The shit has hit the fan.... And a question about free trade/globalization.

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And as of 1800 hours, yesterday evening, the Combat Police initiated containment-arrest protocols in Daejon, right where I live.

The reason? Nationwide violent protesting concerning the Free Trade Association with the US, and globalization. Every provincial goverment office was attacked by protesters armed with molotovs and iron pipes, except for the City Hall in Seoul Special City, the capitol of the Republic of Korea.

Containment was achieved as of 2440 hours. It took 17 companies (approx. 2000 Combat Police troops) to regain order at the site of the protest here in Daejon. 70+ Companies were stationed at Seoul, and the outskirts and non-urban areas of of Jeju Province was depleted of police forces. The protesters were joined with the striking National Worker Union Alliance as well as the Teacher's Union.

Unfortunately, when I arrived at the site of the protesting, my path was blocked by burning and knocked-down police vehicles and barricades. So I couldn't see the protest for myself.

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Front page of the newspaper today:
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The protesters used molotovs and took down the fence surrounding the Provincial Goverment Hall in Daejon.
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Grab the torches and pitchforks!
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Now, what do you guys think of globalization and free trade? The reasons that I support it are: #1) General economic benefits through export-induced industries, and #2) People that are against Free Trade are violent, unstable, and crazy (at least from what I've seen).
 
Those pictures are ****ing awesome.

Other than that... no comment.
 
Krynn72 said:
Those pictures are ****ing awesome.

Other than that... no comment.
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Oh.... well, more pics for you sir!

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Yeah.... so... anyone have any comments about free trade?
 
Seriously nice pictures, but why is this not on any major English news sites yet?

(I've only checked BBC, btw)
 
Not much news goes out the western media, it seems. And besides, it was contained.
 
Oh wait, English version (not up-to-date, it seems, as it says that it was a labor protest)

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200611/200611230009.html

Korea Sees Worst Labor Protests in Years

Wednesday saw the biggest labor protests since the Roh Moo-hyun administration took office when some 72,000 demonstrators took to the streets in 13 cities around the nation. They included farmers against a planned free trade agreement with the U.S. and members of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions (KCTU) who went on general strike on the day. Violence and arson attempts were the order of the day as demonstrators armed with wooden and bamboo sticks launched well-coordinated attempts to break into city and provincial government offices. Police, unable to mobilize more than 25,000 officers, were overwhelmed, saying it was the first protest on such a scale under this government and complaining of restrictions in dealing with it.
Some 1,000 farmers, laborers and college students engaged in a pitched battle with police when they tried to break into the municipal building in Gwangju, Jeolla Province. About 300 of them brandished wooden and bamboo sticks and hurled paving stones at the building, breaking 40 windows. They seized riot shields and helmets from police and set them on fire.

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Farmers brandish torches in a clash with police after a failed attempt to break into a Gangwon Province local government building on Wednesday.
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So I guess it's no biggie.
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Indeed. :smoking:

EDIT: Damnit, the trade unions have gone on a full national strike. :/
 
Interesting, they're saying that Daejon was the heaviest hit place.... perhaps it was good that I was unable to get into the protesting site. D:
 
It's not like a war happened, what do you expect? I can't find US/UK/European news on any Korean news sites, and we have a lot of them.
 
If this sort of thing happened in the US/UK, it'd be big time headline news.
 
What were they protesting against? The free trade with other contries? For a good or bad cause?

Confused.
 
FTA deal with the US, Globalization, labor rights, ect.


Winter is a season of hardship for the Combat Police here.
 
And I thought the bloody Melbourne riots were bad. At least nothing was on fire then...
 
I dont understand how this only happens in korea ...I mean there is no such thing as a peaceful protest according to Numbers/SK government

yet everywhere else seems to have relatively peaceful protests ..I've been to one myself that had 30,000+ yet not a single violent incident ..yet every single time violence is the central issue in SK protests ...you either have an overwelming number of looney protestors who on average care nothing about the welfare of south koreans

.... or your government exaggerates everything

i suspect the latter


btw my aching heart BLEEDS for those poor defenseless Combat police :upstare: give me a break, that's their JOB
 
SK seems like an exiting place. The funniest protest we have here are when the teen-commies scream "Destroy USA, the imperialism" and then runs away from an indifferent crowd.
 
I can't really exaggerate photo graphics of buildings burning down and innocent people getting burnt alive by molotov cocktails through by evil protestors. It's not just South Korean protestors, but all protestors, if you get a bad couple in amongst them, they can incite hatred and then everyone kicks off.
 
and this is well documented? You have coroborating evidence? you've been to many protests and know this to be true from first hand experience? when there's a protest and you see people rioting ..is that everyone in the protest? cuz then I can see you'd have a point ..but were that true whole cities would be up in flames because 30,000 people isnt a small crowd
 
Korea wins in most hardcore prostests! Everywhere else just has pussy protesters.

Korea Protesters: "Lets KICK SOME ASS!!!"
Other Protesters: "Lets... have a friendly get together and do nothing but say we are unhappy..."
 
Peaceful protests do **** all alot of the time.

I'm not advocating what we're seeing in thoose pictures, but occupying state buildings is a good method.
 
