so is AVP: requiem really that bad?

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i read reviews and it seems that it is total poop? but less poopish than the first AVP.

anyone seen it yet?
 
Better than the first by a long shot

Still a bit meh i thought
 
It's ballsy, I tell you. F*ck what other people say. This is DARKSIDE, coming to you LIVE, telling you to buy yourself a ticket, sit your ass down in that theater, maybe get you some motherf*cking popcorn if you like that shit and WATCH THIS MOVIE.

Seriously, myself being a huge predator fan, and Greenkata who happens to be perhaps the biggest aliens fan I've ever known (one look at his room and all the memorabilia--including actual set props--will tell you that), and one of our other friends who wasn't really vested in either franchise, we all went and saw the movie and we had our minds blown. And everybody was leaving when the movie was finished and we were still sitting there during the credits talking about how badass it was, and one of the managers comes up and he's like, "There's really nothing after the credits."

"MAN, we LOVE credits!" And we sat there and talked about how Wolf f*ckin' shoryukened through the street and punched the predalien in the face.

Watch this shit. F*ck what everyone else says with their 1/10 scores, because they don't know. They don't know.
 
Stay tuned for AvP3, when Ripley and Dutch **** on camera.
 
oooookay....might consider watching it. i damn hope it repays at least some of the 15$ ticket.
 
$15? Movies are expensive where you live. Movies here are only $6.
 
F*ck critics, they hate everything that doesn't pander to their overblown sense of aesthetics in cinema. I read some of those Rotten Tomatoes reviews and they're all garbage. Garbage reviews from people who don't know shit about aliens or predators and continue to hark on and on about how they wish Ridley Scott was back at the helm. Boo-f*cking-hoo, critics; this movie couldn't be more about aliens vs. predators if it was set on Ryushi and the only human in it was Machiko Noguchi.

I hate critics. They sap all the goddamned joy out of film. Seriously these reviews are all formulaic repeats of each other: you start off with a sarcastic tone and a nod to Paul Anderson, then make a snarky comment about how this movie is somehow worse. Then you go into coming up with a bunch of problems that DON'T ACTUALLY EXIST, deride the movie, the actors, the franchises, and then lament the whole thing because RIDLEY SCOTT RIDLEY SCOTT RIDLEY SCOTT. F*cking fanboys don't whine as much as critics do.

Some of the things they say are ridiculous, as well. Among those 'problems that don't exist' that I mentioned, take the review from efilmcritic.com:

A blind moron said:
If “Requiem” wasn’t horrible enough of a picture to start with, it’s also impossible to view, with entire chunks of the narrative and action lost to total darkness that seems to defeat the purpose of the shiny new R-rating. Instead, the audience has to squint to see the bloodshed or decipher the expressions (and I use that term ironically) on the actors. It’s also futile to figure out what the Aliens and Predators are doing at any given moment of the film.
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Get your eyes checked, fool. I, nor either of my friends had any trouble seeing what was going on. Also, we didn't poll the audience, but I bet you didn't either, so how would you know if the audience had to squint? Are you looking at the audience instead of the movie? Maybe THAT'S why you can't see when the predator put on the AWESOME GLOVE(tm) and f*cking ripped through a city street.

Seriously, if you're a fan of the movies, just watch the damn thing. I'm telling you it's a good movie, and if you don't agree, you're wrong. That's the bottom line, plain and simple. You are wrong. Because this movie was cool, and being a fan of the Yautja let me tell you I'd drill this movie into the ground verbally if I didn't like it. But I liked it. That should tell you something.

Hell not only would I have ridden the movie, but my friend next to me who owns actual pieces of equipment from the set of Aliens, owns actual MOLDS, actual working pulse rifles, has a bedroom lined with aliens figures including a rare 1978 recalled figure, all that, ALL of that, if it wasn't a good movie faithful to the franchise I don't think he would've gone to the midnight premier and then seen it like six times since.

F*ck critics. Bitches don't know shit, need to be sent to colony LV-246 to rot.
 
No it wasn't. It was fun. It was about a boy and his giant alien transforming robot.
 
