Terrorist used Mentally Challenged as Suicide bombers -- MSNBC Source speaks

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GiaOmerta said:
He still could be Chinese indeed.
Just like a white guy can be Polish, Russian, or whatever. It doesn't really matter and I don't want to get in to a huge debate over this but just wanted to point out an idiotic post.
 
oh look, what did i say.. i jus said "a chinese baby" and you jump at the chance to make me look like an idiot... :/.

i know, and tbh that baby could live in france therefore, be french.

btw your stereotyping countries there.
 
Really, what was the big deal? I was just busting he's balls in my previous post.
 
Oooo! Give that man a cigar!

ya sure he is ..look there are so many groups in iraq that it is very difficult to distinguish the 2 ...btw when the coalition kills civilians what would you call that? state-sponsored terrorism?

Thanks. Zarqwai is the head of Insurgency -- were getting close to catching him and; putting aside that defeatism diatribe, we will get him.

You know how we can tell that Zarqwai is still the head of the "Insurgency" in Iraq? He's been using teenagers with Down Syndrome to attack US targets -- now, am I wrong, or is that just plain retarded?

Only a person with experience from fighting in Chechnya or the Gaza strip, would've known how to manipulate a simple boy into strapping a bomb onto his chest. Whats worse -- the boy who had downs, was'nt carrying the Detonator. Zarqwai's luietenants were.

Thats just ****ed up, man.

See, you are missing the point. Those people were terrorists, not insurgents.

No. Those people were always the terrorists. I mean, who else would use a Child with Down Syndrome to attack a US Target? Zarqwai -- and, who does he command?

First, the Ansar Al Sunnah Army. [Military Advisors, Sunni Rebels]
Second, Tawhid Al-Qaeda. [Military Advisors, Baathist Extremists]

Oh ok, my bad. So when you want to undermine the Military's effort over there they are insurgents. But when those insurgents are proven to be terrorits they are terrorists. In other words, spinning the fact to fit your agenda. Thanks for clearing that up.

Pwned. Cleared the whole article, down to the last man.

Again, you are missing the point. He is not leading the insurgency as the media claims, he is leading the terrorists over there that weren't there before the war.

No, this is how it went:

Baathist Party Extremists and Military Advisors, go full scale ahead with their attrition based backup plan. In this plan, they use Close Quarters Engagements with US Soldiers -- hoping that their tanks and armored vehicles wont be able to manuever around in city streets.

So, after awhile of being pushed back and uprooted -- they inherently declare themselves Al-Qaeda, working with a Jordanian Terrorist Mastermind who came to Iraq to fight against America. Now, this Jordanian terrorist used to operate outside of Fallujah -- this is where Baathist Extremists, Sunni Rebels, and previous Military Advisors and Elite Guardsmen united and declared themselves to be Al-Qaeda.

The new organization is now not the "Insurgency", its now Tawhid Al-Qaeda. So therefore, what was the Insurgency -- now declared itself to be of a terrorist organization.

Before Fallujah is invaded -- almost, on the eve of it being taken; Zarqwai and the Iraqi Military Personel form the Ansar Al Sunnah Army, which would Operate in Northern Baghdad. Tawhid Al-Qaeda Ansar-Al Sunnah Army, is the full name cooperatively.

Now, why did they do that? Because they're own parties munitions and soldiers were in dissarray; they needed another foundation to fall back on, when it was low on members and support.

Thats whats been going on.

Your insurgents, declared themselves to be Al-Qaeda. Now, not only are they terrorists, but were fighting the same war as we did in Afghanistan. Surely those, "terrorists", knew their gamble.

the terrorists in iraq want to be called insurgents.
but the fact is , they aint, they are terrorist civilian killers, plain and simple.

Yea. They would like us to believe theirs honor in beheading people ...

yeah, but I am talking about Iraq. Iraq had no terrorists prior to our invasion. Thanks to Bush Iraq is now one huge safe house for terrorists around the world.

Actually, were talking about after the election. Thanks to Bush, the country is now free -- and is also preparing itself to crush the Insurgency.

I guess you believe in santa claus and the tooth fairy too?

Hey! You used to believe in God!

Minus the head cutting, I could apply that to the coalition.

However, were not executing prisoners of war. Thats what seperates us from them -- unfortunately, we do have Cruise Missles and faulty intelligence. However, I believe your latter perspective is flawed by intentions.

We're trying to kill terrorists/insurgents. They're trying to murder the entire Western world, and are also employing Children with Down Syndrome to go as far to those lengths; I think their still inherently worse.

including selling saddam WMDs and chemical weapons

When Saddam attacked Tel-Aviv with SCUDS; those were'nt his. Those were Russias. Russia, was'nt also very adament about selling them -- they were worried those weapons would be relaunched at troops in Chechnya.

glad we're debating with reasonable people

As if your celebrating ...


Site proves their were Al-Qaeda members on Fedayeen payroll. Just discusses some misinterpretation when involving names.

<From the Site>

One of them is Ahmad Hikmat Shakir Azzawi, identified as an al Qaeda "fixer" in Malaysia. Officials say he served as an airport greeter for al Qaeda in January 2000 in Kuala Lumpur, at a gathering for members who were to be involved in the attacks on the USS Cole, the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

why is it always so black and white for you people...it's such a simple minded insight into a complex issue ..I have never supported terrorism ...I really detest that idiotic notion of "you're either with us or against us" it's just an attempt at silencing dissent

As if the quality of your insults and arguements works not to silence dissent amungst others opinions. Your just as extreme.

funny how in all this talk of terrorists not one of you ever mentions the grand pubah himself: Osama ..how's that coming along?

