the internet effect

[nofx]

well ive been thinking about this thing im going to label as the internet effect
( in this circumstance you dont know the person it would be different if you know them in real life):
here you realize how small you are compared to the world
how unbalanced some things are how a white girl getting murdered and kid napped can make headlines for weeks but the genocide in darfur gets about ten minutes here and there
how the person you are talking to can be on the edge of suicide and your single conversation can sway them in almost anyway
how the person you are talking to can be constantly monitoring a relative that is in ill condition in their househould and you dont have a clue what they have to go through each day.

how a person can just die and youll never know other than they left or something

this is a kind of wicked post anyone got anything to add

 

[Dan]

I played in a clan for TFC for a while, then my clan leader died of breast cancer.

 

[nofx]

I played in a clan for TFC for a while, then my clan leader died of breast cancer.

seriously did you feel any remorse did your clan have an emp party or simply
did the internet desynthesize sp? you?

 

[evil^milk]

well if i started thinking abuot it now it wouldn't really do me any good.

 

[Hectic Glenn]

I think this is a good enough thread, i mean rarely people think about it, but whoever you are speaking to on the internet, you can know their likes/dislikes and generally the way they want to speak, but thats all. The face, the life behind the name could be anything, as the internet takes away the barriers that some social sides give us.

For example, a racist or a homophobe could be talking to a black / gay person on the internet without knowing at all, making friends and not knowing it. Taking the face out of the situation shows how we could get on. Me and Oldagerocker had a long conversation about this.

Anyway, yeah its pretty interesting, 'the internet effect' is quite a snazzy name. I could be a psychopath, or whoever reads this. Solaris could actually be a in a wheelchair or a clown thats an alcoholic Sometimes it can be a bad thing (e.g. paedophila) but for most things its good as those boundaries don't mean fook all on teh intrawebz

 

[OvA]

Got help me! Ive been DESYNTHESIZED!

 

[Ikerous]

Sometimes it can be a bad thing (e.g. paedophila)

Why is it that the one thing that relates to me is a bad?

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I think this is a good enough thread, i mean rarely people think about it, but whoever you are speaking to on the internet, you can know their likes/dislikes and generally the way they want to speak, but thats all. The face, the life behind the name could be anything, as the internet takes away the barriers that some social sides give us.

For example, a racist or a homophobe could be talking to a black / gay person on the internet without knowing at all, making friends and not knowing it. Taking the face out of the situation shows how we could get on. Me and Oldagerocker had a long conversation about this.

Anyway, yeah its pretty interesting, 'the internet effect' is quite a snazzy name. I could be a psychopath, or whoever reads this. Solaris could actually be a in a wheelchair or a clown thats an alcoholic Sometimes it can be a bad thing (e.g. paedophila) but for most things its good as those boundaries don't mean fook all on teh intrawebz

I know you're not a psychopath, because I've seen you piss.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Element Alpha]

I think this thread is ok. Also, I think that the internet is more than Joe Average gives it credit for.

The world is changing so rapidly, sometimes it's hard to get a hold on things. It's easy to overlook what the internet really is.

I sometimes wonder if p2p, mp3 and avi files weren't what made the internet so successful. I also ask myself if the free advertisement it got from riaa etc didn't help it grow, so that nowadays, so many people are interconnected. As in, they came for the free goodies, educated themselves in this technology (free goodies motivates), but stayed on-line for the other reasons in the end.

And there are lots of things to feel small to when you compare yourself to them. It can make you feel uncomforable, but I find strength in it, as I should see the relativity in anything bad that'd happen to me.

All in all, IMO, the internet is a blessing in disguise.

 

[Jintor]

He says emo is thanks to the internet.

 

[bliink]

14 Useless posts deleted.
Keep making more & I will fix you

 

[Phantim]

14 Useless posts deleted.
Keep making more & I will fix you

If my attempts at interacting with people is considered useless and my posts are deleted then maybe I should just as well delete Halflife2 from places I visit, I mean, why bother trying to be friendly If my posts go away.