Warbie said:
Transformers was rubbish.
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Darkside55 said:
$15? Movies are expensive where you live. Movies here are only $6.
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That MUST be the matinee price, right? Or maybe the early-bird special?

I will definitely wait for the DVD of this one. I can't spend the money and time to be so disappointed (judging solely by the disappointing first movie).
 
Yeah, matinee price, but it's still only $9 at night, which is when I saw the movie. $15 is outrageous.





Also, to Samon and Warbie, again:

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Man you two aren't even old enough to know Transformers, shut your traps, human germs.
 
...you just crossed the line.

I have always been on amiable terms with you, my friend, and I had hoped that we would have a long and lasting friendship despite our differences of opinion. Despite that, I always maintain a contingency plan against everyone I know in case something goes bad and I have to...dispose of them. I'm terribly sorry it came to this my friend, but you've angered me in a way that knows no recompense other than your demise.

To wit:

I'M GONNA RUB YA OUT, SAMON! I'M GONNA RRRRRRRRRUB YA OUT!

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*phones Samon's next of kin*
 
The alien and the predator are probably the greatest designs to ever come out of mainstream cinema. I'm gonna see it, no matter what. More blood is enough for me.
 
I'm going to watch this film, and I'm going to enjoy it.
 
All my friends say it sux as well. They say the CGI is terrible, but I am gonna watch it nevertheless.

Oh and Transformers is awesome, I mean if you were to watch serious movies all your life, your head will explode. EXPLODE I TELL YOU! You have to learn to enjoy and blow and glow movie once in a while for god's sake.
 
Darkside55 said:
Man you two aren't even old enough to know Transformers, shut your traps, human germs.
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Bah - i'm almost 30 and had a huge colection of transformer vids untill my mum sent them to some foreign country as charity :/
 
Warbie said:
Bah - i'm almost 30 and had a huge colection of transformer vids untill my mum sent them to some foreign country as charity :/
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30? But that makes you a child of the eighties. We're of an age...why...why do you say such things then? Are you just mad because of that incident? It's ok, man. All our mothers did it. Garage sales, or charities, or flea markets, or the trash bin for some unfortunate kids. It's ok brother, you don't have to become jaded and hate on your childhood because of it. Cry on Darkside's shoulder, I am here for you.

We're of an age, you and I. I know you can't really hate the Transformers movie. I know, because as I always say, we children of the eighties all carry the love of giant robots in our hearts. You can't hate transformers. You just can't, unless you're broken. I don't think you're broken, Warbie.
 
AVP looks like crap,seriously

first one was crap and this one dont look diferent

if is all for the blood and gore and alien and predators killing each other then get into a slaughterhouse or meat store disguised as a alien or predator
 
Darkside55 said:
Seriously, if you're a fan of the movies, just watch the damn thing. I'm telling you it's a good movie, and if you don't agree, you're wrong. That's the bottom line, plain and simple. You are wrong.
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Darkside55 said:
Because this movie was cool, and being a fan of the Yautja let me tell you I'd drill this movie into the ground verbally if I didn't like it. But I liked it. That should tell you something.
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I have no idea what the hell you're talking about...


Darkside55 said:
30? But that makes you a child of the eighties. We're of an age...why...why do you say such things then? Are you just mad because of that incident? It's ok, man. All our mothers did it. Garage sales, or charities, or flea markets, or the trash bin for some unfortunate kids. It's ok brother, you don't have to become jaded and hate on your childhood because of it. Cry on Darkside's shoulder, I am here for you.

We're of an age, you and I. I know you can't really hate the Transformers movie. I know, because as I always say, we children of the eighties all carry the love of giant robots in our hearts. You can't hate transformers. You just can't, unless you're broken. I don't think you're broken, Warbie.
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Oh I think someone is definitely broken. Upstairs that is... :|


<RJMC> said:
AVP looks like crap,seriously

first one was crap and this one dont look diferent

if is all for the blood and gore and alien and predators killing each other then get into a slaughterhouse or meat store disguised as a alien or predator
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QFT
 
What did you think of the first AvP Darkside?
 
AVP looks like crap,seriously

first one was crap and this one dont look diferent

if is all for the blood and gore and alien and predators killing each other then get into a slaughterhouse or meat store disguised as a alien or predator
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Truth.