Better than ever -- and im also glad you asked.

How about address the point instead of making yourself look like an ass?

Rid yourself of such retalliatory drivel -- and maybe you wont look like a hypocrit. I'am also just critiqueing you -- not insulting you. If you feel like they're exists insult -- its just to your own end, not mine.

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it. - posted 3,129566 times in these forums by yours truely

Actually, Lesley Stahl was not commenting about the U.S. Sanctions in Iraq. She was commenting on wether or not going into Iraq was worth it.

As for, yours truely, it should be yours liely. You did'nt post it 3,129,566 times. Dont lie. It makes you look ridiculous.

so during the 90's 500,000

All of the supplies meant for those children, went to Fedayeen Recruitment camps and Saddam's Elite Republican Guard. Ooops!

That was'nt us ... that was him! [Saddam!]

You believe every innocent person who's died in Iraq has died because they had a terrorist in their house? Or a terrorist grabbed them and used them as a human shield?

You believe every innocent person who's died in Iraq has died because of murder intentioned Cruise Missles? Or by a Coalition Soldier grabbing them and shoving them off bridges? :eek:

No, no comment because I am tired of your crap to put it frankly. I disproved 2 of your examples and you don't address the fact you were wrong so why the hell should I address your other 2 examples of misinformation.

Because your unwilling to expose yourself onto the probability of being wrong -- besides, you like being on the offensive in a debate.

The pot smoke is blinding you you no good terrorist loving commie.

Sorry, I wanted to try their brand of debating.

Here, lets try yours:

I dont hate Insurgents -- I just am critical of their Foreign Policy.

Ooo, I like the feel of that one! :angel:

what the hell was that? you ignored it again ..fine. I wont waste any more time on you

... one post later ...

thanks for the opportunity

So, you basically walked around your office acting like an idiot. Good work, Stern. Your still hired and working there I take it?

My face is starting to turn blue from holding my breath ..come on koreboltr you seem to have all the answers

KoreBolter, dont tell him a thing. Maybe if were lucky, he'll hold his breath long enough and ...

does Madeline Albright work for the Media? it came from her mouth! I saw the broadcast way back when, she said those words

Oh, Oh! So then this mean you dont have a reliable source to cite that dialogue -- so up until now, its just been your own hearsay?

Easy. Just use the liberal tactic insane of spin. Simply blur the lines between terrorist and brutal dicators.

Here! LET ME TRY!

I dont agree with teroablblblblblblblblbllbrutal dictators give free health care, I like that dictator.
 
what the hell was that? you ignored it again ..fine. I wont waste any more time on you

I didn´t want to pick up this, but you, Kerberos, menshioned this, so here you are:


Kerberos, read the thread again, especially postings of Stern and KoreBolteR on pages 3 - 5.

That has only strenthened my assumption that there is little sense to discuss with KoreBolteR, as long as he discusses that way.



KoreBolter, do you enjoy it, missing the disscused point?

Or you REALLY don´t get the principle of a disscusion?





Kerberos said:
You did'nt post it 3,129,566 times. Dont lie. It makes you look ridiculous.

No one but you it makes look ridiculous, Kerberos. The figure is to illustrate that he has allready posted the statement many times.
 
Bodacious said:
Easy. Just use the liberal tactic insane of spin. Simply blur the lines between terrorist and brutal dicators.

Surely you agree that those two groups, terrorists and brutal dictors, both subscribe to the ideology that they can impose their will on others through force with the purpose of political gain. With that in mind you can equate Stalin as a terrorist, and he killed how many? 25 million. Hitler killed 9 million jews was it? Pol pot killed millions as well.




Surely you agree that those two groups, terrorists and brutal dictors, both
and e.g. the USA
subscribe to the ideology that they can impose their will on others through force with the purpose of political gain. With that in mind you can equate the USA as terrorists too.

If you blur the lines, we are rigth at my general theory about war and terror.

Do you still want to blur the lines? ;)



Bthw, the USA had been supporting such dictators as:

Saddam Hussein (Iraq)
Somoza (Nicaragua)
Pinochet (Chile)
Pol Pot (Cambodia)
Suharto (Indonesia)
Marcos (Philippines)
Mobutu (Zaire)


Oh, and don´t forget Mujaheddin (Afghanistan).


And what about ties between the Bush and Bin Laden families? The Bush and Bin Laden families have had relations for over 20 years.

Maybe OSB is also made in USA like Saddam?


How does it fit into your theory? ;)
 
NoFuture, i was saying that the media twist things how can that possibly be off-topic?

people get brainwashed by websites adding extra spice to everything in favour to the terrorists. nothing the terrorists do like kill children gets mentioned at all.

how can you all prove that what you think is true?
excluding bogus claims by anti-western websites over-reacting? :dozey:
 
I think Nofuture (thanks for the support btw :) ) was right when he said:

"Or you REALLY don´t get the principle of a disscusion?"
 
@Nofuture

with the purpose of political gain.

Maybe you forgot that line right there. Prove to me that the US invaded Iraq for political gain and I will say that the US is a terrorist nation. Seeing as how the rest of the world has a great amount of dislike for the US I fail to see how the US invaded for political gain.
 
This thread has turned into a flame fest. Which is rubbish, really.
The Politics section is a privilege, not a right.
Ever since it was created, all thats happened here is childish bickering.
Its back and forth between people like theres no tommorow.

If all of you don't immediately cut the crap attitude around here, then there'll be a hell of a lot more warnings, and the politics section will be taken away.

Its like we're punishing a little kid, and quite frankly, thats how you're all acting.

I hope I've made it clear enough, because if you dont get the message by now, then you have it coming to you.
 
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