The beauty of Catholic teachings

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I'm here to present to you a few things that make Catholcism a good religion:
1. You can't judge your neighbor. Although he may sin, most of your sins are just as severe. No matter what the mortal sin, they will lead you to the same place. "Judge not and you will not be judged." "The measure with which you measure will in turn be measured out to you."
2.Love you neighbor as yourself. If this teaching was lived, there would be much less sorrow in the world. someone would ask you "would you please help me shovel my walk?" You can put yourself in that person's shoes and know what sort of burden is upon them. It makes everyone as deserving of diginity as anyone else.
3. Love the Lord, your God.- When this teaching is followed, the burdens of the world don't seem as significant and don't create as great of stress. You see the world as a different place, a place where thing pass from you and aren't as significant as they seem.
If you have any other positives or negatives of Catholicism to post, feel free.
 
Seem sensible ideals, don't understand why they have to be religious based though :p
 
Why do I need religion to do these kinds of things? They are simply pleasant ways to act. Except the third one of course.

Edit: Ahh, you beat me.
 
vegeta897 said:
Why do I need religion to do these kinds of things? They are simply pleasant ways to act. Except the third one of course.

Edit: Ahh, you beat me.
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Catholicism teaches that this is the only right way through this life and that if you do otherwise you will not have eternal life. Being reminded of this every day makes a person live that way. What ship sailing through dark waters doesn't check his navagation chart to ensure safe travel?
 
DeusExMachinia said:
I'm quite content with my own beliefs.
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It is the fruit of your beliefs that matter, not your beliefs. Good trees will produce good fruit, and bad trees will produce bad fruit.
 
Last One In said:
It is the fruit of your beliefs that matter, not your beliefs. Good trees will produce good fruit, and bad trees will produce bad fruit.
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hmmmmmmm fruit

Karma ftw though :p
 
Last One In said:
Catholicism teaches that this is the only right way through this life and that if you do otherwise you will not have eternal life. Being reminded of this every day makes a person live that way. What ship sailing through dark waters doesn't check his navagation chart to ensure safe travel?
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I like to think that I'm reminded of why I'd choose to do the 'moral' choice because it makes life easier and more pleasurable for all; I don't need to check I'm doing the right thing by rules, because when you do the right thing you know you're doing it.
 
So, religions are based on FUD? Count me out. I don't need to be threatened with Hell to be nice.
 
Christianity in general holds to these teachings, not just Catholicism. I don't take communion, I'm not baptised, and I don't pray to saints, but we still believe most of the same things. Thumbs up for showing people that we're nice, not crazy! :D
 
Last One In said:
I'm here to present to you a few things that make Catholcism a good religion:
1. You can't judge your neighbor. Although he may sin, most of your sins are just as severe. No matter what the mortal sin, they will lead you to the same place. "Judge not and you will not be judged." "The measure with which you measure will in turn be measured out to you."
2.Love you neighbor as yourself. If this teaching was lived, there would be much less sorrow in the world. someone would ask you "would you please help me shovel my walk?" You can put yourself in that person's shoes and know what sort of burden is upon them. It makes everyone as deserving of diginity as anyone else.
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why doesnt #1 and #2 apply to homosexuals?
 
I'm asking specifically about catholics ..many christian groups openly discriminate against gays
 
CptStern said:
..many christian groups openly discriminate against gays
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You'll find, if you look around, that the majority of people are off their nut. The majority of Christians are people, so statistically speaking......
 
Catholicism:

Negatives: Inherent racism borne of years of white domination. :(

Positives: Bitchin' architecture!
 
I don't like the fact that we believe in God because of the fact that if we don't, we'll go straight to hell. It seems selfish and requires a connection with God that seems to make you feel conditioned.

Of course, practicing good deeds and all that is great... but having to do them because God conditions me to do them makes me uncomfortable, which is why I'm unsure about my "faith".
 
evil^milk said:
I don't like the fact that we believe in God because of the fact that if we don't, we'll go straight to hell. It seems selfish and requires a connection with God that seems to make you feel conditioned.