Seriously, if you're a fan of the movies, just watch the damn thing. I'm telling you it's a good movie, and if you don't agree, you're wrong. That's the bottom line, plain and simple. You are wrong.
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Also to be a part of the argument. Transformers was rubbish.
 
Darkside55 said:
30? But that makes you a child of the eighties. We're of an age...why...why do you say such things then? Are you just mad because of that incident? It's ok, man. All our mothers did it. Garage sales, or charities, or flea markets, or the trash bin for some unfortunate kids. It's ok brother, you don't have to become jaded and hate on your childhood because of it. Cry on Darkside's shoulder, I am here for you.

We're of an age, you and I. I know you can't really hate the Transformers movie. I know, because as I always say, we children of the eighties all carry the love of giant robots in our hearts. You can't hate transformers. You just can't, unless you're broken. I don't think you're broken, Warbie.
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I actually didn't mind Transformers - I just like it when you go off on a rant. It could have been better, mind. It smacked of Transformers meets Dawson's Creek and it never felt like the Transformers were the stars of the show. There was just way too much crap with those annoying GIs nobody gave a crap about, the teenage pair, and the hacker you can find under the definition of token black guy in most dictionaries. When shit blew up I did cheer, though, and embarrassed my family by making transforming noises when they transformed - which was hardly ever. Come to think of it, how much dialogue was there between the Transformers at all? I remember very little. And the Decepticons, we saw like 1 minute of them! Fun, wasted opportunity. I am still a little broken.
 
Any movie that focuses more on megan's abs instead of the robots it's supposed to be about, is good in my book.
 
Eejit said:
What did you think of the first AvP Darkside?
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Didn't care for it. My main problems with it were three-fold:

1. Storyline
2. Lack of action
3. The human characters

Now, certain parts of the story I can kind of get behind. The predators are notorious for seeding worlds as popular hunting grounds and returning to them every couple hundred years, or during times when the unblooded (as we see in the film) go through their initiations. And I could kind of get behind the fact that they set up this massive temple for that particular purpose, but it was one of those "Eh..." kind of things. The whole thing about people worshipping them as gods and sacrificing themselves for the hunt, I didn't really get down on that. I figured it was rather stupid, and dialogue like,

"What was this place called again?"
"Sacrificial chamber..."

didn't help either. The whole nonsense about the heat signature meant to call humans to the site was really stupid as well. But I guess they had to come up with something. In the original AvP comics by Dark Horse the Predators carry a queen onboard their ship, and the facehuggers plant chestbursters in local livestock on the planet Ryushi. So, if you were to adapt the comic book storyline to present-day Earth, then the story would have been facehuggers planting eggs in cattle. You can already see that's a much, MUCH worse story. So while the story for AvP isn't great, it could've been worse.

That being said I didn't expect much of a story beyond aliens fighting predators--the movie could literally been two hours of aliens fighting predators without any exposition and I would've been happy, so long as the action was good and interesting. Neither of these is fulfilled in the first AvP with the exception of Scar, who fights like a champ and does manage to do some pretty cool stuff, but not enough. The whole thing's rather lackluster. There weren't enough aliens to fight to begin with, and with something like that you'd expect there to be a lot of tension between the last predator and a lone alien drone, but no, you don't get any of that. So while he does do some neat tricks (especially against the queen, or the xenomorph t-rex as I like to call her in this movie), on the whole it's rather forgettable.

Third problem is the humans. Seriously, gtfo humans. Nobody even likes you. You're all forgettable except for Weyland, because of who he is; "sacrificial chamber" guy only because of his annoying voice and stupid line; and woman-who's-supposed-to-be-Machiko, except nowhere near as cool, and not really deserving of a clan mark. Respect, perhaps, acknowledgement, but not a clan mark. So they were really in there to just fill screen time.

Now, in Requiem, these things are addressed:

Storyline picks up from the first movie so you're already kind of thinking, "Ok, all that really matters is the predalien. Everything before doesn't really matter, focus on the predalien." And within the first five minutes the ship crashes and that's an excuse for facehuggers everywhere. And as I said, I'm perfectly happy with little-to-no exposition and just dropping aliens and predators into a setting to battle it out.

