Steam forums cracking down on garry's mod

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Death.Trap said:
Just be glad you didn't have to start puberty as a guy..

Oh, I endure that all right! From the other end!
Yes, I have to put up with you all! lol

And also, this isnt a discussion of sexual taboo; I'm fine with sex etc.. the only problem here is the insipid display of homegrown hl2 pornography that is really, really sad.
The true issue here is that some people (albeit testosterone must be a little to blame) are so desperate for an infusion of sex, that they stick alyx and kleiner together in a display that somehow arouses them! and whats more, they come here and post the pictures for all to see! as if to say "hey! I know sex! look! sex!!11one, its funny cos kleiner is having sex!! ahahah!".

We all got the joke, but noone laughed because the joke sucked.

If only people understood that, and got the message, this plague would die :rolleyes:
 
bliink said:
And also, this isnt a discussion of sexual taboo; I'm fine with sex etc.. the only problem here is the insipid display of homegrown hl2 pornography that is really, really sad.
The true issue here is that some people (albeit testosterone must be a little to blame) are so desperate for an infusion of sex, that they stick alyx and kleiner together in a display that somehow arouses them! and whats more, they come here and post the pictures for all to see! as if to say "hey! I know sex! look! sex!!11one, its funny cos kleiner is having sex!! ahahah!".

We all got the joke, but noone laughed because the joke sucked.

If only people understood that, and got the message, this plague would die :rolleyes:


I know! It's kinda like how if you watch enough porn..you get used to it..and you've gotta go with stuff thats more hardcore. I guess gary's mod is just a couple of steps behind horse porn.


Oh, I endure that all right! From the other end!
Yes, I have to put up with you all! lol

/comfort bliink
 
Death.Trap said:
I know! It's kinda like how if you watch enough porn..you get used to it..and you've gotta go with stuff thats more hardcore. I guess gary's mod is just a couple of steps behind horse porn.

I would have said it was a few steps behind any real porn.. :upstare:

Death.Trap said:
/comfort bliink

hey! don't think I dont know what you're doing!

/me throws death.trap to the floor :D
 
I ever saw that sex pics and dont want to saw them
 
hey! don't think I dont know what you're doing!

/me throws death.trap to the floor :D


Aaaaahhh! No! WAIT!!!



*pulls out "Kung Fu for guys getting beat up by girls"*

Take...THAT!
:sniper:
:thumbs:


EDIT-I want to take this time to say that Godsmack owns you all. They own me to for that matter..
 
MigaS_tX said:
Unfortunately, this societty has tabus. And nudity/sex is one of them.

You're only chance is to respect their tabus, and be ridiculous quiet. :(
But i don't think that it was enjoyable make and watch that pics...

I don't mean to get all spelling-nazi on you here, but it's spelled "taboos."

Just for future reference.
 
Milkman said:
I would like to point something out here. Sex is an natural act that is required to sustain human life on this planet, murder/violence is the exact opposite for it does nothing but cause pain and suffering and of course death. WHY would sex be a tabus!?

One. Yeh sex is needed forlife but is it really necissary for people to make picture of alyx being bent over by a combine elite?
Two. Why do you care about violence you play Half Life 2.
Three. IT'S TABOO NOT TABU!!!
 
Death.Trap said:
TDE..are you in britain? I've gotta start using mate....dunno how it will sound with my americana accent though. :eek:
I'm in Little Britain yeah.
 
The Dark Elf said:
banned eh.. we should do that instead of just deleting the threads/posts

Bah zeus post has inspired dark elf :x
 
Britain was founded in 1944 by a man with a teapot. Then we fought France. I forget why, but it was good.

I don't think the question is so much on the concept of taboo or offense or even common sense, just that the vast majority of the community are sick to death of the wannabe porn directors mucking about with computer game characters for their own personal amusement. Yeuch.
 
Edcrab said:
I don't think the question is so much on the concept of taboo or offense or even common sense, just that the vast majority of the community are sick to death of the wannabe porn directors mucking about with computer game characters for their own personal amusement. Yeuch.

Exactly my point.
 
MarcoPollo said:
One. Yeh sex is needed forlife but is it really necissary for people to make picture of alyx being bent over by a combine elite?
Two. Why do you care about violence you play Half Life 2.
Three. IT'S TABOO NOT TABU!!!
I wasn't defending these taseless pics, I was just making a statement on censorship in American Media.

Two: I am not saying computer violence is bad either, you completly misunderstood me.

Three: Duly noted
 
Edcrab said:
I don't think the question is so much on the concept of taboo or offense or even common sense, just that the vast majority of the community are sick to death of the wannabe porn directors mucking about with computer game characters for their own personal amusement. Yeuch.

Very well said.
 
Zeus said:
Quoted for emphasis. I don't understand how ridiculous amounts of violence games are fine but god forbid there's nudity!

It is a tragic world we live in.
 