Of course, practicing good deeds and all that is great... but having to do them because God conditions me to do them makes me uncomfortable, which is why I'm unsure about my "faith".
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ooooohh doubting your faith will send you straight to hell ...dont worry all the cool people will be there like Jimi Hendrix, Cheech and Chong, CptStern, George Bush ..heaven will be full of flanderesses
 
evil^milk said:
I don't like the fact that we believe in God because of the fact that if we don't, we'll go straight to hell. It seems selfish and requires a connection with God that seems to make you feel conditioned.

Of course, practicing good deeds and all that is great... but having to do them because God conditions me to do them makes me uncomfortable, which is why I'm unsure about my "faith".
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The Appeal to Fear is a big logical fallacy. You do not to be religious to do good deeds. If you are unsure about your faith, you should do some research if you wish to make up your mind.
 
i'm not appealing to fear. i'm only somewhat disappointed, being raised Catholic and all, that that's what being Catholic (and believing in the god) is all about.
 
evil^milk said:
i'm not appealing to fear. i'm only somewhat disappointed, being raised Catholic and all, that that's what being Catholic (and believing in the god) is all about.
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It isn't about fear, its about love. "God so loved the world that he gave his only son". His son gave us a new way to think; his way was unselfish, loving, dignified. It makes me wonder why in the deuce he was, and still is, hated.
 
I'm cool with Jesus. I'm not cool with the people who decided to turn him into a religion.
 
Last One In said:
It applys to all people, from the satanist to the serial killer.
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not really, while they arent discriminated against they are regarded as depraved or that they suffer from a genertic disorder


2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.


http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm
 
Yeah, but only if you regard everything that comes outta Rome as the truth. Even my local priests often bent that.
 
The official catholic teaching is that gay people are just people, inclined to be good just like everyone else.

However, gay sex is a sin, because it is against Natural Law.

Gay people are called to chastity, just as pedophiles and beastialityists (made up word) are because the act of sex is immoral.

It is generally spoken of as though its a handicap or mental disease, like you wouldn't let a crazy man go around screaming he is Napoleon.
 
CptStern said:
why doesnt #1 and #2 apply to homosexuals?
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It does, I have no problem with homosexuals just being gay. They're sinning doing it, but I've committed sins too. You were raised Catholic too so I know you know that while matters of the soul are very serious, on this world things aren't just so rigid and you shouldn't berate someone. There are those who don't practice it but for the most part I'd say Catholocism is better about this than compared to protestant Christians. This is just in general though, not a stereotype or anything I'd use against a protestant.
 
Exactly. I've had contact with lots of religous people, and none of them have suggested that gay sex is worse than sex out of wedlock. (Although I'd be interested to hear what they're take would be if gay marriage were legalized.)
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
It does, I have no problem with homosexuals just being gay. They're sinning doing it, but I've committed sins too. You were raised Catholic too so I know you know that while matters of the soul are very serious, on this world things aren't just so rigid and you shouldn't berate someone. There are those who don't practice it but for the most part I'd say Catholocism is better about this than compared to protestant Christians. This is just in general though, not a stereotype or anything I'd use against a protestant.
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I dont mean individuals but rather the religion

oh and the United Church of Canada, a protestant denomination, allows gay priests and gay marriage
 
CptStern said:
I dont mean individuals but rather the religion

oh and the United Church of Canada, a protestant denomination, allows gay priests and gay marriage
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Right like I said, it's not all protestants. Just a hell of a lot more are hostile. The United Church of Canada is only a small piece of the pie.
 
RakuraiTenjin said:
Right like I said, it's not all protestants. Just a hell of a lot more are hostile. The United Church of Canada is only a small piece of the pie.
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small if 10% of canadians is small

but the United church of christ (american) isnt ..and they also allow gay marriages and ordain homosexuals and women
 
CptStern said:
small if 10% of canadians is small

but the United church of christ (american) isnt ..and they also allow gay marriages and ordain homosexuals and women
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I'm detecting a feeling of superiority from you stern.
 
how? I just said the american chapter has the same policies as the canadian one
 
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