Saddam Hussein sentenced to death :(

ĐynastҰ said:
Bush will win *cough* fixed *cough*

Why the ***k is he still in!?!?!?! over 50% of Americans say they dont want him in power...duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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it's not a presidential election ...even if it was presidents can only serve 2 terms ..not that it really matters because bush has never been in charge ..the neoconservatives can just stick another puppet in office ..I hear Jeb Bush may run

Nih said:
Very true, but does the anger that would have risen if the iraqis couldn't try him at their own court, outweigh the fact that he might possibly become a martyr if he wasn't tried at an international court? It's all about meassuring whatever will create more violence.
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yes however it's not really their court ..it was set up by the US ..iraqis dont see it is an iraqi trial

Nih said:
As far as I know there is no international law that states Saddam must be tried at an international court, since he's basically the same as a murderer except with more deaths on his conscience.
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not really ..he could be charged with war crimes (which he has but not the same as the IWCT (war crimes tribunal)


Nih said:
As far as I remember there wasn't any huge international outcry about the decision to try him at an iraqi court.
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ya there was ..especially when the court made any piece of evidence that had to do with saddam-US relationship would be inadmissible
 
he deserves to die, you dont know what he did to us !
 
So what is it like living in Kuwait? I hear it sounds like a nice place to live, provided you're not being invaded by Iraq at the time.

I know it is a rich country, but is that wealth evidenced in the citizens as well?
 
Raziaar said:
So what is it like living in Kuwait? I hear it sounds like a nice place to live, provided you're not being invaded by Iraq at the time.

I know it is a rich country, but is that wealth evidenced in the citizens as well?
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Yes, its a nice to live in Kuwait, to be a citizen.
but if you visit it as a tourist, its not that good, but i like living here, free education ( if you " as a father " didn't register your children in a school, the government will sue you. ) free health care. and no taxes.

back in 1990 when Iraq invade Kuwait, when the citizens ( as ordered ) escaped from Kuwait ,Emir Jaber ( Kuwait President ) ordered for every Kuwaiti to get a salary while he is away.


Resistance in Kuwait back in 1990
 
Great. Another martyr.

I have no sympathy for Saddam Hussein. I do not, however, support the death penalty. And this specific case, I think a life sentence would have been more practical.
 
Gah. Rotting in an 8x8 is far more punishment than a painless (mostly?) death.
 
ĐynastҰ said:
Bush will win *cough* fixed *cough*

Why the ***k is he still in!?!?!?! over 50% of Americans say they dont want him in power...duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Ome_Vince said:
I'm throwing a party if Bush loses, who wants to come grab some beer when that happens? :p
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Um, Bush isn't up for re-election. It's just congressmen, state, and local officials. But I'd still be surprised if he lost re-election at this point.


On topic - Saddam's death solves nothing, but I still welcome it. Anyone calling it an "eye for an eye" is hardly right. It's more like one eye for hundreds of thousands. It certainly doesn't change the situation, but if it helps even one victim of his find closure then I think it's worth it.

But, it would've been a helluva lot easier if he had just been shot when he was first found.
 
Saddams death will greatly GREATLY escalate the civil war.

Don't you see? Sunni's see him as a national hero, and his death will cause outrage and violence. Shiites hated him because he propped up the sunni minority, so they are very happy about his death.

That means..you guessed it, more civil war!

It doesnt matter though, even if he was not executed the shiites would have gone batshit insane and started killing everybody.
 
I bet bush will use this as "another victory" for him
 
Saddam must have been such a great guy. :rolleyes:
 
sea said:
I believe that killing is wrong, always. It can be necessary, or justified, but that does not make it right or any less evil an act. To take a life is a horrible thing to do (euthanasia aside), and I honestly can't imagine why anyone would endorse it. Morals aside, I'm pretty sure rotting in a prison cell for the rest of his life would be a more lasting and effective punishment for Saddam.
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He's almost 70 years old. Rest of his life could be just a year or two away.
 
I'm against death penalty but in this case I agree with this punishment (also because judicial error is impossible). Unfortunately there is no equal punishment for freak like Saddam Hussein.
Burn in hell Saddam!
 
zleppelin said:
On a more serious note, Saddam is a ***** for not killing himself the moment his capture became imminent, like Hitler did. He could still kill himself though. I bet he could stop breathing or bang his head against a wall until he breaks it, or maybe stab himself in the chest with a sharpened toothbrush =)
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Isn't it against his religious belief to commit suicide? I mean, doesn't his religion believe commiting suicide is a sin?
 