MarcoPollo said:
One. Yeh sex is needed forlife but is it really necissary for people to make picture of alyx being bent over by a combine elite?
Two. Why do you care about violence you play Half Life 2.
Three. IT'S TABOO NOT TABU!!!
Is anyone making anyone look at these posts? It's personal choice. Simply choose ignore it, like this one {SNIP} or this one since that last one got snipped and ban me plz. OH no warning level threehttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/dt111/gm_construct0007.jpg
 
damien1 said:
Is anyone making anyone look at these posts? It's personal choice. Simply choose ignore it, like this one {SNIP}

No, noones being made to look at them, but you are being made not to post them. Those are the rules.
 
so i should keep images like this in the garys mod thread? Cause thats where i found it. So i guess that rule only applies to certain threads {SNIP}
 
damien1 said:
so i should keep images like this in the garys mod thread? Cause thats where i found it. So i guess that rule only applies to certain threads {SNIP}

The instructions were to refrain from posting any more. It wasnt a retrospective rule.

Now, you're just deliberately being disruptive.
 
so pics that are alrealdy posted can stay? What are they grandfatherd in? if your rules are no such content then i think all should be removed???????????????/
 
damien1 said:
so pics that are alrealdy posted can stay? What are they grandfatherd in? if your rules are no such content then i think all should be removed???????????????/

It would be unfair to punish people without warning; the only ones that have had posts deleted and warnings applied are the ones who have broken the rules after they were cautioned about it in the thread.

Other such pictures are being removed, but the priority is ensuring that the deluge stops immediately.
You must appreciate that it takes time to go through 20+ pages of links by hand, screening everything first. Have patience.
 
Well after reading this thread i was expecting something much more explicit then what i just saw.. i looked at a photo where the characters were ontop of eachother, but it was pretty benign.(and i had to follow a link, hardly in my face)
I'm sure there are more explicit photos but come on guys, does it really offend anyone? I suppose if you think of HL2 as a religion, then it could be offensive.. hmmm..
And about Gary's mod, it has some awesome features besides the ragdoll stuff so let's not bash the mod..
Do you guys get embarrased watching the discovery channel when they show a monkey bent over and gettin' the pipe laid? Please!!!!! :monkee: ===> :monkee: :cheese:
:LOL:
 
polypod said:
Well after reading this thread i was expecting something much more explicit then what i just saw.. i looked at a photo where the characters were ontop of eachother, but it was pretty benign.(and i had to follow a link, hardly in my face)
I'm sure there are more explicit photos but come on guys, does it really offend anyone? I suppose if you think of HL2 as a religion, then it could be offensive.. hmmm..
And about Gary's mod, it has some awesome features besides the ragdoll stuff so let's not bash the mod..
Do you guys get embarrased watching the discovery channel when they show a monkey bent over and gettin' the pipe laid? Please!!!!! :monkee: ===> :monkee: :cheese:
:LOL:
Oh come on, there's more holes in your argument than a victim of a gangland shooting.
 
There is a difference between simply being annoyed by something and BANNING IT (Yes, that's censorship). I'm bored and annoyed by most of nude garry pictures (btw, i seriously doubt that anyone who produced these kind of pictures actually got aroused by it), but I'm also bored and annoyed by the 101th remake of killbox. Doesn't mean we go BAN everone who posts a killbox remake.

So, there has to be some other justification for it, which can only be that those pictures are offensive. Now, please explain to me why a picture of NON NUDE computer models (ppl seem to forget that) in a sexual pose are offensive, while a picture of alyxs hanging upside down from a meat hook isn't? I don't get it.

Oh yes, i forgot one thing:
bliink said:
Death.Trap said:
I know! It's kinda like how if you watch enough porn..you get used to it..and you've gotta go with stuff thats more hardcore. I guess gary's mod is just a couple of steps behind horse porn.
I would have said it was a few steps behind any real porn..

I honestly hope that that was some kind of joke, because that would in turn mean that you think playing a violent computer game is just one step away from going to your school and killing everyone while sacrificing a goat to satan
 
.syL said:
There is a difference between simply being annoyed by something and BANNING IT (Yes, that's censorship). I'm bored and annoyed by most of nude garry pictures (btw, i seriously doubt that anyone who produced these kind of pictures actually got aroused by it), but I'm also bored and annoyed by the 101th remake of killbox. Doesn't mean we go BAN everone who posts a killbox remake.

So, there has to be some other justification for it, which can only be that those pictures are offensive. Now, please explain to me why a picture of NON NUDE computer models (ppl seem to forget that) in a sexual pose are offensive, while a picture of alyxs hanging upside down from a meat hook isn't? I don't get it.

Oh yes, i forgot one thing:


I honestly hope that that was some kind of joke, because that would in turn mean that you think playing a violent computer game is just one step away from going to your school and killing everyone while sacrificing a goat to satan
The images are tasteless and in many cases represent rape, abuse etc.

Doesn't matter that its not arrousing and bad quality, its being posted on sites visted by the young and old alike, just because a few people don't mind it, doesn't mean the majority are cool with it.

I don't mind watching hardcore porn. But I'd have a problem with it being shown 24/7 on TV.

