Terrorists strike (again) - How do we combat Terrorism?

[DaMaN]

But people will keep trying!!

Sadly, very, very, true. But it can be counter-acted by people trying to turn on a flashlight.

-DaMaN

 

[gh0st]

the only way to stop terrorism is with large amounts of troops and police constantly aware and present. curfews, checkpoints, and extremely proactive searches of businesses and residences also helps. i guarantee you, if i was general casey that insurgency would be over before you know it my plan of action would be this:

1. kick all foreign media out of iraq.
2. close all borders, shut down the airport to passengers going into iraq
3. issue a state ID that must be presented at all checkpoints.
4. capture or kill all religious leaders, and place them into a cage with one axe in the middle
5. destroy all mosques, churches, synogogues or witch temples
6. issue to every iraqi thong panties and a bra. of if youre a male, a bro. this way you cant strap a bomb or have a gun. all other clothes are burned.
7. no guns allowed, except for american troops and police
8. anyone in the streets past 8pm is immediately shot in the head with a laser guided bomb from a cobra
9. troops would not sit in the relative safety of their bases. they would constantly be out on the streets patrolling. always.
10. any unknown object on the street will be blown up, as well as all neighboring structures.

bam, 10 steps to a safer iraq.

 

[15357]

I agree with some, but the 8pm curfew is too much.



How about 2400?

#6 is just...... lol.

#10 needs to be modified to 'only the undidentified object'

 

[Sulkdodds]

10. any unknown object on the street will be blown up, as well as all neighboring structures.

Surely you wouldn't have any buildings left after a few weeks?

 

[DaMaN]

the only way to stop terrorism is with large amounts of troops and police constantly aware and present. curfews, checkpoints, and extremely proactive searches of businesses and residences also helps. i guarantee you, if i was general casey that insurgency would be over before you know it my plan of action would be this:

1. kick all foreign media out of iraq.
2. close all borders, shut down the airport to passengers going into iraq
3. issue a state ID that must be presented at all checkpoints.
4. capture or kill all religious leaders, and place them into a cage with one axe in the middle
5. destroy all mosques, churches, synogogues or witch temples
6. issue to every iraqi thong panties and a bra. of if youre a male, a bro. this way you cant strap a bomb or have a gun. all other clothes are burned.
7. no guns allowed, except for american troops and police
8. anyone in the streets past 8pm is immediately shot in the head with a laser guided bomb from a cobra
9. troops would not sit in the relative safety of their bases. they would constantly be out on the streets patrolling. always.
10. any unknown object on the street will be blown up, as well as all neighboring structures.

bam, 10 steps to a safer iraq.

While I agree this would make an extremely safe (and entertaining as in #4) Iraq, it would also mean that almost everybody would be dead.

Most of these ten are also violating the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

I'd like to analyze each of these
1. Pulling foreign media out of Iraq will not stop the problems they have there. Foreign media can only really help tell the story or at least give different perspectives, which are essential when making decisions about other peoples lives.
2. Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
3. Again, Article 13 - 1. Also, Article 21 - 2 states:
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
which would be certainly interfered with by IDs and checkpoints.
4. While this would be extremely entertaining (all religeous leaders of the world in a cage and one axe), it's not good considering Article 18: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
5. Again with Article 18.
6. Article 1: All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Hence, you cannot be humilliated with a bra/panties/thong due to merely your nationality.
7. Limiting the access to firearms is probably a good idea, but again, not based on nationality.
8. While I am amazed at the accuracy of a cobra (if it is indeed able to hit you in the head after 8:00 pm with a bomb), this will not solve anything. Curfews, while known to have decent effect at keeping people subdued, are somewhat difficult to enforce, and would again require at least twice the population of Iraq in U.S./U.K. troops.
9. This seems to counter-act rule 8, and also would be difficult to maintain without Terminators
10. Sulkdodds pretty much summed this one up.

So essentially what you would have after this is a small group of about 50 Iraqis wearing thongs huddled in a slight depression in the ground, (all the buildings having been blown up), with 100,000 soldiers patrolling around them.

With the extreme amount of oppression these rules would put upon the Iraqi people (ignoring the fact that most of them would be impossible to police unless you had three times the Iraqi population), the Iraqi people would get fairly fed up about being told these things in their own country, and would rise up and rebel, or get killed in the process. (Funny, isn't that what's happening now?)

So, I'd have to conclude that these rules would probably not work as intended.

-DaMaN

P.S. Oh, i just realized these were posted by gh0st! Well, here we have another discussion on our hands!

 

[99.vikram]

1. kick all foreign media out of iraq.
2. close all borders, shut down the airport to passengers going into iraq
3. issue a state ID that must be presented at all checkpoints.
4. capture or kill all religious leaders, and place them into a cage with one axe in the middle
5. destroy all mosques, churches, synogogues or witch temples
6. issue to every iraqi thong panties and a bra. of if youre a male, a bro. this way you cant strap a bomb or have a gun. all other clothes are burned.
7. no guns allowed, except for american troops and police
8. anyone in the streets past 8pm is immediately shot in the head with a laser guided bomb from a cobra
9. troops would not sit in the relative safety of their bases. they would constantly be out on the streets patrolling. always.
10. any unknown object on the street will be blown up, as well as all neighboring structures.

bam, 10 steps to a safer iraq.

Welcome to Soviet Russia.
Population: You.

 

[Maxi]

Welcome to Soviet Russia.
Population: You.

I loll'ed

 

[15357]

10 steps to a safer iraq:

#1. 12am Curfew, violators will be warned, then shot.
#2. Heavy watchings on borders, no one goes in without proper authority.
#3. APCs. Patrol.
#4. Bomb sweeper vehicles should patrol cities day and night.
#5. Video survailance of virtually any public property.
#6. No guns. Execute gun traders
#7. Anyone who buys anything that could enable them to make a bomb must produce proper identification, and will be watched.
#8. Religioous activities of any kind, especially christianity, is forbidden. (with exceptions of prayer/mass
#9. Electronic eavesdropping of civilian populations.
#10. Close city borders and enhance checkpoint arms.

Well, you did say combat terrorism, not protect civil liberties.

 

[Baserape>]

It's very simple to combat terrorism...talk. Exampe NI.

If both sides, mainly the west refuse to enter into negotiations with terrorists we will be going round in circles for the next hundred or so years.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

 

[VictimOfScience]

It's very simple to combat terrorism...talk. Exampe NI.

Exactly. Talk about the root causes of what is making a segment of the population so unhappy that they would rather kill/die than live with it. Both sides must be willing to give a little too, no one can leave the table 100% happy. That's what makes a great compromise (according to Henry Clay via Larry David). This is the only way to do it.

 

[99.vikram]

Exactly. Talk about the root causes of what is making a segment of the population so unhappy that they would rather kill/die than live with it.

Terrorism is a product of hatred. You can't cut deals with terrorists, because they won't want to.