Second part, action. This time, we don't have three unbloodeds, we get WOLF, who's one of the elite predators. He's not an elder, but he's one of the species' best fighters, best trackers. You don't need any other predators because Wolf will handle it. Wolf gets the job done.

And so he comes to Earth and immediately he's thrust into a situation where he's heavily outnumbered by aliens. Aliens everywhere. The sheer volume of aliens he faces ensures that there's going to be lots of action, and even if it wasn't good action--which it is--the quantity of it would make up for it. Even if he was just going around stabbing aliens unenthusiastically with a combi-stick, you're still going to be like, "Damn, he stabbed a lot of aliens." But he doesn't; he's throwing shuriken, and setting up laser nets, and he's got his Awesome Glove and his razor whip, and he's tracking aliens and using corrosive acid to cover his tracks, and he's baiting them with traps and live bait, all sorts of stuff. And of course there are parts where he just starts brawling. Like, the last battle, I don't want to spoil it for anyone but he's a brawler.

And the humans don't really get in on the action, they're just there to be meat and move the story along. They don't do anything notable, not a lot of time is spent on them, and thus they don't detract from the experience. I can say they 'sort of' add to the experience in that it's cool watching the military fight aliens, and of course the aliens need to be shown killing off people so they fill that niche. All-in-all it's an accurate depiction of what would happen if a small town really was overrun by aliens.

So, you know, I'm always baffled at how people are coming in here saying it's a bad movie, or critics saying it's a bad movie. I'm curious as to what these people even want in an Alien vs. Predator movie. You have aliens...you have a predator...they fight. Were you expecting Citizen Kane? I mean come on, people. Minor spoiler, there's a part where Wolf rips off one of his plasma casters and reconfigures it into a pistol, and he's blasting up an alien-infested building. Are you telling me that isn't what you came for? What, were you expecting an alien with a monocle and a predator in a top hat to sit over a cup of tea and have friendly discourse? People, SHIT GETS F*CKED UP IN THIS MOVIE. My God, you guys, have you absolutely no love for shit just getting f*cked the hell up? I mean because that's what I came in for. I came in thinking, "I didn't like the first one, but I'm still going to reserve judgement, because maybe shit gets f*cked up." And it did.

Oh, lord, did it ever.

So seriously, anyone who didn't like the movie I stand by what I say: you're wrong. Because obviously you weren't there for aliens versus a predator, you were there for God-knows-what, and you might be mad because somehow it didn't deliver to your expectations. As for me, that was my only expectation, and I even had to reserve my negative feelings about the first movie enough to give the second one a chance, and I loved it. So seriously, shut up, you detractors. Combi-sticks to all of ya!


Also Remus, seriously, if you don't love giant robots and you're a child of the eighties, you're broken. It's an inborn gene. Lambda, shut up, I won't here things about giant robots from someone who watches a lackluster series like Evangelion, and furthermore someone who has a boorish, unfeeling angel like Rei Ayanami as their avatar. Transformers rocks your house, your momma's house, your daddy's house, your great Uncle Joe with the glass eye's house. Everybody's motherf*cking house. 'Til all are one, for the Allspark.
 
Samon said:
Who cares. Blew hard anyway. Like Xen.
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Thing is, as Darkside said, i'm a child of the 80s and couldn't help but love seeing Transformers on the big screen. The same went for the original AvP, which I thought was pretty shit. We don't get fun adventure/sci-fi these days - it's all 'gritty' realim/acting, twists for the sake of twists, trying too hard to be cool/witty, and waaay too much political correctness - so we just have to make do.

*walks away mumbling something about Robocop*
 
Warbie said:
When shit blew up I did cheer, though, and embarrassed my family by making transforming noises when they transformed - which was hardly ever. Come to think of it, how much dialogue was there between the Transformers at all? I remember very little. And the Decepticons, we saw like 1 minute of them! Fun, wasted opportunity. I am still a little broken.

...

