Sofia Coppola's Somewhere

[Harryz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9n9hP_LtL8

Shares similar themes to Lost in Translation (which is always a good thing) and once again Sofia shows impeccable taste when it comes to soundtracks.

 

[Mogi67]

looks promising, ill see this for sure

 

[Yuri]

That doesn't look very interesting. Famous rich guy learns lessons of family from his estranged daughter? Wasn't that the plot of Old Dogs?

 

[Deleted member 56031]

OOOOO THAT looks good

 

[Yorick]

Oh I definitely want to see this.

 

[hot564231]

Samon/Ross will cream his cockney spandex with this news.

 

[Qonfused]

I'm excited.

 

[Lucid]

This actually looks a bit more interesting than the snoozefest that is Lost in Translation.

 

[Bad^Hat]

That doesn't look very interesting. Famous rich guy learns lessons of family from his estranged daughter? Wasn't that the plot of Old Dogs?

Eh, Lost in Translation didn't have a very interesting plot when you broke it down either, but that's not what made it so enjoyable.

Trailer looks good, but there's no way Dorff is gonna top his performance in Alone In The Dark.

 

[Sheepo]

This actually looks a bit more interesting than the snoozefest that is Lost in Translation.

I dunno, I don't see anything that would indicate it should grab your attention more than LIT. Sucks for you

 

[Lucid]

Yeah, you're probably right.
Though, I fail to see how this sucks for me in any way.

Then again, that's one less movie to help me fall asleep.

 

[Sheepo]

Yeah, you're probably right.
Though, I fail to see how this sucks for me in any way.

Naturally.

 

[Yuri]

Eh, Lost in Translation didn't have a very interesting plot when you broke it down either, but that's not what made it so enjoyable.

Trailer looks good, but there's no way Dorff is gonna top his performance in Alone In The Dark.

That's true. But this movie looks like the same movie as Lost in Translation, with neither Bill Murray or Scarlett Johansson. Good luck, movie.

 

[Yorick]

But this movie looks like the same movie as Lost in Translation

What the hell are you talking about now?

 

[Yuri]

Disillusioned famous playboy rich dude gets a glimpse of real life and learns about compassion and love through an unique, human relationship that normal people generally have. Young girlfriend: Lost in Translation. Daughter: Somewhere.

I could be wrong, but I bet I'm not. I am by no means calling Lost in Translation a bad movie, though. But without the reputation and charm of Murray and Johansson, that movie wouldn't have been much. With two unknowns, it's a shoot in the dark. Wes Anderson-inspired soundtracks don't do it alone.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Same basic premise does not equal same movie. Anyway, LiT owes as much to the direction as it does the actors, and honestly Scarlet didn't really play a crucial role. She was great, don't get me wrong, just infinitely more replaceable than Bill.

 

[Asknoone]

Dorff is an interesting bit of casting.

 

[Yuri]

Same basic premise does not equal same movie. Anyway, LiT owes as much to the direction as it does the actors, and honestly Scarlet didn't really play a crucial role. She was great, don't get me wrong, just infinitely more replaceable than Bill.

Yeah I mostly meant Murray, but Johannson is so so so cute so soso ossosos ososooso cute CUTE CUTUEU....



I guess I meant "premise" more than "movie." I was basically trying to say that the plots of both films are kind of generic and lame, so you've really got to rely on the actors and direction to expect a good movie. The trailer didn't promise either of that. Also it is dumb to judge movies on their trailers but I will do it, damn you!

 

[Sheepo]

>It is impossible for a trailer to assure quality
>I'm upset that the trailer doesn't assure quality

 

[Yuri]

Haha, yep.

There's a difference between assuring quality and looking really boring, though.

 

[hot564231]

Dorff is an interesting bit of casting.

Should be fighting Snipe for ultimate vampire.

 

[PoeticRocker]

Yeah this movie doesn't interest me much, though it does look like an enjoyable film.

For those saying Lost in Translation was boring, the movie was mostly about the study of the two characters. In my opinion, I think its a beautiful film about two souls being lost together. What I always liked about the film most though was at the same time it had a dreamlike atmosphere in the Toyko city. But really Bill Murray made it all the more enjoyable for me because of his dry humor throughout the film. And I'm never going to forget the karaoke scene. So powerful.

 

[Harryz]

Wes Anderson-inspired soundtracks don't do it alone.

You obviously know nothing about music if you think Sofia's soundtracks are Wes Anderson inspired.