P.S. nofx... I have thought the same thing.(in regards to your first post)

 

[15357]

You do NOT talk like that to a super-mod. They have the power and previleage to ip ban you eternally.


Dissident.

 

[Jintor]

You don't talk like that full stop. We're not stopping you from leaving us alone.

 

[CyberPitz]

Here's a bunch!
http://www.mydeathspace.com/deaths.aspx

Anyway, I would like to think that if I died, or seriously wounded, my roomate would come on as me, and let you guys know what happened. I <3 you all that much. I think of you as my good friends! ;(

 

[VirusType2]

If my attempts at interacting with people is considered useless and my posts are deleted then maybe I should just as well delete Halflife2 from places I visit, I mean, why bother trying to be friendly If my posts go away.

I don't think she was even talking to you.

She deleted a bunch of harrasing and other meaningless posts from a few people - before I had a chance to tell them to stfu.


If someone did delete your post, it is not a complete attack on everything you stand for. lol


Just pay attention and post something meaningful or don't post, please, OK?


And she did say that she will start banning people so I would private message her instead of screwing up the thread again with you own personal issue.


For example, after watching a video of someone crashing a car I don't want to read 15 posts from 15 people saying "wow! he crashed" Yes, obviously.


I will, however, read posts from anyone that has something informative such as, "what happend was the steering column broke", and "Ayrton Senna's died in that crash."

Anyway, I would like to think that if I died, or seriously wounded, my roomate would come on as me, and let you guys know what happened. I <3 you all that much. I think of you as my good friends!

Yea my little brother would probably come on here and tell you I smoked myself - "after the smoke clears" of course.

I think this is a good enough thread, i mean rarely people think about it, but whoever you are speaking to on the internet, you can know their likes/dislikes and generally the way they want to speak, but thats all. The face, the life behind the name could be anything, as the internet takes away the barriers that some social sides give us.

For example, a racist or a homophobe could be talking to a black / gay person on the internet without knowing at all, making friends and not knowing it. Taking the face out of the situation shows how we could get on. Me and Oldagerocker had a long conversation about this.

Anyway, yeah its pretty interesting, 'the internet effect' is quite a snazzy name. I could be a psychopath, or whoever reads this. Solaris could actually be a in a wheelchair or a clown thats an alcoholic Sometimes it can be a bad thing (e.g. paedophila) but for most things its good as those boundaries don't mean fook all on teh intrawebz

By chance, I just happen to be a gay black racist alcoholic clown peadophile homophobe who is wheelchair-bound.


Just kidding!






Im not a clown.


..

Just incase my jokes are over some of your heads - I AM JOKING ****ER. ..I really am a clown.

 

[Ikerous]

If i ever go more than a month without posting, i'm prolly dead :|

 

[Glirk Dient]

If i ever go more than a month without posting, i'm prolly dead :|

It's ok...I won't care cause this is the internet!

Really...if I met someone online and actually talked with them and got to know them I would feel bad if they died. Just like in real life, if all you know is the name of the person and you never met them it doesn't really affect you.

 

[nofx]

No offense I think if you died the last thing your sibling would do is go on an internet forum and gloat about it, unless they truly know this place means alot to you.

Also the myspacedeath sites seems like alot of deaths are automobile accidents (go figure) but it still depressing look at the young faces and see how their lives were cut short. The world moves on inside of me though, ill be more wary around riding with people and checking if they're intoxicated. Would suck to die in a freaking car nothing heroic.

edited: thanks bliink for cleaning it up really appreciated

 

[wakkywheel]

Hmm, If you get IP-banned, how hard is it to just surf through an anonymous proxy?

On topic:

The "Internet Effect", something interesting, yes. I often find myself thinking about what people I talk to on the interweb looks like, how they talk etc. But the funny thing is that even if the turn out to look like complete shite, they may still be really nice people that I would never have gotten to know "IRL". Because face-factor does have something to say when you're meating new people...

 

[Hectic Glenn]

I'm not a psychopath thankfully, and thanks to tony for clearing that up too, but this guy is...

Because face-factor does have something to say when you're meating new people...