Thing is, as Darkside said, i'm a child of the 80s and couldn't help but love seeing Transformers on the big screen. The same went for the original AvP, which I thought was pretty shit. We don't get fun adventure/sci-fi these days - it's all 'gritty' realim/acting, twists for the sake of twists, trying too hard to be cool/witty, and waaay too much political correctness - so we just have to make do.

*walks away mumbling something about Robocop*
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See man, I knew you still loved! *Hugs Warbie*

Also, nine minutes of dialogue between Prime and Megatron, mostly G1 lines. I could uh, sit here and quote them to you...I've already memorized them...all the dialogue in the movie, save for the humans. But I'll spare you. :laugh:

Oh btw, Robocop vs. Terminator WILL be happening.
 
9 mins, really? Even so, there was too much fluff. Should have been all dialogue and action between Transformers from both sides. We hardly got to see most of them :(

I do still love, though :)

Oh, Peter Weller's Robocop > any Terminator and Clarence Boddicker is THE best movie villain in history. 'Are you a good cop, hotshot'?
 
I can't watch Boddicker anymore without hearing, "Dumbass!"

"I killed Murphy, dumbass!"

Not that that's a bad thing. ;) And yeah, Robocop > Terminator any day of the week, but it will be cool to watch them square off against each other. Or, one hopes it would be. TBH my expectations for that one aren't too high after seeing what's become of the Terminator franchise, and how long the Robocop franchise has been out. Plus the source material wasn't all that great to begin with (the Dark Horse comics).

And yeah, there was a lot of fluff from the humans in Transformers. There was some filler dialogue from the Autobots too, but not too much. I think Bay, someone who didn't grow up with Transformers, someone who didn't know anything about the franchise beforehand, was reluctant to have them be the focus of the movie. We still get a lot of good transformer action, and some good dialogue (there's only one bit between Megatron and Starscream and it makes absolutely no sense unless you know about their history, but it's a great part), but there could have been more. So hopefully in the 2009 film, because of the response to this film, Bay will feature more of the transformers and less of the humans. I don't grudge the humans in the movie...they did have to be there to set things up. With the exception of Beast Wars, Transformers have always had humans around to play off of. The new Transformers Animated series that debuted last week has a main human character, and that show's pure gold.
 
Darkside55 said:
Didn't care for it. My main problems with it were three-fold:

1. Storyline
2. Lack of action
3. The human characters

Now, certain parts of the story I can kind of get behind. The predators are notorious for seeding worlds as popular hunting grounds and returning to them every couple hundred years, or during times when the unblooded (as we see in the film) go through their initiations. And I could kind of get behind the fact that they set up this massive temple for that particular purpose, but it was one of those "Eh..." kind of things. The whole thing about people worshipping them as gods and sacrificing themselves for the hunt, I didn't really get down on that. I figured it was rather stupid, and dialogue like,

"What was this place called again?"
"Sacrificial chamber..."

didn't help either. The whole nonsense about the heat signature meant to call humans to the site was really stupid as well. But I guess they had to come up with something. In the original AvP comics by Dark Horse the Predators carry a queen onboard their ship, and the facehuggers plant chestbursters in local livestock on the planet Ryushi. So, if you were to adapt the comic book storyline to present-day Earth, then the story would have been facehuggers planting eggs in cattle. You can already see that's a much, MUCH worse story. So while the story for AvP isn't great, it could've been worse.

That being said I didn't expect much of a story beyond aliens fighting predators--the movie could literally been two hours of aliens fighting predators without any exposition and I would've been happy, so long as the action was good and interesting. Neither of these is fulfilled in the first AvP with the exception of Scar, who fights like a champ and does manage to do some pretty cool stuff, but not enough. The whole thing's rather lackluster. There weren't enough aliens to fight to begin with, and with something like that you'd expect there to be a lot of tension between the last predator and a lone alien drone, but no, you don't get any of that. So while he does do some neat tricks (especially against the queen, or the xenomorph t-rex as I like to call her in this movie), on the whole it's rather forgettable.

Third problem is the humans. Seriously, gtfo humans. Nobody even likes you. You're all forgettable except for Weyland, because of who he is; "sacrificial chamber" guy only because of his annoying voice and stupid line; and woman-who's-supposed-to-be-Machiko, except nowhere near as cool, and not really deserving of a clan mark. Respect, perhaps, acknowledgement, but not a clan mark. So they were really in there to just fill screen time.

