the 51st state: Saudi Isrealia

[AJ Rimmer]

give me a country in the middle east that isnt corrupt.

:O

Iraq! Because now it's under control of the american government and... oh... wait, nevermind...

 

[KoreBolteR]

Iraq! Because now it's under control of the american government and... oh... wait, nevermind...

you cant really call that a government atm.. come back in 6 months time :dozey:

and come to think of it..

i reckon EVERY country in the world is corrupt.

 

[The Monkey]

you cant really cal that a government atm.. come back in 6 months time :dozey:

and come to think of it..

i reckon EVERY country in the world is corrupt.

More or less, yes.

 

[seinfeldrules]

I've had this avatar for a week or so and you're the first one to say anything about it. Its never been the topic for debate on this board. My avatar has nothing to do with changing the attitude or outcome of a thread.

Meh, I'm sure you'd have no problem if I found a picture of your father (or someone you respected) and put a gun next to his head.

 

[CptStern]

Bush is your father?

 

[Razor]

Bush is your father?

Bush is the father of over 250million people of all races, religions, genders and sexualities, a proud father as well.

 

[seinfeldrules]

Bush is your father?

No, but I do respect the man. I wouldnt know if satch respected his country's leader, so I chose somebody that he had a higher chance of respecting.

By the way stern, you can drop that little arrogance act that you love to play, it merely makes your arguments weaker.

 

[CptStern]

can I call him Papa Bush?

 

[seinfeldrules]

can I call him Papa Bush?

Go for it.

 

[satch919]

No, but I do respect the man. I wouldnt know if satch respected his country's leader, so I chose somebody that he had a higher chance of respecting.

See, this is already going off topic. I'll PM you with my response.

 

[MarcoPollo]

I think Mexico will be the 51st state before Saudi Isrealia is, just for the simple fact that more than 3/4ths of its population is already here. It'd just be more convienient(sp?)

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I think Mexico will be the 51st state before Saudi Isrealia is, just for the simple fact that more than 3/4ths of its population is already here. It'd just be more convienient(sp?)

Puerto Rico will be the 51st state.

There is no way in hell I'd ever want Mexico. It'd destroy our economy.

 

[MarcoPollo]

Step one: take mexico (won't be hard considering no one wants it)
Step two: Evacuate
Step three: Bomb all the horrible parts
Step four:
Step five: Be "The Uber 1337ness states of teh union!! now with extra statesness!"

 

[CptStern]

By the way stern, you can drop that little arrogance act that you love to play, it merely makes your arguments weaker.

arrogance! pa-shaw! I have no need for arrogance! I am Stern! :smoking:

 

[Adrien C]

People allways ask why the US never attacks Israel is it's obviously breaking a lot of intenational laws. I'ts quite easy, most of the bankers and major companys presidents are Jews, they crontol the US economy. Ver heard of Lobbys ?

 

[MarcoPollo]

Plus then If we attacked Isreal.....There wouldn't be a single country left to like us!

 

[kmack]

There is no way in hell I'd ever want Mexico. It'd destroy our economy.

we are doing a good enough job of that on our own!

but ya, puerto rico will be the 51st state (if there is one)

 

[CptStern]

nah israel is pissed that the US doesnt take a tougher stance ...bush commenting on the formation of the palestinian state pissed off a lot of israelis

 

[MarcoPollo]

Yeh we are pretty much damned if we do, damned if we don't.

 

[Lemonking]

Puerto Rico will be the 51st state.

There is no way in hell I'd ever want Mexico. It'd destroy our economy.

you can never have enough taco bells and garden workers :naughty: ^^

 

[CptStern]

k that's just bigoted. I know you meant it as a joke but that's just not very funny

 

[Adrien C]

Mexicans in the US are verry polite and hard working, Mexicans in Mexico, well, that's another story.

 

[seinfeldrules]

I'm traveling to Mexico in about a week or so. I've been told to stay away from the water (Montezuma's Revenge someone called it) and I've heard great things about the 'black market' areas.

 

[Lemonking]

k that's just bigoted. I know you meant it as a joke but that's just not very funny

well yeah it was a joke....I thought it was funny :frown:

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I'm traveling to Mexico in about a week or so. I've been told to stay away from the water (Montezuma's Revenge someone called it) and I've heard great things about the 'black market' areas.

Do. Not. Drink the water.

That includes the ice in many drinks

 

[MarcoPollo]

Gonorhea, your special little friend.

 

[Kebean PFC]

Back on Topic...

There are no countries in the middle east right now that could be accepted as states. They would only want this so they could put more pressure on us to support them. Someone earlier said:

I was thinking just now how amusing it would of been if Saddam had been seen to support America's war on terrorism, could Bush still have labeled him part of the "Axis Of Evil".

It would have been rather simple for Bush to label Saddam a part of the Axis of Evil. The man already told us a few lies, whats a few more?

 

[Adrien C]

Black Market is asawme, you can find from AKs to Uzis.

 

[Razor]

Back on Topic...

There are no countries in the middle east right now that could be accepted as states. They would only want this so they could put more pressure on us to support them. Someone earlier said:


It would have been rather simple for Bush to label Saddam a part of the Axis of Evil. The man already told us a few lies, whats a few more?