Dear god...shame on you, cheap meat you want? Buy catfood! Leave people alone

 

[Steven]

I love the internet, no one judges you on your apperance or see's your body language (sometimes I feel pissed at how people reckon they can tell what I'm really think by the way I stand seen as I can't express body language properly)

I'm also fascinated by the internet, it's amazing how diffrent it is when people socialise online. amazing stuff.

 

[Darkwolf]

I love the internet, no one judges you on your apperance or see's your body language (sometimes I feel pissed at how people reckon they can tell what I'm really think by the way I stand seen as I can't express body language properly)

I'm also fascinated by the internet, it's amazing how diffrent it is when people socialise online. amazing stuff.

Lol, yeah. I find it alot easier to talk to people quite freely online, as compared to the passing 'Hi.' that is occasionally shared. I think there is a phycological problem here...

 

[Mr-Fusion]

On the issues of someone dieing and people not noticing, there was a guy on this site who was claiming he had a terminal disease. This was before half-life 2 was released and he was saying he hoped he would live long enough to play it?

Can anyone remember this guys name?

 

[nofx]

On the issues of someone dieing and people not noticing, there was a guy on this site who was claiming he had a terminal disease. This was before half-life 2 was released and he was saying he hoped he would live long enough to play it?

Can anyone remember this guys name?

I remember that guy, but it turned out to be a scammer correct when his "friend" came also.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Hell, if I died, only a couple of members on here would know about it.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Solaris]

I've got a note in one of my cupboards in my room. It says If I'm dead Please inform the following internet message boards.
Half-life2.net is on the list.

 

[clarky003]

Here's a bunch!
http://www.mydeathspace.com/deaths.aspx

Im astonished at how many 16 to 20 year old's die crashing into poles and various other roadside stuff. Seriously its worrying, id hate to think what it would be like if say you took someone that age who just passed their test from missouri or central rural America and put them on England's roads, they would probably crash everyday.

 

[Hectic Glenn]

Im astonished at how many 16 to 20 year olds die crashing into poles and various other roadside stuff. Seriously id hate to think what it would be like if say you took someone from missouri or central rural America and put them on Englands roads, they would probably crash everyday.

Any is a figure too high, but that site doesn't reflect it because i think its a spoof and alot of those aren't true (perhaps all).

Solaris i hope you're being silly, otherwise i'm scared. If i died, no one would be able to tell anyone here, ah well! I'd go chasing Angry Lawyer in absence.

This thread is so morbid

 

[Solaris]

Any is a figure too high, but that site doesn't reflect it because i think its a spoof and alot of those aren't true (perhaps all).

Solaris i hope you're being silly, otherwise i'm scared. If i died, no one would be able to tell anyone here, ah well! I'd go chasing Angry Lawyer in absence.

This thread is so morbid

I'm not. I've got to know some people really well here, and I would hate it if they disapeared and I never knew what happened.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

The people on here who I care about are the ones likely to find out I'm gone. I won't have to warn them.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[VirusType2]

No offense I think if you died the last thing your sibling would do is go on an internet forum and gloat about it, unless they truly know this place means alot to you.

Also the myspacedeath sites seems like alot of deaths are automobile accidents (go figure) but it still depressing look at the young faces and see how their lives were cut short. The world moves on inside of me though, ill be more wary around riding with people and checking if they're intoxicated. Would suck to die in a freaking car nothing heroic.

edited: thanks bliink for cleaning it up really appreciated

no offense taken. a few months ago, I noticed a new poster on here kept saying things that made me wonder if my little brother had come on here anonymously and started posting. I asked him about it and he admited to it. Since then he some times creates a new registration here and posts here. So there is a pretty good chance he might say something If I die. He knows how much time I spend here and when I get into an argument on here, the whole house knows it - "did you see the yelling at cats" video?

Im astonished at how many 16 to 20 year old's die crashing into poles and various other roadside stuff. Seriously its worrying, id hate to think what it would be like if say you took someone that age who just passed their test from missouri or central rural America and put them on England's roads, they would probably crash everyday.