As much as I feel he should be punished, his death sentence sits very uncomfortably with me. I don't see it helping anything in Iraq frankly. It will likely make many very happy, but some will be very unhappy and use it as another excuse for violence (like they really need another).
 
Some of you need to understand the Qu'ran and its teachings before jumping to conclusions. Muslim acts are seen as 'terrorism' only because the Qu'ran teaches that you will enter 'Heaven' no matter what you do. Christians believe you go to 'Hell', and therefore do everything they can not to go there. Muslims effectively have...well...nothing to loose as it were. Specifically therefore any 'suicides' or other acts of 'terrorism' is TECHNICALLY a simple clash in beliefs surely? We see it as wrong because of our teachings. They see it as less of an issue because they believe they will go to heaven, therefore no matter what they do, their afterlife (if there is such a thing) is secured.

Just finished watching The Da Vinci Code and Kingdom Of Heaven. Both extremely religious based films. Helps you understand why religious acts are the way they are/were.
 
Polaris said:
I'm against death penalty but in this case I agree with this punishment (also because judicial error is impossible).
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lol!

members of the prosecution and defense were murdered, witnesses for both sides were murdered or didnt show up to court, there were no preliminary hearings, and the court itself was set up by the US who excluded any mention of past US/Saddam dealings


a nation illegally invades another sovereign nation, it's leaders are put on trial (kangaroo court set up by invading nation) for war crimes similiar to ones commited by the invading nation only on a much smaller scale ...and then sentenced to death for those crimes while no charges are laid upon the invading nation ..this is just lol insanity ..and as a another day goes by another 100 iraqis die as a result of US intrevention in iraq


Saddam may have been a murderous bastard but he was a murderous bastard of the US' making who was supported for over 30 years ...from his early days as a paid CIA thug charged with assasinating the leader of the ruling party to his later years when the US supported him with WMD/intelligence as was commiting the worst of his atrocities with their full knowledge and consent ...one of saddam's most famous incidents is one in which saddam rounded up 5000 leftists and suspected opposition members to be executed shortly after taking power ..the list was compiled and given to Saddam by the CIA as a means of consolidating power.

for bush to declare this as a victory for democracy is a farce that I'm sure only he could appreciate
 
members of the prosecution and defense were murdered, witnesses for both sides were murdered or didnt show up to court, there were no preliminary hearings, and the court itself was set up by the US who excluded any mention of past US/Saddam dealings


a nation illegally invades another sovereign nation, it's leaders are put on trial (kangaroo court set up by invading nation) for war crimes similiar to ones commited by the invading nation only on a much smaller scale ...and then sentenced to death for those crimes while no charges are laid upon the invading nation ..this is just lol insanity ..and as a another day goes by another 100 iraqis die as a result of US intrevention in iraq


Saddam may have been a murderous bastard but he was a murderous bastard of the US' making who was supported for over 30 years ...from his early days as a paid CIA thug charged with assasinating the leader of the ruling party to his later years when the US supported him with WMD/intelligence as was commiting the worst of his atrocities with their full knowledge and consent ...one of saddam's most famous incidents is one in which saddam rounded up 5000 leftists and suspected opposition members to be executed shortly after taking power ..the list was compiled and given to Saddam by the CIA as a means of consolidating power.
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qft , you have to ask yourself why do people have a 5 year memory when it comes to political relations?, anything that happened before somehow becomes irrelevant to alot of people. The relationship and business dealings just seem to go out the window when a group change their politcal interests, yet they are completely relevant to the situation today.
 
ĐynastҰ said:
Some of you need to understand the Qu'ran and its teachings before jumping to conclusions. Muslim acts are seen as 'terrorism' only because the Qu'ran teaches that you will enter 'Heaven' no matter what you do. Christians believe you go to 'Hell', and therefore do everything they can not to go there. Muslims effectively have...well...nothing to loose as it were. Specifically therefore any 'suicides' or other acts of 'terrorism' is TECHNICALLY a simple clash in beliefs surely? We see it as wrong because of our teachings. They see it as less of an issue because they believe they will go to heaven, therefore no matter what they do, their afterlife (if there is such a thing) is secured.

Just finished watching The Da Vinci Code and Kingdom Of Heaven. Both extremely religious based films. Helps you understand why religious acts are the way they are/were.
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Islam and Judaism are way more strict when it comes to heaven and hell compared to the modern interpretation of Christianity. Most modern christians either don't believe in hell or simply believe that all sins are forgiven as long as they have faith in god.

