The Mirror Box

[VirusType2]

I'm just trying to offer some advice; after all, I abused drugs off and on for 21 years. (since I was 14).

I am currently addicted to alcohol and tobacco (again), and I don't use other recreational drugs any more - not even if they were free. Well, I'd probably smoke a little weed now and then, if it was free. Since I was addicted at one point, I will always have a taste for it, as I described above.

I've always missed that bong hit one morning before work when I was about 22 (permanent propensity for addiction + restricted dose, as described above).

 

[Dog--]

That's bullshit.. I hate being drunk and drinking it makes me feel like shit when drunk and after, weed too. And the drugs that make you physically addicted to (coke, meth, etc) I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.

I like to think of drugs as a vacation. Sort of a mini vacation.. Say your feeling down and out you just go get some drugs and feel good for a day, take another day as a recuperation day, then your all good.

@ Danimal - Yea I mix it with everything because it pretty much automatically puts you in a no bullshit awesome mindset so you pretty much cannot have a bad trip. I always have some on hand when taking hallucinogens, it can literally save your life (it has)... I don't do drugs all that much anymore after a 2 month long binge of MDMA I had this summer (high every single day/night, thousands of dollars spent...).

I think we can all agree, as long as your responsible drugs will treat you well as long as you treat them with respect. Never think your better then them, they can **** with you if you **** around, yet they can make your dreams come true if you know what your doing.

 

[VirusType2]

My point is that [your drug of choice] makes you feel good now, at the expense of feeling not good later. So why even bother? It's an expensive habit, and they can cause permanent damage to your body and mind as well.

I'm always reminded of that news story where the guy was shooting heroin into his penis, and eventually, he lost all feeling in his penis, permanently. If that's not case in point, I don't know what is. Laugh now, cry later.

And yes you can become addicted to weed and alcohol, although people (even users) disagree, right before... they want to use it again.

 

[ríomhaire]

Well Virus two whiskeys make me feel fantastic without getting me sick. I assume it's possible to use other drugs in such a way that doesn't make you feel like crap.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

I'd either be the guy who instantly goes batshit crazy or I'd be the freak who just sits there twiddling his thumbs and laughing/pondering. I love performing in front of mirrors and such, but I always get this odd, uncanny feeling of being fiendish and automaton-like. Shit scares me, bros.

 

[VirusType2]

Well Virus two whiskeys make me feel fantastic without getting me sick. I assume it's possible to use other drugs in such a way that doesn't make you feel like crap.

I guess you didn't read it all. I drink every day. There are still the health risks and financial costs associated with drug addiction. Not to mention possession of some drugs are highly illegal (felony), at least in the US.

I feel like it's not worth starting a drug habit if you don't have one. "You don't know what you're missing." Yes, that's a good thing, in my opinion. I'm just not going to recommend it, period. But I'd still vote to legalize marijuana, for many, many reasons.

US arrests (each year):

~758,000 are for mere possession of cannabis [marijuana]

 

[Dog--]

Mentally addicted and Physically addicted are two very different things, that's why I stay away from the physically addictive ones so I can stop when it gets to a bad point..

Being addicted to weed and alcohol is like being addicted to chocolate, you can stop but you can't prove that because you don't really give a damn.

 

[Raziaar]

I'd be creeped out in such a box, because that's just the way my mind works, but I doubt I'd experience anything beyond that. I mean, it's not like the conditions are proper for delusions or anything, the moon cycle has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything besides just adding an extra "element" to the story.

I mean, I'd be creeped out staring at myself in the box and I would have wild thoughts racing through my mind, but in the end due to the nature of our world, and not like books and movies, nothing supernatural will happen.

Globviously.

Nothing scary is going to happen like... I see one of my reflections off in the deep reflected distance rising to his feet and slowly trudging towards me inch by inch until he finally steps through the mirror. Or will it?

IT WON'T!

Culture has some pretty ridiculous superstitions about mirrors... and I find it reflected in my own psyche from horror movies and stuff growing up.


Kind of related in only the most generic of ways.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_box

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNanQtMBwys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0QiGj9eOOw

 

[VirusType2]

Mentally addicted and Physically addicted are two very different things, that's why I stay away from the physically addictive ones so I can stop when it gets to a bad point..

Right, the bad point - that's when you blew all of your savings over the summer and made a thread about it. Is that the bad point? When you're bankrupt? Good luck when you leave home. Good thing you stay away from the physically addictive ones. What you mean is the difference between 'habit' and 'withdrawal symptoms'.

