The Reputation/Advanced Member System.

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  • Reputation System: Good

    Votes: 28 43.1%
  • Reputation System: Bad

    Votes: 40 61.5%
  • Advanced Member: Good

    Votes: 27 41.5%
  • Advanced Member: Bad

    Votes: 35 53.8%
  • Welcome Message: Good

    Votes: 24 36.9%
  • Welcome Message: Bad

    Votes: 32 49.2%

  • Total voters
    65

SpArKs

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A couple of features I err... borrowed from the site I'm moderating.


The reputation system

Its also known as karma. This is a way for members to show their approval or disapproval of one of your posts or your general behaviour on the forums. The reputation level of any user can is represented by the little dots displayed next to the user’s post count. There are two kinds of reputation, the good and the bad. The [LittleGreenBox] symbolises good reputation whereas th [LittleRedBox] symbolises bad reputation. The number of dots denotes how high or low the user’s reputation level is. Each level of reputation is associated with a message. This message can be viewed when holding your mouse over the reputation dots and changes when the user reaches a new level. If you do not want to have your reputation made public, go to your 'User Control Panel' and find the link labelled 'Edit Options' found under 'Settings & Options' or simply click here. Here you can un-tick the box labelled 'Show My Reputation Level'. Here you can also see your precise number of reputation points. If you disable this option, your reputation dots will be replaced with a single [LittleBlackBox]. On the main page of your 'User Control Panel', you can see the latest reputation points you have received, the time and date you received them, the post you have received them from and a comment made by the person who added to your reputation. Only Advanced Members and members of the staff have the ability to see who added to their reputation. Next to the individual reputation post you can see what kind of reputation you have received. [LittleGreenBox] symbolises good reputation, [LittleRedBox] symbolises bad reputation and [LittleEmptyBox] symbolises that the user who tried to add to your reputation in any way didn’t have enough giving power to affect your reputation level.
You reputation power depends on several factors:

  • You must have at least 300 posts before give reputation to another member.
  • You must have at least 50 reputation points before you can give reputation to other members
  • Your reputation power is increased by one for every 180 days you have been registered.
  • Your reputation power is increased by one for every 1000 posts you have made.
  • Your reputation power is increased by one for every 200 reputation points you have received.

If you wish to add to the reputation of a user, find the post you like or dislike and click on the [Scales?] icon found in the top right corner of the post. This will open a pop-up where you can choose what kind of reputation you want to add and where you have the option of writing a message to the user. Since the system is meant to be a reward, you should only give out reputation points when it is truly earned. Furthermore, asking for reputation points is viewed upon with disapproval.

Advanced Member

An Advanced Member is a member of the forums who has been given more allowances then the usual member. Since these members have contributed in a positive way to the community, they are granted some privileges not enjoyed by the ordinary members. These include:
  • The ability to see people who are marked as 'Invisible'.
  • The ability to see who added to their user reputation.
  • No limit to the number of attachments.
  • No limit to the number of Private Messages they can store and they can send up to 10 Private Messages at the same time.

You cannot apply for membership of this user group. Only the Senior Administrators can decide who can become an Advanced Member. Members of this group can be recognised on their italic/bold names, like this: Username

Welcome Message
There's a hack available from Vb. As soon as a member signs up they get an automated welcome message. You may think it sounds cheesy, but what if you didn't know it was automated?
 
Nice, but I believe that's tried before (Note: I have no idea, I'm just assuming.)
 
Boogymanx said:
Nice, but I believe that's tried before (Note: I have no idea, I'm just assuming.)

I wasn't sure. I think its a good idea.
 
I'm afraid the answer is no :|

Advanced member - creates a feeling of elitism
Welcome message - I think we used to have this.. no real opinion on it :p
Reputation system - open to horrible abuse :|
 
Reputation system really sucks, a welcome message would be pointless and advanced members is just silly.

Bb
 
ComradeBadger said:
Advanced member - creates a feeling of elitism
Members will contributed to the forums in a positive way. Aiming for that particular title through the reputation system. Better than aiming for the higher post count.
ComradeBadger said:
Welcome message - I think we used to have this.. no real opinion on it :p
Imagine you just signed up to a site and you get one. How would you feel?
ComradeBadger said:
Reputation system - open to horrible abuse :|
Not necessarily, same as above. Better than aiming for the higher post count. I'm sure they wouldn't leave a bad comment, unless that particular person has left a really misleading post...
 
Reputation system is always abused, the 3-4 forums I've been to have had so many issues with people abusing it all of them basically removed it. ITS USELESS.
 
DiSTuRbEd said:
Reputation system is always abused, the 3-4 forums I've been to have had so many issues with people abusing it all of them basically removed it. ITS USELESS.

Caps scares me...

Then it should of been policed better. I simply review the post the bad rep point has been applied to and decide if the bad rep point was necessary. If i cant decide then i would ask other mods and or members from that particular thread. Adding to that, same as what i said with Badger on the advaned member.

Bloody easy if you ask me.
 
I'd like to have a 100 question questionnaire where they have to get at least 96 correct before their account is activated.