Yes. As much hate from young drivers as I'd get for saying this, I totally think that kids shouldn't be allowed to drive on their own untill 18 or even later. From the time I was 16 untill I was 19 I drove like Evil Kenevil. I mean I was just reckless at all times. Most of you know I'm a little off - so I know this isn't the rule - but I still see too many young teens driving crazy, drinking and driving, crashing their cars, and dying in car accidents. These kids are just learning to drive.

You get a few hyperactive 16 year olds in a car leaving school, spinning tires, speeding, showing off for some girls, and CRASH. You combine this inexperience with a few friends in the backseat yelling at you to go faster or "race him!", etc., and you combine this with the bad problem of underage drinking and you get a car full of dead kids.

I love the internet, no one judges you on your apperance or see's your body language (sometimes I feel pissed at how people reckon they can tell what I'm really think by the way I stand seen as I can't express body language properly)

I'm also fascinated by the internet, it's amazing how diffrent it is when people socialise online. amazing stuff.

Yea. Thats what is so great about the internet. You get to know me by what I say and not what I look like. It's nice having that anonymity, where I am not judged by what I look like, but from what I say. I can wake up in the morning in my boxers with my hair sticking up and dried up crusty drool on the side of my mouth, and you wouldn't know it unless I told you. (oops)

You can meet people on the internet and if you really get along well, you can share more personal info such as what you look like, or talk to them on the phone.

Often, that person on the other end is completely different than you would have imagined. I've met girls online with voice chat and it's much more obvious what kind of person they are when you use a voice, but still - you don't know what they look like.

I like the voice chat becuase you can tell right away about how old someone is, and what kind of person they are most of the time. Text allows someone as much time as they need to answer back. With voice chat, you answer back immediately after being talked to. This is a much better judge of the person and what they would say when talking with them in person, not giving them a day or two to respond.

-sorry for the length
VType

 

[nofx]

I dont know why I brought this thread up, sorry if its depressing. Deathsjust a part of life after all have you ever heard of the cell cycle called apoptosis, basically a cell knows when to live and when to die. In the end i think thats how we all are just addressed to our own clocks and levels of awareness.

I think i brought this up mainly because my neighbor recently died, she was a very sequestered woman and no one really knew anything about here where she worked just that she always smiled enjoyed being outside and was a little weird. Well we hadnt seen for about 5 days so i thught she went on a trip or something, turns out she died about seven days earlier and had just been lying there. the cops have come and gone and supposedly she has a brother but her house hasjust been sitting there for like 2 weeks life less. its just kind of eerie i think im going to go outside and see her standing there or something.

enoughof my story.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

If I have comeraderie with someone for a period of time nothing else really matters.

For the most part I don't care about anyone because I know they don't care about me but for example on another forum, a car club, everyone shares a common interest and we become very close friends that extends beyond mere ownership of the car.
In this case I would feel regret for any misfortunes to happen upon them. I don't tihnk the internet is a medium for desensitization.
I think it's the other way around. People's nature makes the internet an insensitive place, because having feelings for pointless things is bothersome.

 

[Darkwolf]

I dont know why I brought this thread up, sorry if its depressing. Deathsjust a part of life after all have you ever heard of the cell cycle called apoptosis, basically a cell knows when to live and when to die. In the end i think thats how we all are just addressed to our own clocks and levels of awareness.

Sorry if this sounds like ranting, but death is not part of life, death is the end of life. Unfortunatly it is impossible to contemplate what death is realisticly, considering that death is when you brain stops sending electical impulses! So imagine death as an infinite nothing which doesnt exist because it is impossible to imagine! lol thats what death is, nothing. You cant know your dead because you dont know anything, you can say, oh no ive just died!!! god damned philosophy!!! lol

ANYWAY

 

[Element Alpha]

Sorry if this sounds like ranting, but death is not part of life, death is the end of life. Unfortunatly it is impossible to contemplate what death is realisticly, considering that death is when you brain stops sending electical impulses! So imagine death as an infinite nothing which doesnt exist because it is impossible to imagine! lol thats what death is, nothing. You cant know your dead because you dont know anything, you can say, oh no ive just died!!! god damned philosophy!!! lol

Death is definatly a part of life, because everything that lives eventually dies. There's no escape.