 

[MuToiD_MaN]

Yeah, really. Needs more Mark Mothersbaugh.

/self-proclaimed spud

 

[Sparta]

Oh man, the trauma of being rich, white and successful. God, this is gonna be a hard watch.

 

[Sheepo]

/missing the point that being rich and successful often have very little to do with some one's happiness and satisfaction and can even end up being a hindrance to it

 

[Yuri]

You obviously know nothing about music if you think Sofia's soundtracks are Wes Anderson inspired.

Clearly, because the Phoenix song which plays in the Somewhere trailer couldn't possibly have any similarities to the slow lo-fi melancholy vocal-centric ballads with which Anderson's films are commonly associated.

Except it does, and has a similar emotional impact of many of Anderson's favorites, like ballads by Nico and The Kinks, or the Elliot Smith's Needle in the Hay from the famous The Royal Tenenbaums scene

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyBB7y8fDU

Anderson seems to be a big inspiration for her in general, which makes sense as they are apparently friends. It is also not a bad thing by any means. Lost in Translation's soundtrack and much of its style is very similar to Anderson's, as is the song and mood of this trailer. All I am saying is, it isn't really enough to grab my attention.

But alas, I obviously know nothing about music.

 

[Harryz]

Clearly, because the Phoenix song which plays in the Somewhere trailer couldn't possibly have any similarities to the slow lo-fi melancholy vocal-centric ballads with which Anderson's films are commonly associated.

Except it does, and has a similar emotional impact of many of Anderson's favorites, like ballads by Nico and The Kinks, or the Elliot Smith's Needle in the Hay from the famous The Royal Tenenbaums scene
.

Because the Phoenix song is similar to Elliot Smith, Velvet Underground and The Kinks, it means her soundtracks are inspired by Anderson? Phoenix song selection couldn't possibly anything to do with that she met Thomas Mars while making Virgin Suicides and now have 2 kids together. Probably not.

Anderson seems to be a big inspiration for her in general, which makes sense as they are apparently friends. It is also not a bad thing by any means. Lost in Translation's soundtrack and much of its style is very similar to Anderson's, as is the song and mood of this trailer. All I am saying is, it isn't really enough to grab my attention.

But alas, I obviously know nothing about music.

In terms of filmaking, Jonze, Anderson and Coppola style have similarities, as you said due to being friends/partners and making their directoral debuts around the same time. But in terms of music, these directors have been brought up on the music they select in their films; such as Wes Anderson using Satyajit Ray tracks in The Darjeeling Limited ost. Its ridculous assumption to make that Sofia's soundtracks are inspired by Wes since she has a few melancholic tracks in the Lost in Translation soundtrack, go listen to the anachronistic Marie Antoinette soundtrack or the ambient Virgin Suicide soundtrack and go figure.

 

[Yuri]

Yes, because the Phoenix song which is the only song in the trailer and the only thing we know about the film's soundtrack so far is comparable to Anderson's choice of soundtrack and you agree, I think it is safe to say he may inspire her soundtrack choices. Especially considering the emphasis on the song because of the lack of dialogue.

A lot of my comparison also comes from the Lost in Translation soundtrack, which I feel has a very similar theme and invokes similar emotions to Anderson's choices. Even if you disagree, to say that I don't know anything about music for making this comparison... it is a bit obnoxious.

Also, you originally responded to a joke I had made about this trailer alone, so bringing up Sofia Copolla's other films is irrelevant.

 

[Harryz]

I'm not sure what your even talking about now.

Yes, because the Phoenix song which is the only song in the trailer and the only thing we know about the film's soundtrack so far is comparable to Anderson's choice of soundtrack and you agree, I think it is safe to say he may inspire her soundtrack choices. Especially considering the emphasis on the song because of the lack of dialogue.

Once again, I'll post this.

Because the Phoenix song is similar to Elliot Smith, Velvet Underground and The Kinks, it means her soundtracks are inspired by Anderson? Phoenix song selection couldn't possibly anything to do with that she met Thomas Mars while making Virgin Suicides and now have 2 kids together. Probably not.

A lot of my comparison also comes from the Lost in Translation soundtrack, which I feel has a very similar theme and invokes similar emotions to Anderson's choices. Even if you disagree, to say that I don't know anything about music for making this comparison... it is a bit obnoxious.

