The Sopranos

[brink's]

None of the shots were actually from his perspective. The camera was way too close to the door.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

None of the shots were actually from his perspective. The camera was way too close to the door.

The camera was about the same distance from the door as tony was =/

Then the show wouldn't have ended with a shot of Tony, how could they have possibly not ended it with a shot of the central, and most important character in the series?

If they really wanted to go with the whole "You probably don't even hear it" angle, than the last shot would've been meadow entering the door. Otherwise for all we know meadow is dead, or better yet, the audience was whacked and we don't get to find out what happened.

Well to me The Sopranos was a TV show, not a philosophical lesson. If it really was meant to be some message about how "Life goes on" then the ending in my eyes was just a load of pretentious crap that I don't want or need, life does sometimes build up to nothing but I don't need a TV show to tell me that, I'm already quite aware of it.

Every episode is "artistic" and full of ridiculous amounts of symbolism. I think they go overboard, in fact. I mean seriously what did you want? A gigantic explosion? A big shootout? Tony in witness protection grabbing a paper, saying he's bored? Tony on the steps, holding meadow, crying? Everyone dead and Tony staring on a lake?

Like I said before. There is no ending. Life just goes on. Which I'll admit is kind of a cop out. It wasn't creative, it was so uncreative it was unexpected. Like a minimalist piece of art, someone somewhere will see it as genius.

 

[brink's]

Ill have to check that, im fairly sure there was a good 3 meters between the camera and tony, regardless it wasn't from his perspective to begin with. If they wanted that effect, they should've showed a first person view with Carmella and AJ in front of him. Plus the entrance into that diner was fairly narrow(from what i remember). They would've had to use abstract angles if they wanted to shoot it from any other perspective.

How can you say definitively that there is no ending. It's suppost to be open to speculation, which is why it was so ambiguous in the first place. Cutting to black could've just as easily been Chase implying that "now he's here..now he's gone(Dead)". And, given the situation at hand, i think that is much more likely.


I actually thought the ending was really well done lol.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

I just think that an ending that wrapped up everything and gave everyone a definitive ending would have been so fake and contrived which is why I cannot see him dieing.

This show has always been about North/Central New Jersey family life. If you go back to the first season, that is all it is about. That is all the last 20 minutes of the show is about as well.

I know we have the mysterious trucker guy, all the tension, the guy going to the bathroom, and all that stuff that probably had you scream CHAAAAAAAASSSSEE! All wrath of kahn like when the screen went black, but that was it. Theres not really alot of proof supporting either of our theories were more or less basing this on how we saw the ending because like you said its open to interpretation :| but yeah im sticking with the no ending thing so there you have it >_>

 

[brink's]

Such an ending isn't definitive at all. What's Carmella going to do, how is AJ going to handle this(who gives a ****)? What's Tony's crew going to do with their top two Bosses indisposed? etc etc. It's only definitive in that you know tony is dead...everything else is left open.

I don't think it's specifically about Jersey family life as much as is about a mobster trying to balance work and family etc. Being from jersey yourself, i doubt you've experienced many of the things that AJ has lol. This show could've easily taken place anywhere else in america and would've had the same effect imo.

EDIT: At least anywhere where there is a mob.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Adrik just steals all his dad's ideas, don't mind him.

The scene is incredibly open to interpretation. The cut to black suggests either Tony is killed or we the audience are "killed." Journey's song "Don't Stop Believing" playing in the background I think was supposed to confuse the viewer even more. Maybe life for them just goes "on and on and on," without everyone watching.

And to only see the Sopranos as "just" a TV show...come on. If you've stuck through the whole thing and seen just about all the episodes, you'd realize it touched on many social and philosophical issues and was more than just "that show about the mafia." Honestly, the show reminded me of something Cormac McCarthy would write if he were given the duty of writing a show about the mafia. To me, the Sopranos is the Blood Meridian of mafia fiction.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

Adrik just steals all his dad's ideas, don't mind him.

The scene is incredibly open to interpretation. The cut to black suggests either Tony is killed or we the audience are "killed." Journey's song "Don't Stop Believing" playing in the background I think was supposed to confuse the viewer even more. Maybe life for them just goes "on and on and on," without everyone watching.

And to only see the Sopranos as "just" a TV show...come on. If you've stuck through the whole thing and seen just about all the episodes, you'd realize it touched on many social and philosophical issues and was more than just "that show about the mafia." Honestly, the show reminded me of something Cormac McCarthy would write if he were given the duty of writing a show about the mafia. To me, the Sopranos is the Blood Meridian of mafia fiction.

1. stfu :|

and

2. Exactly.

 

[The Monkey]

So I bought the season 1 DVD and watched all episodes. The script or great, the acting is great, but the thing that keeps coming back to be is how much I hate practically every character. Tony is the worst of them all. He's just a violent, ignorant, rude murderer, and I wish he would just die. I did not get the same feeling while watching movies like Godfather or Goodfellas, because their characters have a lot of good qualities. So I don't think I will buy the others seasons, as my only wish while watching is that Tony and most of the other cast have their heads blown to pieces.