Your also forgetting the impressionable young, again, just cause it doesn't bother you, doesn't mean to say they wont see it as ok. Remember how easily children are to believe anything they see or hear.

Throw in the parents, well. Parent walks in, see's the kid looking at the site, site seems harmless, its a games site so it should be. Then the parent see's images of gangbangs and rape. It's not gonna look good for us now is it. This isn't an 18+ site, hence we wont have that kind of thing on it. Doesn't matter if its polygons or photography, same applies to written word too.


Using the "well you allow violence so why not sex" excuse is as baseless as the warezkiddies classic "im sure you've downloaded mp3's before, so its ok for me to download things illegally all the time."
 
In no way am I defending nude garry's mod pictures (although it is my opinion that not everything can be controled, especially not the internet. If kids have access to a computer on their own, a HL2 fan site is the least of their worries).

The Dark Elf said:
Using the "well you allow violence so why not sex" excuse is as baseless as the warezkiddies classic "im sure you've downloaded mp3's before, so its ok for me to download things illegally all the time."

Well, you haven't answered my question nor have you stated exactly why it's baseless. Let me repeat. Why is an image of torturing a person acceptable while sexual poses aren't. I wouldn't even have a (that big) of a problem with banning serioulsy offensive material in general. But that's not the case.
 
.syL said:
In no way am I defending nude garry's mod pictures (although it is my opinion that not everything can be controled, especially not the internet. If kids have access to a computer on their own, a HL2 fan site is the least of their worries).



Well, you haven't answered my question nor have you stated exactly why it's baseless. Let me repeat. Why is an image of torturing a person acceptable while sexual poses aren't. I wouldn't even have a (that big) of a problem with banning serioulsy offensive material in general. But that's not the case.
Simulated Violence is entirely different to sexual acts, simulated or otherwise. I fail to see how they can be compared to each other.

If you still think its both the same, I suggest you speak to the BBFC and other companies that enforce censorship law and ask them why.
 
I'm glad this has happened. I'm getting sick of all the pics from Gary's mod (no offense to the mod), but I'm specifically fed up with the ones simulating sex acts. They're crude and unfunny.
 
Edcrab said:
Then look at Britain! We allow almost everything...

...we just allow the uneducated masses to whine about it afterwards and demand that it's banned :sleep::flame:

Except Nunchucks... can't have those on screen. Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles be ware!
 
The Dark Elf said:
Simulated Violence is entirely different to sexual acts, simulated or otherwise. I fail to see how they can be compared to each other.

If you still think its both the same, I suggest you speak to the BBFC and other companies that enforce censorship law and ask them why.

See, the thing is censorship laws are just that, laws. There has to be an underlying reason for their existence. Refering me to some kind of law enforcement is like answering the question "why is there freedom of speech" with the answer "because the 1. amendment says so" (using america as an example).

What I really want to know is why you (or anybody else) THINK that violence isn't the same. Hell, I'll go first and tell you why I think that for the most part it's the same. The reason why I dislike porn (in general) is that I think it's degrading to women. If I would agree that HL2 porn (it's not porn, but you get the point) should be banned, I would so so because I feel it's degrading to women (or men as some pictures suggest). Exactly the same applies to a picture of a person being tortured, they're just as degrading, if not worse.

Now it's your turn to tell me why you disagree and think that violence is ok, and exactly why there is a difference.
 
The Dark Elf said:
The images are tasteless and in many cases represent rape, abuse etc.

Using the "well you allow violence so why not sex" excuse is as baseless as the warezkiddies classic "im sure you've downloaded mp3's before, so its ok for me to download things illegally all the time."

Well I don't know where these violent pictures have been posted and i certainly wouldn't approve of what you describe when it comes to violence, but your last statement brings about the flaw in your logic. Your analogy makes it necessary to equate sex with violence, like stealing is stealing, but when it comes to non-violent sex(like the pic i saw), it seems unequivical to violence.
That being said, this is a violent game. So we're already engaging in a bit of simulated taboo if you will.
Again, I haven't been visiting the particular forum with the pics you're talking about, i'm just interested in mapping/machinima at this point(no porn=)
I can understand banning any sexual pictures on a site that young kids view. It's just that kids today love violent video games which is why they're viewing these sites.. seems ironic to me that we wish to protect them from the non-violent sex, but again, i understand this is the society we presently live in. :upstare:
 
Haha, lol.

About time these peverted kiddies got put to bed...
 
vegeta897 said:
They also don't like spelling words correctly ;)

I could be wrong on this, but I *think* maybe just *maybe* that the English language originated in England. It might be why it's called English, but I'm not 100% sure on the chronology of it.
 
.syL said:
See, the thing is censorship laws are just that, laws. There has to be an underlying reason for their existence.

Because the majority of the public don't want to see it, and this being a games forum for a semi-violent game NOT a porn game, thats how it stays.

Your arguing a pointless case cause its not gonna change, post unwelcome images, that have no purpose, that couldn't even be called art and your gonna get banned, from here and from steampowered.
 
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