Also, you originally responded to a joke I had made about this trailer alone, so bringing up Sofia Copolla's other films is irrelevant.

What joke did I originally respond to....? Sofia's films are relevant if your talking about how her music taste is Wes inspired. You can't make a comparison to a person judging from one soundtrack and a song in a trailer.

" Even if you disagree, to say that I don't know anything about music for making this comparison... it is a bit obnoxious."

Obnoxious, yes. What I should have said is not having an informed opinion on the comparison, when you know a lot about one person and not the other.

 

[Yuri]

I'll summarize if you didn't understand.

I could be wrong, but I bet I'm not. I am by no means calling Lost in Translation a bad movie, though. But without the reputation and charm of Murray and Johansson, that movie wouldn't have been much. With two unknowns, it's a shoot in the dark. Wes Anderson-inspired soundtracks don't do it alone.

1. Among other things, Lost in Translation had a soundtrack inspired by Wes Anderson
2. Lost in Translation had a fantastic cast
3. This movie looks a lot like Lost in Translation with #1 but not #2

This opinion is based on the only song from the trailer, the Phoenix song, which is very similar to Wes Anderson's soundtrack style. I never said all of Sofia Copolla's soundtracks are inspired by Wes Anderson, you did.

I am not ill informed, I have an opinion based on legitimate comparison. I don't have to say this but I will; I own Lost in Translation, and its soundtrack. The film's style is in the same niche as Anderson's, and its soundtrack is not an exception. This comparison is not limited to the meloncholy ballads, but these songs are the only ones relevant when I also compare them to Somewhere, which only has one song so far.

 

[Harryz]

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This opinion is based on the only song from the trailer, the Phoenix song, which is very similar to Wes Anderson's soundtrack style. I never said all of Sofia Copolla's soundtracks are inspired by Wes Anderson, you did.

Oh Right, I was under the assumption thats what I thought you meant. But still, saying that one song is Anderson inspired, especially that Sofia is dating and has 2 children with the lead singer of the Phoenix band, its...nevermind. I'm finished.

 

[Yorick]

This opinion is based on the only song from the trailer, the Phoenix song, which is very similar to Wes Anderson's soundtrack style. I never said all of Sofia Copolla's soundtracks are inspired by Wes Anderson, you did.

What Wes Anderson film are you talking about that you consider to be similar to the Phoenix song? It's a pretty ridiculous argument to say that one song sounds like someone's entire soundtrack style, especially since bands that I've heard Anderson use include Nico, The Clash, Elliott Smith, Velvet Underground, Cat Stevens, David Bowie, The Zombies, and Sigur Ros who all - in addition to sounding (relatively) different from each other - sound pretty damn different from the Phoenix song.

I will agree that the Phoenix song has a similar sound to Coppola's other films, but Harry already explained why that is.

 

[Yuri]

You're both right, it's only one song so I can't say anything about Somewhere's soundtrack without being terribly presumptuous. But I was already being terribly presumptuous by saying Somewhere looked a lot like Lost in Translation in a lot of ways.

I strongly feel, however, that Lost in Translation's soundtrack is very reminiscent of Wes Anderson's films, specifically The Royal Tenenbaums. And yes, Anderson's soundtracks are very diverse, but I think one of their key components is the lo-fi melancholy ballads.

sayin I don't know nothin bout music hurts my feelings

 

[Mogi67]

You're both right, it's only one song so I can't say anything about Somewhere's soundtrack without being terribly presumptuous. But I was already being terribly presumptuous by saying Somewhere looked a lot like Lost in Translation in a lot of ways.

I strongly feel, however, that Lost in Translation's soundtrack is very reminiscent of Wes Anderson's films, specifically The Royal Tenenbaums. And yes, Anderson's soundtracks are very diverse, but I think one of their key components is the lo-fi melancholy ballads.

sayin I don't know nothin bout music hurts my feelings

I think you're grasping at staws mate. Wes Anderson's films typically uses classic British rock. The soundtrack for Lost in Translation was compiled by Kevin Shields, the frontman for My Bloody Valentine. If you've ever listened to MBV or have looked at the tracklisting for both films, it's pretty clear there's no connection.

 

[Yuri]

You're probably right, but I still hold my opinion to some extent. I feel a lot of the emotional impact of both albums are comparable, despite the differences in time period, artists, or even genre. But I think Anderson's influence is a lot more prevalent in other aspect of Lost in Translation, like the dry awkward dialogue and still-photography directing.