Should homosexual marrige be allowed in Australia?

[the_rebel_medic]

For school, I need opinions,
if yes, why?
if no, Why?

for the record I voted yes because it doesn't harm anyone if they do.

 

[Lemonking]

I dont care If some one likes to get stuffed in the butt,neither should you.
So if they want be married so be it.

 

[15357]

Well, if I say no, I'll get flamed to hell. If I said yes, I'd be lying.


yes.

 

[Ludah]

Yes.

It doesn't hurt anybody and it's between two consenting adults. People like to say it's an attack on faith and that it cheapens marriage, but I don't buy it. There are so many different varieties of faiths that you can't exclude one that tolerates homosexuality, and divorce isn't illegal. We even allow people to remarry. If that doesn't cheapen marriage, I don't know what does.

Thus far, nobody's put up a good argument against it.

 

[Remus]

for the record I voted yes because it doesn't harm anyone if they do.

I voted no. For the record it does harm someone. Those gay couples that adopt a child. Who gets ridiculed for having gay "parents", the kid. NO GAY MARRIAGE PERIOD!

P.S. In some cases the kid develops gay tendencies from his parents:x

 

[the_rebel_medic]

15357 this is for opinions, if u want to say no, just provide a reason and we SHOULD accept it.

edit: for example, I accept Redneck's argument even though I dont agree

 

[Ludah]

I voted no. For the record it does harm someone. Those gay couples that adopt a child. Who gets ridiculed for having gay "parents", the kid. NO GAY MARRIAGE PERIOD!

So basically, the fault lies with an intolerant and ignorant society that ridicules homosexuals? Okay, nice to know we've gotten that cleared up.

(P.S. Adoption is an entirely different matter from marriage)

P.S. In some cases the kid develops gay tendencies from his parents:x

This is a joke, right?

 

[Solaris]

I voted no. For the record it does harm someone. Those gay couples that adopt a child. Who gets ridiculed for having gay "parents", the kid. NO GAY MARRIAGE PERIOD!

P.S. In some cases the kid develops gay tendencies from his parents:x

Find a source for that or shush.

 

[Remus]

This is a joke, right?

I wish it was

 

[15357]

I don't mind gay people that much, but they shouldn't be able to adopt kids. But since we're talking about marriage, if we grant it, and the next thing they'll be wanting adoption rights. The poor kid will be tortured through school as gayness is taboo.



Logical fallacy in my argument though.

 

[Lemonking]

I wish it was

are you gay?

 

[Ludah]

I wish it was

You know what? I'll bite this time.

Show me some evidence.

 

[Remus]

I've disrupted this thread mission accomplished:naughty: .

That stuff I said about kids developing gay tendencies from their gay parents I saw on a documentary on Discovery Channel, I didn't make it up.

 

[Ludah]

That stuff I said about kids developing gay tendencies from their gay parents I saw on a documentary on Discovery Channel, I didn't make it up.

Surely then you can find some scientific studies and articles corraborating this phenomenon.

I'm curious as to what "gay tendencies" entail. Do tell!

 

[the_rebel_medic]

Indeed, are you implying they are pushed towards being attracted to other men? what if both parents are female? what then?

 

[Remus]

are you gay?

Yeah that makes sense since I voted against gay marriage.

 

[Ludah]

Yeah that makes sense since I voted against gay marriage.

Could be a self-hater. A lot of homophobes are.

/shrug

 

[Kangy]

Yeah, I guess he's never seen American Beauty.

 

[sinkoman]

I've disrupted this thread mission accomplished:naughty: .

That stuff I said about kids developing gay tendencies from their gay parents I saw on a documentary on Discovery Channel, I didn't make it up.

ZOMFG HE SAW IT ON DISCVERY CHANNEL!!!!!!!!

IT MUST BE TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[venturon]

I just don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to marry.

 

[ríomhaire]

They should get the same benifits (tax, etc) as hetrosexuals are entitled to.

 

[Jintor]

Sexual Preferences should not prohibit people from their rights.

 

[bbson john]

Homosexual marriage does decrease the woldwide population. So I support it.

 

[ríomhaire]

Homosexual marriage does decrease the woldwide population.

How?

 

[The Monkey]

Homosexual marriage does decrease the woldwide population. So I support it.

It does? Allowing gay marrige doesn't increase the number of gays, if that's what you think.

 

[Lucid]

Homosexual marriage shouldn't be allowed at all. >.>
For reasons stated by Redneck, other than the whole man-liking/girl-liking inheritance theory.
It's a sad fact that if somehow this kid goes to school and then one day there's open-house, and his parents come in(two dudes or two chicks) holding hands...
If any of the kid's peers see this, chances are... his social life has been officially ****ed over.
I can' give any scientific evidence for this, but if you've been bullied in school... you'd know it to be true.

Of course that's just my homophobic-biased view on things.

 

[Jintor]

So, two people's lives should be ruined instead of hypothetically one/two/kids.

If the freaking world got over the whole 'Look, two people of the same sex really really like each other!' then that wouldn't be a problem.

 

[Remus]

Whatever I don't care, they can like each other, **** each other and live together, but allowing them to marry each other, well that's a another story. When you make marriage between two gays legal they will expect all the benefits that come with it including the right to adopt a child and that is just wrong.

 

[bliink]

I voted no. For the record it does harm someone. Those gay couples that adopt a child. Who gets ridiculed for having gay "parents", the kid. NO GAY MARRIAGE PERIOD!