Now, in Requiem, these things are addressed:

Storyline picks up from the first movie so you're already kind of thinking, "Ok, all that really matters is the predalien. Everything before doesn't really matter, focus on the predalien." And within the first five minutes the ship crashes and that's an excuse for facehuggers everywhere. And as I said, I'm perfectly happy with little-to-no exposition and just dropping aliens and predators into a setting to battle it out.

Second part, action. This time, we don't have three unbloodeds, we get WOLF, who's one of the elite predators. He's not an elder, but he's one of the species' best fighters, best trackers. You don't need any other predators because Wolf will handle it. Wolf gets the job done.

And so he comes to Earth and immediately he's thrust into a situation where he's heavily outnumbered by aliens. Aliens everywhere. The sheer volume of aliens he faces ensures that there's going to be lots of action, and even if it wasn't good action--which it is--the quantity of it would make up for it. Even if he was just going around stabbing aliens unenthusiastically with a combi-stick, you're still going to be like, "Damn, he stabbed a lot of aliens." But he doesn't; he's throwing shuriken, and setting up laser nets, and he's got his Awesome Glove and his razor whip, and he's tracking aliens and using corrosive acid to cover his tracks, and he's baiting them with traps and live bait, all sorts of stuff. And of course there are parts where he just starts brawling. Like, the last battle, I don't want to spoil it for anyone but he's a brawler.

And the humans don't really get in on the action, they're just there to be meat and move the story along. They don't do anything notable, not a lot of time is spent on them, and thus they don't detract from the experience. I can say they 'sort of' add to the experience in that it's cool watching the military fight aliens, and of course the aliens need to be shown killing off people so they fill that niche. All-in-all it's an accurate depiction of what would happen if a small town really was overrun by aliens.

So, you know, I'm always baffled at how people are coming in here saying it's a bad movie, or critics saying it's a bad movie. I'm curious as to what these people even want in an Alien vs. Predator movie. You have aliens...you have a predator...they fight. Were you expecting Citizen Kane? I mean come on, people. Minor spoiler, there's a part where Wolf rips off one of his plasma casters and reconfigures it into a pistol, and he's blasting up an alien-infested building. Are you telling me that isn't what you came for? What, were you expecting an alien with a monocle and a predator in a top hat to sit over a cup of tea and have friendly discourse? People, SHIT GETS F*CKED UP IN THIS MOVIE. My God, you guys, have you absolutely no love for shit just getting f*cked the hell up? I mean because that's what I came in for. I came in thinking, "I didn't like the first one, but I'm still going to reserve judgement, because maybe shit gets f*cked up." And it did.

Oh, lord, did it ever.

So seriously, anyone who didn't like the movie I stand by what I say: you're wrong. Because obviously you weren't there for aliens versus a predator, you were there for God-knows-what, and you might be mad because somehow it didn't deliver to your expectations. As for me, that was my only expectation, and I even had to reserve my negative feelings about the first movie enough to give the second one a chance, and I loved it. So seriously, shut up, you detractors. Combi-sticks to all of ya!


Also Remus, seriously, if you don't love giant robots and you're a child of the eighties, you're broken. It's an inborn gene. Lambda, shut up, I won't here things about giant robots from someone who watches a lackluster series like Evangelion, and furthermore someone who has a boorish, unfeeling angel like Rei Ayanami as their avatar. Transformers rocks your house, your momma's house, your daddy's house, your great Uncle Joe with the glass eye's house. Everybody's motherf*cking house. 'Til all are one, for the Allspark.
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Now THATS! why I can`t wait to see this on the 18th, I wasstrating to doubt that it was going to be any good after all the negativity regarding it in the press.

You just re-installed my faith in the film with "sh*t gets f*cked up" :D
 
heh...nobody wants to go (and pay) watch it with me. and going alone it's pretty not that fun. hmm...worst case scenario...DVD.

and yea, 15$ is a regular price for any movie here. not premiere or anything like that. (ok, to be precise 10 EU)
 
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