South American countries unite to counter US influence

[rAdIOhEaD]

I don't know about the venezeualians on this site, because either they don't know their politics or they arent venezuealian.

Dude, WTF????, Are you telling me that I don't know my politics because I don’t agree with Chavez policies? Or worst yet, that I am not Venezuelan? because a true Venezuelan should be supporting Chavez revolution??? What kind of crap is that?.
All the things I put in my previous post are facts dude, The Laws against freedom of speech, The deplorable state of public institutions including Hospitals where there no medicines or medical equipments, the currency control where I can’t buy foreign stuff or currency even if I have the money! (Unless I do special paper work, and even with that I will have a cap).

No I agree with you, it doesn't, All I am saying is his actions are justified because the media are understandibly getting in the way of what he is trying to do for his people.

Hmmm were did I hear that before, oh yes The Nazi regime!, this exactly the kind of crap that Chavez uses to excuse himself of his crappy leadership, he have had the time and Money to do great things for my Country, but he just did nothing but whine that the media didn’t support him, so instead of doing good deeds for the country he invested his time and the times of his henchmen commies wannabes into create new laws for controlling the media, great! and people still starving to death! But at least we won’t see it in the news!!

I don't have any proof I can show you, But it is understandible that american interests are manipulating the media because before Chavez the media worked as a mouth peice for the puppet government there that did nothing but pass free trade policies that benefited the US at the expense of their own country.

Of course you don’t have any proof, not even Chavez has them!!!, all he does in whine, give us restrains give our money to poor countries to buy supporters, you said our previous “puppets” governments used to pass free trade policies to the US, and what in hell do you think Chavez is doing know with Cuba, Bolivia and Argentina? (plus some other poor countries) there is not benefits there dude, he is giving away our oil for free to Cuba, in exchange he claimed that he brought some doctors from there, but we already had doctors here! And now they are unemployed because all their jobs where given to the Cuban Doctor who will work for free as long as he continues to give our oil to his beloved Fidel Castro

You say that I am reading propaganda, but I have connections with a venezuealian solidarity group in australia, and not only that, I have personal friends who have been there and witnessed the revolution. I have also gathered information about Chavez's policie's benefit to the people of Venezuela from various different sources, including the green left newspaper in Australia and turkish television programs.

Really?, I wonder if that group in Australia could know more than the persons who are here, or if they could know more about what is going here than my neighbor whose son was killed during a public manifestation against Chavez…
Sorry dude, there is no revolution here, only delinquency and unemployment going up every day….
I give you this links one in spanish (sorry if you don’t understand it) from the Human Rights Watch Organization and this from Amnesty International, take a look at all the cases of political prisioners we have here, reporters are haunted, and we have documented cases of tortured people. I can also provide more links of international non profits asociations reports about Venezuela's control of freedom of speech and Civil Rights Violations.
If you don’t mind, I rather believe my personal experience in my country than a commie propaganda from and Organization in Australia or a Turkish TV channel….

 

[kirovman]

Don't mind him, I think he goes out of his way to antagonise people.

 

[<RJMC>]

frenzy

what the heck are you saying?

so the fact that I live here means that I am saying bullshit?
the fact that I saw everything means I am saying bullshit?
the fact that I was here and I presencied everything means that I am saying bullshit?

you know what shove your wikipedias trough your asses

 

[dys4iK]

This was to solarisis original comment that living there doesnt make you right.

If you read the sticky in this forum about logical fallcies you would realise that the very first point there was this: ...

Lacking any other strong evidence on this forum, someone who lives there is currently the best we have.

Discounting what he has to say out of hand because it doesn't agree with what we believe is not right.