I remember telling my younger nephew about death once. I told him not to be afraid of dying, because all the animals and all the plants that have lived before us have gone through it, so it can't be that bad.

Also, it's much harder to explain life than to explain death. And with life, I mean existance. Why are things? What's up with that?

Back on topic: except for a couple of guys on a counterstike server, I haven't really got to know anyone through the internet. I think it's weird that I recognize some of you guys' names instantly, but you probably wouldn't know mine, because I lurk a lot.

I think noone here could handle me in real life by the way.

 

[Uriel]

w00t in my pants

 

[kirovman]

Death is the last part of life.

And, like the last piece of pie, the most tasty.

;(

 

[nofx]

Death is the last part of life.

And, like the last piece of pie, the most tasty.

;(

Ahh dont go to that act of persuasion now... scarcity the last will always be thebest no matter what the circumstance and how far you go to get it ;p

 

[Vegeta897]

From the MySpace deaths page:

"Mommy! … MOMMY!"

The cry had the kind of blood-curdling edge that tells a mother something is horribly wrong. It shook Kamelia Sepasi from the camaraderie of friends, sent her rushing upstairs to her daughter's room.

There, 13-year-old Sunny stood frozen in place, staring toward the open door of her sister's closet. "Sasha's not moving," she shouted. "Sasha isn't moving, Mommy!"

Fourteen-year-old Sasha Sepasi lay slumped on the floor of her walk-in closet, one end of a belt fastened around her neck, the other looped over a hook on the wall. Her eyes were closed. Her cheeks were cold. Her legs, splayed out in front of her, were mottled with blotchy bruises from pooling blood, evidence that death had taken hold.

Kamelia Sepasi cannot recall exactly what she said or did next, only that she could not believe that her funny, fearless oldest daughter had purposely hanged herself. But what else is there to think when you find your child with a belt around her neck, alone and dead?

She broke free of friends trying to comfort her and began tearing through her daughter's backpack, dresser drawers and desk.

"I knew there must be a note," she said later, sitting on her daughter's bed in a room exactly as Sasha left it — backpack open against the desk, eyeglasses resting on a notebook on the nightstand, her clothes for the next day laid out on the bed.

There was no note. And Sasha's parents would soon believe their daughter's death was no suicide.

"The police officer, a woman, came in and looked at her and told us, 'This looks like the choking game,' " Sepasi recalled. "I had no idea what she was talking about."

By morning, Internet searches had unearthed a thick stack of articles detailing dozens of deaths blamed on the choking game. Self-asphyxiation, it seems, has become a popular adolescent pastime.

"I was totally, totally shocked," Sepasi said. "A game? Where children choke themselves?"

There's no way to know how widespread it is. The phenomenon has been discussed on talk shows and online forums. A chat group begun last summer by bereaved parents has more than 50 members and maintains a list of more than 70 deaths. Yet experts have been slow to document the practice and its widespread appeal.

Children play the game by compressing the carotid arteries in their necks, reducing blood flow and oxygen to the brain. That produces a momentary loss of consciousness, preceded by lightheadedness. When they release the pressure, a surge of pent-up blood flows to the brain, creating a euphoric rush.

They do it in groups, at parties, at sleepovers, in school locker rooms and in lavatories. But they've added a dangerous element to a game some of their parents played as children. Now instead of just squeezing one another, they wrap belts, ropes, ties, dog leashes, even bicycle chains around their necks to produce the fainting sensation.

This allows the game to be played alone, when one mistake — a belt too short, a rope too tight — can doom a child.

"These are typically not kids who are using drugs, but they're doing it for the same reason that kids use substances," explains Julie Rosenbluth of the American Council for Drug Education. "It's an opportunity to get high that doesn't have the stigma [of drugs] attached to it."

The game is seen as a clean, quick, drug-free high by teens like Sasha — children with good grades, nice homes, doting parents and too little life experience to consider its dangerous side.

God I ****ing hate these generations. Kids are so... I want to say stupid, but that's not really it... It's a mix of peer pressure and just... ignorance, and poor decision making.