S.T.A.L.K.E.R pwning HL²?

mortiz said:
You're one sad sad individual if you're not excited about Half-Life 2 and you're posting on these boards...oh, you must be a troll.

He's a "Leet Assassin!" Give him a break ;)
 
Shuzer said:
He's a "Leet Assassin!" Give him a break ;)
lol, And no, i'm not a troll, and unless it comes out in six months, my excitement will come back. And just because i'm on these boards and admitting that another game LOOKS better than HL2, doesn't mean i shouldn't be here. I will always be a fan of the HL series, and i will always like chatting with others about upcoming games that are attracting this much hype.
 
Stalker was postponed to 2005 because of HL², amongst others, now that Vivendi might sit on it for another 6 months, it could just be that they'll hurry up and release it this year instead.
 
I haven't seen anything of STALKER that warrents the attention this game gets from some people. But, I'm hoping it'll be class because the world needs more good games.
 
Shuzer said:
He's a "Leet Assassin!" Give him a break ;)


No, I think you'll find he's an "Leet Assasain", I'm not sure what an "Assasain" is, sound's "leet" though.
 
It is just shit what you are talking when you say that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. will be released in 2005 because of HL2. That is just shit...

If I remember news right, reason for pushing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. back is this: They need more time to code support for like AMD 64 processors...That should give better AI etc.

Yes, just more code and tweaking!

Ps. I will buy S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Half-Life 2
 
Just so you know, in an analyst press conference, the CEO of THQ said that they were postponing the release of STALKER and a couple of other games until 2005 because of the Doom 3/Half Life 2 releases.

In his actual words, he said: "We don't want any part of that."

I have no doubt that STALKER needed (and might still need) more work but the CEO of THQ did make reference to those other two games as a reason for postponement.
 
Lucifer said:
that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. will be released in 2005 because of HL2. That is just shit...

If I remember news right,

Well one, it's not "shit" and two you don't remember news right, do some checking before you post please :/
 
I've never seen STALKER (So many periods.. argh) videos, only screenshots and a few articles. Could someone say why is it so good as some people speculate? I've propably missed the essential parts, not being able to see it above-average game. What have the developers promised this time?

And about it pwning HL2... we'll see.
 
STALKER's main selling point is its truly dynamic AI and world environment. STALKER's world is supposed to be an unscripted, living, breathing environment where your actions have definite consequences.

For example, NPCs will try to complete mission objectives before you do and as such will alter the outcome of the game.
 
Oh, the good old "unscripted" promise. Thanks for info. We'll see ( Becoming my trademark,eh)
 
Yellonet said:
But if they're released about the same time, then most people have to make a choice on which game to get, and when they can afford a game again there might be new ones out that are more appealing than the one they didn't choose the time before. Am I making sense?

People get money once a month. Let's say they budget a game every month. Problem solved. It's even room enough to budget in one game every two months...
 
I can believe the A.I is truly dynamic. The monsters you fight hunt other animals, Night changes to day in real time, and from the videos i saw, the A.I is EXTREMELY good (and that isn't even the finished game). Your allies and enemies act as if they were controlled by real people. I would buy it... if i could run it...
BTW: I still want HL2, alot more then i want STALKER...
 
Lucifer said:
It is just shit what you are talking when you say that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. will be released in 2005 because of HL2. That is just shit...

If I remember news right, reason for pushing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. back is this: They need more time to code support for like AMD 64 processors...That should give better AI etc.

Yes, just more code and tweaking!

Ps. I will buy S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Half-Life 2
This preview:
http://www4.tomshardware.com/game/20040911/index.html

More specifically, this section of the preview:
http://www4.tomshardware.com/game/20040911/stalker-07.html
 
I'm looking forward to my copy of HL2 provided from Monro myself. Hopefully he won't delete that old thread when it is delayed. Personally, I'm looking forward towards both games especially if they are able to impliment coop in Stalker like they were initially advertising.
 
Got some people thinking about something else than lawsuit this, lawsuit that anyway :LOL:
 
stalker pwns, and HL2 pwns, release 'em too close together and i know at least one person who loses: ME. money doesn't grow in my local Arboretum, unfortunately :(
 
HL2 will be better


STALKER looks like a good concept but something about it seems....off
 
I noticed something off too...can't really tell what it is though...hopefully whatever it is will be fixed in the final version :)
 
A friend of mine has quickly lost interest in Stalker (I was never to bothered to begin with) after everything he pictured the game having vanished; out-of-the-box co-op, multiplayer with vehicles... now he couldn't care less.

He still seems fairly hyped about HL2 though, ironically because he was already aware of its failings and didn't try to picture what it could be...
 
BRODIEMAN2k4 said:
STALKER looks like a good concept but something about it seems....off
Is that so? Personally I'm going to enjoy the realistic ballistics and the ability to (hopefully you must, in order to hit anything :)) look through the sights of weapons. That combined with a good physics and vehicles and large maps will make a very good game... I hope :)
 
Wtf?

NAaa, The fact that the two games are coming out is just going to be a double whammy, ive already pre ordered both of em, why not get both?