Humans are creatures of habit. It only takes about 30 days to form a habit - good or bad. Habits can lead to addiction. Generally, addiction increases over time, along with a reinforcement of the habit.

My point earlier was that: the chance of you becoming addicted is zero - if you never try it. But you can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's like loosing your virginity.

So good luck with just doing it on weekends. You know how many weekends are left in your life? About 3,380 in 65 years. How many of those weekends will it take before you are unable to easily drop the habit whenever you feel like it?

Stay strong with your aim to stay in control by the time you're older and your wife of 10 years leaves you and takes your children (the only thing you cared about besides drugs), or coping with some other life hardship that we all eventually go through.

Even though you've been using drugs for like two years now and so you know what you are getting into.

Being addicted to weed and alcohol is like being addicted to chocolate, you can stop but you can't prove that because you don't really give a damn.

You can stop any drug. The thing is, you may be miserable because you don't want to stop - even if you do. Every day, people continue to use drugs even when they know it's killing them. Smokers do it all the time (these are the most common, so maybe you've heard). That's like telling a fat guy that he has to eat less or he will die. It's very hard.

And yes some people do give a damn about having a drug problem: when it interferes with their lives. It's not hard to imagine how being drunk or high could interfere with family, work, finances, responsibility, children, spouse, etc.

Chocolate? I can tell you don't know what you are talking about, and how could you? But don't make alcoholism trivial. The addiction is strong. And like I was saying before, it's easy to go back. Also, it took me a year or more to stop shaking and having anxiety attacks after quitting weed.

So many people try to understand addiction after only using it for a few years and never 'giving a damn about quitting'. Why would you care about quitting? You're like 18 and invincible, and you're going to live forever and you can quit anytime you like, but - "it's not that you're addicted, you just don't want to quit" OH I SEE NOW

 

[Dog--]

Right, the bad point - that's when you blew all of your savings over the summer and made a thread about it. Is that the bad point? When you're bankrupt? Good luck when you leave home. Good thing you stay away from the physically addictive ones. What you mean is the difference between 'habit' and 'withdrawal symptoms'.

Humans are creatures of habit. It only takes about 30 days to form a habit - good or bad. Habits can lead to addiction. Generally, addiction increases over time, along with a reinforcement of the habit.

My point earlier was that: the chance of you becoming addicted is zero - if you never try it. But you can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's like loosing your virginity.

So good luck with just doing it on weekends. You know how many weekends are left in your life? About 3,380 in 65 years. How many of those weekends will it take before you are unable to easily drop the habit whenever you feel like it?



Stay strong with your aim to stay in control by the time you're older and your wife of 10 years leaves you and takes your children (the only thing you cared about besides drugs), or coping with some other life hardship that we all eventually go through.

Even though you've been using drugs for like two years now and so you know what you are getting into.



You can stop any drug. The thing is, you may be miserable because you don't want to stop - even if you do. Every day, people continue to use drugs even when they know it's killing them. Smokers do it all the time (these are the most common, so maybe you've heard). That's like telling a fat guy that he has to eat less or he will die. It's very hard.

And yes some people do give a damn about having a drug problem: when it interferes with their lives. It's not hard to imagine how being drunk or high could interfere with family, work, finances, responsibility, children, spouse, etc.

Chocolate? I can tell you don't know what you are talking about, and how could you? But don't make alcoholism trivial. The addiction is strong. And like I was saying before, it's easy to go back. Also, it took me a year or more to stop shaking and having anxiety attacks after quitting weed.

So many people try to understand addiction after only using it for a few years and never 'giving a damn about quitting'. Why would you care about quitting? You're like 18 and invincible, and you're going to live forever and you can quit anytime you like, but - "it's not that you're addicted, you just don't want to quit" OH I SEE NOW

I have moved out on my own.. Literally once my binge ended I moved out, had no money saved up, and I'm living comfortably on my own as we speak, I'm using the internet I pay for, use my phone that I pay for, I live in my house that I pay for, eat my food that I pay for. 2 months of doing MDMA every day and every night and I just stopped like that. I have done it twice since I've moved out, it wasn't and isn't hard to 'not do', I just don't do it. Although it has ****ed with me, I still get sober trips, and see random things, etc, etc, but that will go away and if not it's not hard to live with.. Alot of people these days have no willpower, they find it to easy to blame everything else then to accept responsibility.. I quit smoking after smoking for 4 years, and I was a kid when I quit! I smoked from age 6-10, and quit when I moved out of the city.. It wasn't hard for me as a 10 year old, I tried smoking a few days ago again and I had no incentive to go back.. I don't even know why I tried it. Just because you used to do hard drugs and had a hard time doesn't mean that's the case for everyone, you just have to work at it. Respect the drugs, that's all I'm saying, you respect them they respect you (I know that's a hippy thing to say, but it's true)