They do something like this on another forum I visit. It has questions like:

"If I need to know about ___BLANK___ where would I post?"
A1. Forum1
A2. Forum2
A3. I'd search first because I'm not a retard
 
SpArKs said:
Caps scares me...

Then it should of been policed better. I simply review the post the bad rep point has been applied to and decide if the bad rep point was necessary. If i cant decide then i would ask other mods and or members from that particular thread. Adding to that, same as what i said with Badger on the advaned member.

Bloody easy if you ask me.

Yes lets all review ANY negative rep point, you know how much havok that would ensue? :|
 
DiSTuRbEd said:
Yes lets all review ANY negative rep point, you know how much havok that would ensue? :|

You proved your point, no need to get funny about it.

Answer to your question: Not a lot.
 
Oh god no. RvB forums have this kind of karma system and it practically ruined the forums.
 
All this will cause is signatures that say "GIVE ME REP PLEASE!" in bright pink
 
Whats wrong with the forums as they are, why are people turning up and trying to change everything when it been SO successful like 'this' without all this rubbish added onto it. People just trying to make a name for themselves, and the one who changed it. We simple folk like things as they are. The mods kick arse when need be, everyone else just gets on and chats about what we wanna talk about rather than get any kind of reputation in colours, numbers or points of any kind.

You earn proper reputations here, by being the person you are. We don't need any systems to show it. The people who have been here long enough all know each other and like each other for being themselves. **** brownie points, we are mostly mates, and its best left like that.
 
Hectic Glenn said:
Whats wrong with the forums as they are, why are people turning up and trying to change everything when it been SO successful like 'this' without all this rubbish added onto it. People just trying to make a name for themselves, and the one who changed it. We simple folk like things as they are. The mods kick arse when need be, everyone else just gets on and chats about what we wanna talk about rather than get any kind of reputation in colours, numbers or points of any kind.

You earn proper reputations here, by being the person you are. We don't need any systems to show it. The people who have been here long enough all know each other and like each other for being themselves. **** brownie points, we are mostly mates, and its best left like that.

I think your missing the point. Lets say, you had a large amount good rep and I had large amount of bad rep. Someone asks "What graphics card is better" Who do you think there most likely to believe, huh?

If someone has a bad rep, the newcomers will be a bit more cautious to the advise they receive from that member. Vice verser...

"why are people turning up and trying to change everything"
Why not, "we need your feedback and suggestions". Ring any bells?
Its a suggestion, not a demand...
 
Suggestion denied. Constant suggesting ways to improve by actually bringing up systems which will cause my problems that good with people saying 'you scratch my back i'll scratch yours'. Such huge overhauls are annoying to be brought up. People who have been here a long time obviously like something here and hang around, so we like it like this! Ain't broken so...

Your graphics card thing. Well, the way it is now, people suggest cards (in fact a whole variety of people suggest cards to buy etc, and it works great, the input from all the people. Asus is always there too to sort it out. Just because someone has lots of reputation points means nothing, i would not trust Stern's opinion on buy a graphics card (no offence :)), but he's a diamond chap that knows little about it, he could just be very drunk or lost to post the best card for someone to buy is a mach 3 turbo.

A reputation points system is just a system put in place for the pretentious people craving status amoung us. It does not divide the valued members and the clowns, despite its aim to.
 
Hectic Glenn said:
Suggestion denied. Constant suggesting ways to improve by actually bringing up systems which will cause my problems that good with people saying 'you scratch my back i'll scratch yours'. Such huge overhauls are annoying to be brought up. People who have been here a long time obviously like something here and hang around, so we like it like this! Ain't broken so...

Your graphics card thing. Well, the way it is now, people suggest cards (in fact a whole variety of people suggest cards to buy etc, and it works great, the input from all the people. Asus is always there too to sort it out. Just because someone has lots of reputation points means nothing, i would not trust Stern's opinion on buy a graphics card (no offence :)), but he's a diamond chap that knows little about it, he could just be very drunk or lost to post the best card for someone to buy is a mach 3 turbo.

A reputation points system is just a system put in place for the pretentious people craving status amoung us. It does not divide the valued members and the clowns, despite its aim to.

Much better input than the last post. :)

I now see eye to eye with your opinion about the rep system. :D
 
I'm guessing you're getting these "ideas" from that forum you are moderating, its probably not even close to as big as this one. Bigger sites that use Rep system=most abuse.

"A reputation points system is just a system put in place for the pretentious people craving status amoung us. It does not divide the valued members and the clowns, despite its aim to."

Exactly, its more of whose more buddy buddy with people than anyone else.
 
I like the sound of welcome messages though, made me feel very welcome at other forums. The actual owner of the forum somewhere else i posted greeted me with a PM and it was not automated, i felt so loved. Not sure if Munro has time to say hi to everyone as he guards the walls of Tesco, so who knows.
 
Hectic Glenn said:
Whats wrong with the forums as they are, why are people turning up and trying to change everything when it been SO successful like 'this' without all this rubbish added onto it. People just trying to make a name for themselves, and the one who changed it. We simple folk like things as they are. The mods kick arse when need be, everyone else just gets on and chats about what we wanna talk about rather than get any kind of reputation in colours, numbers or points of any kind.