Anyway, there's been suicides/attempts by muslims in guantanamo, so I don't see why a leader of a secular dictatorship wouldn't consider suicide.
 
CptStern said:
lol!

members of the prosecution and defense were murdered, witnesses for both sides were murdered or didnt show up to court, there were no preliminary hearings, and the court itself was set up by the US who excluded any mention of past US/Saddam dealings


a nation illegally invades another sovereign nation, it's leaders are put on trial (kangaroo court set up by invading nation) for war crimes similiar to ones commited by the invading nation only on a much smaller scale ...and then sentenced to death for those crimes while no charges are laid upon the invading nation ..this is just lol insanity ..and as a another day goes by another 100 iraqis die as a result of US intrevention in iraq


Saddam may have been a murderous bastard but he was a murderous bastard of the US' making who was supported for over 30 years ...from his early days as a paid CIA thug charged with assasinating the leader of the ruling party to his later years when the US supported him with WMD/intelligence as was commiting the worst of his atrocities with their full knowledge and consent ...one of saddam's most famous incidents is one in which saddam rounded up 5000 leftists and suspected opposition members to be executed shortly after taking power ..the list was compiled and given to Saddam by the CIA as a means of consolidating power.

for bush to declare this as a victory for democracy is a farce that I'm sure only he could appreciate
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sadam got help of the CIA too?

dam looks like the USA really likes to hav enemyes

cuz osama got help of the CIA or the USA too right?
 
Yup, The USA have had their dick in sadam from the word go,
 
<RJMC> said:
sadam got help of the CIA too?

dam looks like the USA really likes to hav enemyes

cuz osama got help of the CIA or the USA too right?
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ya pretty much ..there really is no "good guys and bad guys" in global politics ...just shades of grey and a heck of a lot of black


CIA also helped support a terrorist group that bombed various targets in baghdad during the 90's ..in one case a busload of students were killed ...oh btw the leader of that group became interim prime minister after the invasion


“If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist” - George Bush


yup, well said georgy
 
ĐynastҰ said:
Some of you need to understand the Qu'ran and its teachings before jumping to conclusions. Muslim acts are seen as 'terrorism' only because the Qu'ran teaches that you will enter 'Heaven' no matter what you do. Christians believe you go to 'Hell', and therefore do everything they can not to go there. Muslims effectively have...well...nothing to loose as it were. Specifically therefore any 'suicides' or other acts of 'terrorism' is TECHNICALLY a simple clash in beliefs surely? We see it as wrong because of our teachings. They see it as less of an issue because they believe they will go to heaven, therefore no matter what they do, their afterlife (if there is such a thing) is secured.

Just finished watching The Da Vinci Code and Kingdom Of Heaven. Both extremely religious based films. Helps you understand why religious acts are the way they are/were.
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Qu'ran said if you fight for Allah, you will enter "Heaven" ( tho you still need to pray etc.. ).
Minority of Muslims nowadays has been brainwashed by some, the told them if you suicide bomb you'll get straight to heaven ( usually those people sinned alot ).

so what i want to say Qu'ran teaches us that suicide = bad not matter what.
 
CptStern said:
ya pretty much ..there really is no "good guys and bad guys" in global politics ...just shades of grey and a heck of a lot of black


CIA also helped support a terrorist group that bombed various targets in baghdad during the 90's ..in one case a busload of students were killed ...oh btw the leader of that group became interim prime minister after the invasion


“If You Harbor Terrorists, You Are a Terrorist” - George Bush


yup, well said georgy
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Start brushing up on your knowledge of the Contras and US backed terrorism in latin america - it looks like Ortega is making a comeback.
 
Just hang him and his mistress in the middle of Baghdad, just to humiliate him; Do the same thing we did to Musolini.
 
KaMaKaZi-BLiTz said:
Just hang him and his mistress in the middle of Baghdad, just to humiliate him; Do the same thing we did to Musolini.
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You didn't do anything to Mussolini. The Italians took care of that on their own.
 
What's this about his mistress, and is it really relevant?
 
He was hung up by his figgin.

Because, you see, a figgin is a tart, and...yeah.
 
Polaris said:
I'm against death penalty but in this case I agree with this punishment (also because judicial error is impossible).
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CptStern said:
lol!

members of the prosecution and defense were murdered, witnesses for both sides were murdered or didnt show up to court, there were no preliminary hearings, and the court itself was set up by the US who excluded any mention of past US/Saddam dealings
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Then he must be innocent, right?
 
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