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The last one had a ladder over the right hand side, so they couldn't break it.
 
I would approve of nothing less than a wanton crispy slaughter.
 
15357 said:
Now, what do you guys think of globalization and free trade? The reasons that I support it are: #1) General economic benefits through export-induced industries, and #2) People that are against Free Trade are violent, unstable, and crazy (at least from what I've seen).
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Globalization and free trade help the economy as a whole, but harm the local industries. So the question to ask is whether the economic strength of the country is more important than the economic strength of some of its citizens.
 
but he has so many personalities to pull from that at least one of them is bound to be smart

how do you manage to keep them all quite knghenry?
 
Here's a trailer from a low budget movie still in the making. They taped it at an anti-war protest - something to do with iraq - I don't know the details. I know the movie is supposed to be about 'generation Y' ( you know, the generation after 'generation X' )

Looks a lot different than yours, numbers.

Take a look
 
CptStern said:
I dont understand how this only happens in korea ...I mean there is no such thing as a peaceful protest according to Numbers/SK government
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Peaceful protests go largely unnoticed...

yet everywhere else seems to have relatively peaceful protests ..I've been to one myself that had 30,000+ yet not a single violent incident ..yet every single time violence is the central issue in SK protests ...you either have an overwelming number of looney protestors who on average care nothing about the welfare of south koreans


.... or your government exaggerates everything

i suspect the latter
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-_-;

btw my aching heart BLEEDS for those poor defenseless Combat police :upstare: give me a break, that's their JOB
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Combat Police: Military Conscripts drafted at their 2nd year of university, are set aside from normal troopers by the Army for containment of protests, as well as counter intelligence. Each serve at least a mandatory of 2.5 ~ 3 years. Was founded in the year 1968, is in direct control of the Korean National Police Agency. There are 67 "Mobile" Companies, used mainly for anti-riots, and 20+ other "Special" or "Guard" companies that mainly deal with national security. (Translated from Yahoo Encyclopedia)


It's not exactly a job.


Here's a trailer from a low budget movie still in the making. They taped it at an anti-war protest - something to do with iraq - I don't know the details. I know the movie is supposed to be about 'generation Y' ( you know, the generation after 'generation X' )

Looks a lot different than yours, numbers.

Take a look
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D: WHERE ARE TEH FLAMETHROWERS?

Posted this back in politcs a while ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKJyR_JFOKs

Translations of what they say/subtitle:
(voices are in "")

0:00 - Educational Film for DC retards, Combat Police edition
0:08 - Made by Bong Na In
0:17 - "Attention Combat Police! Your friends are taking the hit! If they get violent, retaliate! Don't just stand there, MOVE!"
0:27 - Combat Police, their lives....
0:31 - Here they be, your brothers.
0:35 - We do our duty, to defend our country.
0:39 - For an better understanding of the Combat Police, I make this video.
0:44 - And so that we won't be beaten again, I make this for the retards.
0:53 - "MOVE MOVE MOVE!"
1:05 - Protesters, throwing molotovs like they want to kill...
1:13 - One mistake and you could get killed here.
1:20 - "Throw! Throw!"
1:35 - There are normal citizens out there, do they (the protesters) think at all?
1:52 - Believe it when I say that the stones fall like rain.
2:05 - Sometimes we fail the mission and get caught in dangerous situations...
2:13 - (Lynching)
2:26 - Protesting by the HID.
2:47 - Even though they're tough, we have strength in numbers.
2:55 - Inevitably, we are ordered to put down the protest.
3:04 - Also, casulties are inevitable.
3:30 - The violent are arrested...
3:45 - Now, the police have been chased to the roofs of buses.
3:53 - The order falls again to put down the protest.
4:25 - Violent Protesting continues....
4:34 - And...
4:37 - And this one photo becomes propaganda for so-called 'police brutality'
4:46 - Standing there for long hours makes them tired.
5:05 - After this, the Combat Police have to get out again, to guard our country.
5:23 - Armed protesters are met with guns in the west... but...
5:28 - The combat police are always wary of 'brutality'
5:34 - You want to put someone's eyes out? Sharpened splintered bamboo?
5:42 - Peaceful protesting, you say?
5:46 - What's that in your hands?
5:56 - Tired and beaten officers can snap...
6:04 - Do not be so biased, we were conscripted.
6:24 - "3rd PLATOON MOVE" "You've been surrounded!" "Break out of there!" (Or get massacred)
6:28 - "MOOOVE!"
6:37 - We are soldiers, us Combat Police, defending our country.
6:53 - I have the hope to change, at least a little bit, the way people view the Combat Police, with this video.
8:10 - -_-;;
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It's funny to see that both the police as the protesters have 3 foot bamboo or wooden pikes which they use to whack at each other. It's almost classical warfare.

Having a row of shields before the guys with the pikes.

So basically this 'combat police' is composed of 2nd year uni students who get drafted for the military? Then it's rather hypocrite to see students fighting students.

- Pax
 
No, most of the officers have the shield only, actually. The guys with the batons aren't used unless the protesters have molotovs.

And yes, but the protesters nowadays are mostly 30 ~ 50 years old as well.

They get 4 weeks of training at the academy.


I will turn this into a picture thread now. :)
 
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