The Founding Fathers Were Not Christians

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While searching a quote Cpt.Stern said in that "Definition for Terrorist: Liberal Democrat" thread...

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -Thomas Jefferson
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I came up with this link.

Now I don't know if it's true or not..nor do I care.Just thought it was just a good read and some of you might like it.
 
Oh, btw...theres more interesting links at the bottom.
 
Them Greeks and Romans sure liked their gods / goddesses to have raunchy births. Aphrodite was born from some guy's scrotum sack that got torn open.
 
Yes, many of the Founding Fathers were not Christian. Many of them were Deists however. And everyone who tries and claim they were Christians is just propagating a filthy lie. Knock them off their high horse.
 
I've always actually admired Ben Franklin for his take on religion.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
I met him once...hes not as smart as you may think.



What?
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Talking to money again eh?
 
Tr0n said:
Talking to money again eh?
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If I didn't know US currency...that might wash over me like a bridge off a ducks back.



...Or is that water off a ducks back.:O
 
I guess it's a good thing you do then.... ;) Oh and I think it's the 2nd one.
 
Anna Nicole Smith epitomizes where the mindless center of the United States is headed, at least to what we aspire
Couldnt agree more...
 
James madison:

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."


john adams:

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."


most memorable quotes come from Mark Twain:

"It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

"[The Bible] has noble poetry in it... and some good morals and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies."
 
Ben Franklin was also a member of the Hellfire club, an elite occultist group. Too lazy to do research now, I'm sure one of you can google more information on it if needed.
 
CptStern said:
James madison:

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."


john adams:

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."


most memorable quotes come from Mark Twain:

"It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

"[The Bible] has noble poetry in it... and some good morals and a wealth of obscenity, and upwards of a thousand lies."
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A lot of that seems to me, to be as judgemental and damning as Christians apparently are ;)
 
Many of the founding fathers were Deists, meaning that they believed in God and a higher power, but not the church. I think the best example of Deist thought is that God was a clockmaker, who built the world to run itself without His interference (note that in the Declaration of Independence, they never use the word "God," but instead "Maker"). Deism was a pretty big movement at the time, and probably helped the ideals of separation of church and state being written into the Constitution.

Anyway, that's how I think it was. Let me know if I'm totally wrong.
 
I was deist for a while since I never believed in any religion. But then the more I thought about it, the more I realised I didn't really believe in god(s) either.

As for the founding fathers, I don't see much of an issue with their religions. Everything they accomplished is secular, whether they're christian or not.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
A lot of that seems to me, to be as judgemental and damning as Christians apparently are ;)
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:eek: secular damnation? unlikely.. (it's judgmental, btw)
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
A lot of that seems to me, to be as judgemental and damning as Christians apparently are ;)
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I would agree but Madison and Adams both made these statements in speeches pertaining to the bill of rights and the constitution


Twain on the other hand made these sort of comments throughout most of his life
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
A lot of that seems to me, to be as judgemental and damning as Christians apparently are ;)
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Yeah, why don't you and your "Christian" friends go back to the moon where you came from! :hmph:

:P
 
Tr0n said:
While searching a quote Cpt.Stern said in that "Definition for Terrorist: Liberal Democrat" thread...


I came up with this link.

Now I don't know if it's true or not..nor do I care.Just thought it was just a good read and some of you might like it.
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Sorry, I didn't know he was the only founding father.

Hmmm the constitution says " in the day of our Lord".

The bill of rights says "Endowed by their CREATOR".
 
I've always wondered why there was the All-Seeing Eye on US money, despite the fact that is says "In God we Trust" on it. Now I know.

I'm sure the Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves these days.
 
Yakuza said:
Sorry, I didn't know he was the only founding father.

Hmmm the constitution says " in the day of our Lord".

The bill of rights says "Endowed by their CREATOR".
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First of all, "in the day of our Lord" is the old method of notating the date. (ie. "In the day of our Lord, May 16th, 1812"). (Not entirely sure on this point, since I don't know the context of Yakuza'a quote)

And no one says they didn't believe in a Creator, (notice they didn't say Jehovah or Yahweh, or God) they're not Atheists; they're just not Christians either.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
A lot of that seems to me, to be as judgemental and damning as Christians apparently are ;)
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Not all of us are like that...infact Christ said not to judge others
 
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