For the record, I'm 19 and invincible

I'd be creeped out in such a box, because that's just the way my mind works, but I doubt I'd experience anything beyond that. I mean, it's not like the conditions are proper for delusions or anything, the moon cycle has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything besides just adding an extra "element" to the story.

I mean, I'd be creeped out staring at myself in the box and I would have wild thoughts racing through my mind, but in the end due to the nature of our world, and not like books and movies, nothing supernatural will happen.

I was thinking you'd go crazy because you know when you put two mirrors facing eachother it creates a long tunnel? Well that would be the case on all sides, you'd see tunnels everywhere..

 

[dfc05]

After some thought, I've decided that with the walls being so close to your face, the infinite reflection thing wouldn't particularly be a problem because your view of it would be blocked by your body being in the way. Making the whole thing totally lame.

Mirror maze would be more effective.

 

[VirusType2]

Dog--, see, that's what I'm talking about. You didn't quit for good, because you did it again. So, when's the next time you put a cigarette in your mouth going to be? When you're 21; 25; 31?

Well, maybe you'll never pick it up again, like it's some pact you made with yourself, but what about the other drugs? Don't you think it's possible (if not likely) you might end up trying a different drug when you're older and your friends are doing it? Because that's why you tried the drugs you tried right? Friends? Think that will never happen?

You'll see what I mean later. Even when you aren't addicted and it's not a habit anymore, you still never forget it. You still 'feel like doing it'. This follows you for the rest of your life. Pandora's box has been opened.

It bugs me when people suggest/advocate using illegal drugs to others. That's what a pusher does, man. And you are hyping up some drug that isn't even classified yet, if I'm not mistaken. Scientists don't even know too much about it probably - including unforeseen consequences and health risks. It's not just lung damage and stuff like that to worry about with drugs, you know? They link things like LCD to dementia, insanity, and schizophrenia - even Alzheimers. It's gradual too. Things you did when you were 19 might catch up to you in your 30s as you slowly go crazy.

 

[kineaesth]

hey guys

this is a thread about a mirror box

not about your grumpy drug opinions

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/private.php

 

[Bad^Hat]

Do you think you'd get addicted to Mirror Box if you went in there too much? I mean I used to use mirrors a bunch but I haven't done them again since except that one time. I haven't really noticed any side effects except my third eye fell out and I'm blind in both testicles. What do you guys think???

 

[kineaesth]

Do you think you'd get addicted to Mirror Box if you went in there too much? I mean I used to use mirrors a bunch but I haven't done them again since except that one time. I haven't really noticed any side effects except my third eye fell out and I'm blind in both testicles. What do you guys think???

2 months of doing Mirror Boxing every day and every night and I just stopped like that. I have done it twice since I've moved out, it wasn't and isn't hard to 'not do', I just don't get in the Mirror Box. Although it has ****ed with me, I still get sober reflections, and see random things, etc, etc, but that will go away and if not it's not hard to live with.. Alot of people these days have no willpower, they find it to easy to blame everything else then to accept responsibility.. I quit ordinary mirrors after using them for 4 years, and I was a kid when I quit! I used them from age 6-10, and quit when I moved out of the city.. It wasn't hard for me as a 10 year old, I tried using normal mirrors a few days ago again and I had no incentive to go back.. I don't even know why I tried it. Just because you used to Mirror Box and had a hard time doesn't mean that's the case for everyone, you just have to work at it. Respect the Mirror Box, that's all I'm saying, you respect it, it respects you (I know that's a hippy thing to say, but it's true)

 

[Danimal]

You had me going.

 

[Mogi67]

lol 19 year old thinks he knows bout mirror boxing, lookatthisguy

 

[VirusType2]

I never even read the first page and have no incentive to do so. I just don't need it. Although sometimes I get an urge to check the first page, I simply say "nah, it's not worth it". I mean sometimes, I'm just bored and might look at the page on the weekend or something, but it's not a problem for me.