De Shanno
 
far cry was good, what was wrong with far cry?
anyhow, STALKER looks like a game that will be more of a Hitman/SWAT3 kind of game, not really close to far cry.
anyhow (again...), HL2, if released this year (better damned be) will probably have ballistic sales, probably more than any other game, maybe even game series. if not, in about half a year, HL2 should have highest sales. most other games that are released before or after HL2 will probably be forgotten about, if not, barely noticed. if my theory is wrong, then give me a gay sig and ill use it, honestly.
 
Please don't flame me as I think both games are going to be excellent...

But my honest opinion is that the X-Ray engine Stalker uses is superior to Source. I also believe the majority of the game's ideas are more ambitous than those shown in Half-Life 2.

Just take a look at some of these old screens to get an impression as to how amazing this game could be.

http://www.stalker-game.com/index_eng.html

(site is flash, click on 'gallery')

But it's unfair to compare them really. One's a (supposedly) non-linear open/unscripted FPS while the other follows more traditional conventions. The best way I can describe Stalker is kind of like a FPS GTA-styled go anywhere, do what you want experience (in limits of the game's design brief). Reading this has left me extremely impressed...

http://www.stalker-game.com/index_eng.html

(site is flash, click 'game', 'overview', 'faq')

The reason I think Stalker stands a threat to Half-Life 2 isn't in terms of commercial potential... Valve's product certainly has a higher profile...

No. It's to do with history.

Whichever of these games lands first is going to send shockwaves around the gaming scene in my view. And we're lucky as gamers to be in this situation... However, if the lawsuit really does end up delaying Half-Life 2 for several months, then I feel if Stalker hits the market first it's going to sweep the wind out from Valve's sails. I'm becoming tired of these twists with Half-Life 2's development, and even though the most recent isn't strictly Valve's fault, when I look over at Stalker the game's progress just seems more...

Stable. Believeable... I suppose.

Which is slightly amusing when you consider it's faced similar delays throughout development itself.

The way I see it is that Stalker and GSC are kind of in a similar position to how Half-Life and Valve were back in '98. They're the darkhorses, the unknown, the word of mouth everyone is beginning to turn towards...

That doesn't mean I don't think the immense sequel that's almost certainly Half-Life 2 won't be every inch the amazing blockbuster upon release... I just think Stalker offers something slightly more intriguing and different to everything else as of this moment.

It certainly feels more on course than Half-Life 2 even though the game's in all probability further away...
 
Bobcat said:

I don't know what you think that proves.

Anyway, I don't think moving to 64 bit processors just yet is a good idea, considering Intel have not released their 64 bit processors (who generally have a larger market share) nor do most people have 64 bit processors. You have to remember that a 64 bit version of a game would probably have to be sold separately, there'd just be too much to do in an update.
 
I think the videos express more eloquently why this game is beginning to catch more and more of my attention.

http://www.gametrailers.com/vault-s4.html

It does look truly fresh, and atmospherically very different from anything else out there.

I think both Stalker and Half-Life 2 are going to be superb. :)
 
BRODIEMAN2k4 said:
HL2 will be better


STALKER looks like a good concept but something about it seems....off

This is exactly what I was trying to get at earlier.
 
STALKER looks like it's way, way better than hl2. Graphcis, AI, originality, everything. Hl2 is good but nothing special now
 
Ghost Freeman said:
Not if Vivendi has their way.


Um, if Vivendi has their way, then they will try and get HL2 out ASAP. Vivendi knows they have gold in their hands right now, all they need to do is get it out to the public.
 
Axyon said:
STALKER is due in 2005, Half-Life 2 will have probably been out for a long while before then.


Yeah. LOL! Apparently this game will never hit store's shelves. However, you are a mod, hence the bias.
 
Concept said:
I think the videos express more eloquently why this game is beginning to catch more and more of my attention.

http://www.gametrailers.com/vault-s4.html

It does look truly fresh, and atmospherically very different from anything else out there.

I think both Stalker and Half-Life 2 are going to be superb. :)

Thanks a ton for that link, man! Those videos have me really excited about STALKER now. I was always interested, but after seeing it in action, I can't wait for the real thing to come out. HL2, STALKER, and FEAR are all on the horizon. 'Tis a good time to be a gamer (as well as a good time to order a new PC :) )
 
hl2 will always own stalker , doom3 ,......etc becuase of the MODS!!!! cs:s, dod, tfc...
 
Does intel really have larger market share? ARGH, i thought theyd have a bit less considering the ownage by AMD in the processor department for anything but servers

anyway, i think Stalker will be better than HL2....
let me rephrase, i think ill LIKE stalker more than HL2
they both look very well made, and if they both live up to their potential and do what they set out to do, i hope they both get 98-100

the idea of stalker just appeals to me more, and im Russian as well, so the fact that the game uses rubles, is in Chernobyl, and has Ak47's makes me love it already :D
But yeh, i think they are both gonna be completely equal on the ownage scale,
i think its amazing how a nobodies out of the blue game from Ukraine has developed into such an anticipated title

HL2 being an anticipated title isnt an achievement at all, or at least its purely an achievement of HL1 which guaranteed that HL2 is gonna be exciting
 
Silent_night said:
hl2 will always own stalker , doom3 ,......etc becuase of the MODS!!!! cs:s, dod, tfc...

Exactly! And because of the awesome SP! :D
 
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