that he did what you said with a simple text contridiction which could have been a typo or misunderstanding.