There was a documentary on a couple of years ago about the first gulf war where they interviewed some of the leading Allied Generals and politicians such as Colin Powell. They all said one thing, if Saddam had given in to the demands of the Coalition and had withdrawn from Kuwait, it would of completely screwed up everything that George Bush Seniour was planning. If Saddam had then went on to suddenly co-operate with the UN and be seen to be co-operating and be seen to be taking a tough stance, not actually taking a tough stance, but be seen to taking a tough stance against terrorists in Iraq, George W Bush couldn't of invaded and if he had, it would of split America in two, and Britain certainly wouldn't of helped.

But Saddam suffers from the same thing Stalin suffered from, an over-inflated ego. Saddam was telling his Generals before the first Gulf War that America would never dare attack, even though all of his Generals "disagreed", they might of disagreed with his plans but they certainly didn't let Saddam know about it through fear of punishment and death, same as the Soviet Generals under Stalin.

And anyway, Saddam claiming he didn't have wmd, that wasn't actually a lie was it?

 

[Pogrom]

There was a documentary on a couple of years ago about the first gulf war where they interviewed some of the leading Allied Generals and politicians such as Colin Powell. They all said one thing, if Saddam had given in to the demands of the Coalition and had withdrawn from Kuwait, it would of completely screwed up everything that George Bush Seniour was planning. If Saddam had then went on to suddenly co-operate with the UN and be seen to be co-operating and be seen to be taking a tough stance, not actually taking a tough stance, but be seen to taking a tough stance against terrorists in Iraq, George W Bush couldn't of invaded and if he had, it would of split America in two, and Britain certainly wouldn't of helped.

But Saddam suffers from the same thing Stalin suffered from, an over-inflated ego. Saddam was telling his Generals before the first Gulf War that America would never dare attack, even though all of his Generals "disagreed", they might of disagreed with his plans but they certainly didn't let Saddam know about it through fear of punishment and death, same as the Soviet Generals under Stalin.

And anyway, Saddam claiming he didn't have wmd, that wasn't actually a lie was it?

Well, it depends on the context - if he said "I have never had wmd" then it would be a lie.

But he didn't actually have any at the time he was asked, so he didn't lie in that instance.

 

[Razor]

Well, it depends on the context - if he said "I have never had wmd" then it would be a lie.

But he didn't actually have any at the time he was asked, so he didn't lie in that instance.

And if he was seen to be co-operating with the UN when it comes to be seen to be taking a tough stance on Terrorists and on the weapons inspectors, Saddam would still be in power and if America had invaded, the outcry would of been a lot bigger. Britain certainly wouldn't of gone to war with Iraq if he had done that as Britain going to war with Iraq was due to the fact that the intelligence was saying that Saddam wasn't co-operating with the UN inspectors because he had wmd, if he was seen to be co-operating with them though, the case against him wouldn't of gotten off the ground.

 

[Pogrom]

And if he was seen to be co-operating with the UN when it comes to be seen to be taking a tough stance on Terrorists and on the weapons inspectors, Saddam would still be in power and if America had invaded, the outcry would of been a lot bigger. Britain certainly wouldn't of gone to war with Iraq if he had done that as Britain going to war with Iraq was due to the fact that the intelligence was saying that Saddam wasn't co-operating with the UN inspectors because he had wmd, if he was seen to be co-operating with them though, the case against him wouldn't of gotten off the ground.

Even though he wasn't being as helpful as he possibly could to the weapons inspectors, they (the weapons inspectors) were of the opinion he still didn't have any WMD.

Your conjecture on the probable events following Saddam bending over and taking it up the butt (in a metaphoric sense) I have no argument with.

 

[Bodacious]

And anyway, Saddam claiming he didn't have wmd, that wasn't actually a lie was it?

A better questions is did Saddam violate the UN resolutions? I can say he violated them even after we fired our missiles on the first days of the war. How can I say this? I was in a base in Kuwait that had a missile land on it. Saddam wasn't allowed weapons that could travel more than 150km and the missile that hit us traveled a lot farther than that.

 

[CptStern]

well you DID want him to violate sanctions and the resolutions ..you were looking for a way in, it didnt matter what he did, you've been trying it since the early 90's:

"WITH NO DOMESTIC SOURCES OF BOTH WATER TREATMENT REPLACEMENT PARTS AND SOME ESSENTIAL CHEMICALS, IRAO WILL CONTINUE ATTEMPTS TO CIRCUMVENT UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONS TO IMPORT THESE VITAL COMMODITIES."

"UNLESS WATER TREATMENT SUPPLIES ARE EXEMPTED FROM THE UNSANCTIONS FOR HUMANITARIAN REASONS, NO ADEQUATE SOLUTION EXISTS FOR IRAQ'S WATER PURIFICATION DILEMMA, SINCE NO SUITABLE ALTERNATIVES,INCLUDING LOOTING SUPPLIES FROM KUWAIT, SUFFICIENTLY MEET IRAQI NEEDS.)



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[Bodacious]

 

[CptStern]

"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

 

[Korgoth]

I disagree Cptstern, its much, much more entertaining when they talk back...

 

[CptStern]

heheheh :thumbs:

 

[willyd]

stern, whats wrong with people south of the border?

*willyd puts on a sombrero and dances to la cucaracha

 

[Recoil]

stern, whats wrong with people south of the border?

But you do know that he's from Canada, don't you?