You earn proper reputations here, by being the person you are. We don't need any systems to show it. The people who have been here long enough all know each other and like each other for being themselves. **** brownie points, we are mostly mates, and its best left like that.

QFTMFET
 
I want a reputation system. As soon as it's implemented I can start rep-whoring until I have a higher rep than Munro. Then I will lead a revolution for a munroless hl2.net and turn it into a porn forum.
 
Reputation system: Seen it on so many forums, and it always led to mass abuse and it got cancelled. My advice: don't waste your time on this.

Advanced Member: 1337ism for the win!

Welcome message: This isn't kindergarten ;)
 
I once sent an un-automated welcome message to a completely random newbie. He never replied. Bastard.

No, no, yes.
 
Rules for Reputation:
  • anyone who spams it will be denied access to giving people rep permanently and they're rep will be instantly be reduced to -50
  • anyone who says GIVE ME REP will be denied access to giving people rep permanently and they're rep will be instantly be reduced to -50
  • anyone who abused the rep system will be denied access to giving people rep permanently and they're rep will be instantly be reduced to -50
  • any mod who abuses the system will have modship removed as well as being denied access to giving people rep permanently and they're rep will be instantly be reduced to -50
 
Think how badly I'd just abuse it to piss Solaris off as much as possible.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Think how badly I'd just abuse it to piss Solaris off as much as possible.

-Angry Lawyer

Oh you gave me an idea!
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Think how badly I'd just abuse it to piss Solaris off as much as possible.

-Angry Lawyer
*Shakes Fist*
 
Bad
It can work but definitely not the way you have proposed implementing it. I'm working on one myself for another site in development, but that site can reward noobs and pros equally (and even the pros aren't classified as all-round pros), so wouldn't create an elitist divide. The last thing you want in a community is to create a class system if it has no effect other than rewarding the upper of those classes. I think the Mods do a good job here of making sure people aren't guilty of disreputable behaviour, so I don't see the point for it. The statwhore in me is crying out "yeeeeesss!!" but there's no logical reasoning to back this impulsive view up.

Good
I'd prefer a system that is controlled by the admins. So this seems like a more plausible idea. I'm struggling to see why advanced members should get no limit to attachments and PMs, though. Again, I don't see why this is needed, but the survey didn't ask me that. I think in certain circumstances the 'advanced member' status can be useful to a community as a whole. Lastly I don't really like the term 'advanced member' as this implies that a normal member is somehow 'mediocre' or 'underdeveloped'. In the reward system I'm planning out I've decided that the term 'Senior Member' is much less elitist in connotation, as it shows simply that they've been around longer. It connotes 'wisdom' not 'betterness'.

Good
But I don't really feel left out if I don't get one. If this was implemented it should have a link to the new members forum with a message inviting the new member to introduce themself. I don't really think this is needed, but wouldn't see anything wrong with it being introduced.
 
I prefer it the way it is at the moment, it's more informal and "real". You learn who the people with good reps and bad reps are by frequenting the forum more, you become a regular and people give you their own personal rep in their mind.

Advanced Members will just provoke jealousy among the ranks of the proles.
 
C-S nation - 53

Half-Life Fallout - 396

HalfLife 2.Net - 1268

Planet HalfLife - 121
But according to these figures it looks like HL2.net's doing just fine.

* Figures taken from the final vote tallies for the fansite of the year vote (see News Archives)
 
I'd rather have a warning system before other hacks are installed... but since installing board hacks seems to be more rare than munro visiting the forums (;)), I doubt anything will happen :)
 
They obviously count for nothing, im a "senior member" and one of the least respected members in the entire community :p
 
Llama said:
They obviously count for nothing, im a "senior member" and one of the least respected members in the entire community :p
Maybe your name has something to do with it... Who would have respected Darth Vader if he'd been called Darth Hilary!
 
bliink said:
I'd rather have a warning system before other hacks are installed... but since installing board hacks seems to be more rare than munro visiting the forums (;)), I doubt anything will happen :)

Yeah, I remember when I first turned up on this site and the old warning system was in place. I was dead impressed. 1 word post=spam=warning=OUCH. Really stood out too, with the red text and all.

As for rep systems, it seems like a swanky idea to me but I bow to the experience of people who've been around forums more than I have. Like Glenn said, we all pretty much know who's who around here, and who spouts the cack and who doesn't.

Advanced users - no for me...spawns elitism.

Welcome message - why not? Not too fussed either way.

btw, sorry for bumping a tired thread, but thinking about the old warning system got me misty eyed and nostalgic and I had to let it out....plus I'm tired and didn't see the date :/
 
bliink said:
I'd rather have a warning system before other hacks are installed... but since installing board hacks seems to be more rare than munro visiting the forums (;)), I doubt anything will happen :)

That'll never happen, Bliink. Ever.

I don't think we need a forum script to tell who is cool and who isn't. If you saw my <3 list a while back that just about sums it up.
 
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