P.S. In some cases the kid develops gay tendencies from his parents:x

edit: for example, I accept Redneck's argument even though I dont agree

That doesn't make too much sense, rebel_medic...

I don't agree with redneck, therefore, I reject his argument. Also, I provide proof and backup as to why:

Logical fallacy Red Herring alert!

This fallacy is committed when someone introduces irrelevant material to the issue being discussed, so that everyone's attention is diverted away from the points made, towards a different conclusion.

"You may claim that the death penalty is an ineffective deterrent against crime -- but what about the victims of crime? How do you think surviving family members feel when they see the man who murdered their son kept in prison at their expense? Is it right that they should pay for their son's murderer to be fed and housed?"

Redneck brings up gay adoption in an argument against gay marriage. The former is a red herring, and thus the conclusion he draws is void.

Adopting children is not limited to being married.

 

[The Monkey]

Whatever I don't care, they can like each other, **** each other and live together, but allowing them to marry each other, well that's a another story. When you make marriage between two gays legal they will expect all the benefits that come with it including the right to adopt a child and that is just wrong.

Adoption doesn't come with marrige. Non-married couples can adopt, at least in most countries.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

I like Redneck's thinking.

Problem:

"IDIOTS PERSECUTE GAYS BECAUSE IDIOTS HATE FREEDOM."

Solution:

"MAKE GAYS ILLEGAL, FREE HANDJOBS FOR IDIOTS."

:retarded:


Edit: oh, there's no "retarded" emoticon. Just imagine the face of an extremely retarded person when you think of this brilliant mindset.

 

[Ome_Vince]

Yes,
Why shouldnt gays be allowed to marry? And if kids were to become gay because of their gay parents, isnt that great i mean there's a solution for the overpopulation of the world.
And leaves more beautiful women for straight guys
j/k

 

[who]

dont care about gay marriages, i dont have time for gays, what i think is wrong though is gays adopting kids, if ur gay and want kids then ur actually straight and exceedingly confused!

im not going to accept people flaming me for my opinion either, being gay doesnt give you the right to dictate to people what is wrong and what isnt, so i dont expect any abuse because of my opinion.

im not saying im right or wrong, thats just how i see it, gays shouldnt have kids, kids should grow up with a natural family (where atall possible) because this was how nature intended it. if those kids then become gay so be it.

and lesbian marriages are great, cant fail them. its the other that bugs me, the whole insertion thing.. ITS THE WRONG HOLE!!!!!!

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

im not going to accept people flaming me for my opinion either, being gay doesnt give you the right to dictate to people what is wrong and what isnt, so i dont expect any abuse because of my opinion.

Being straight doesn't give you that right either.

 

[Ludah]

Ah, the classic "it's not natural" argument.

Well, I guess we're pretty ****ed then. Y'know, what with living in buildings, taking medicine, driving cars, caring for the ill, wearing clothing... that sorta thing.

 

[Sparda]

Not in my damn country…
I voted yes however because I don’t really care how other people choose to live their lives…
As for homosexual tendencies being passed on from their parents dose happen, but not very often,
it only happens to 1 out of 20, plus if the child becomes gay it’s the way he/she chooses to be so I really don’t care ether way, As long as their all happy.


EDIT: Ok I know I’m going to get flamed but…Homosexuality is not normal, if it was two males would be able to have children, same with females.

Don’t get me wrong, one of my best friends is gay and he agrees totally.

 

[Ludah]

I wish people would actually define the term "homosexual tendencies" before they continue to bandy it about. What are they? Are they more open to same-sex relations? Are they effeminate? Do they toss their wrist out? Do they watch more Will & Grace? Come on, people.

Sparda, you say the chances of such tendencies being passed on is around 1 in 20. Well, isn't that pretty weak evidence? For all you know, it's mere probability that applies just as much to heterosexual parents as homosexual ones.

Ok I know I’m going to get flamed but…Homosexuality is not normal, if it was two males would be able to have children, same with females.

Don’t get me wrong, one of my best friends is gay and he agrees totally.

I don't see how normalcy should be a factor in... anything, really.

 

[Sparda]

I wish people would actually define the term "homosexual tendencies" before they continue to bandy it about. What are they? Are they more open to same-sex relations? Are they effeminate? Do they toss their wrist out? Do they watch more Will & Grace? Come on, people.

So you don’t know the difference between Homosexual or Heterosexual.

Sparda, you say the chances of such tendencies being passed on is around 1 in 20. Well, isn't that pretty weak evidence? For all you know, it's mere probability that applies just as much to heterosexual parents as homosexual ones.

In fact thats dead right.

I don't see how normalcy should be a factor in... anything, really.

That doesn't surprise me.



Please one more thing could you be a bit more mature?

 

[Sulkdodds]

There is no such thing as normality.

Furthermore, I have never seen anybody put up a good argument against homosexual marriage that is supported by valid evidence. Not once. All arguments tend to rest on the following (unsupported) assertions:

1. Gay parents are more likely to produce gay kids than straight parents are.
2. This is necessarily a bad thing.
3. Their own disgust at homosexuality constitutes universal evidence of its badness.
4. Marriage is 'sacred'.

Where's that list of sarcastic reasons why gays shouldn't marry when you need it?

I challenge anyone to show me statistics showing clearly that gay parents are more likely to raise gay children than straight parents are.

As for those arguing that children of gay parents will be maligned...whose fault is that? And how exactly do you expect society to become more permissive if gays are denied fundamental rights?

 

[Gunner]

I don't live in australia so I don't care, in fact I don't care about their problems. There are more important things in life to think about.