The world Hitler wanted...

[AzzMan]

Hitler was stubborn too. Watermelon34 = Hitler?

 

[AzzMan]

It's called rape. People die from much worse things. Do you think that your problems should affect someone else? No, didn't think so, so why kill some kid because you were raped into having it? Is it the babies fault? No. Look, lets not get dramatic about things like rape, it happens all the time. It's a part of many people's lives, but it doesn't mean you can decide someone elses fate because you feel like shit after some ordeal. You are infact, a creature. Creatures do things to each other just are horribly sick.

Do you have any idea what it's like? No you don't, so don't base your ideas on pure theory. Unless of course you're a female?

Unless you're a female and youve been raped, you have NO valid opinion on the matter.

 

[WaterMelon34]

I dont think its just that you brought up hitler that is touchy. Its the fact that your so stubborn that you said anything that isn't what you think is what hitler wanted because he had/did things similar. When people that have different views than you do read that and see you are calling them supporters of a modern day hitler it pisses them off...and even more so due to a lot of the people on these boards being european. Heck it would piss anyone off.

Well I wouldn't say he was the greatest role model of all time. And it pisses me off when someone tells me PAS is not a type of extermination. Just like Terri Schaivo, people are getting killed in Holland with or without their approval, so don't tell me it's only for veggies or people who actually want to be killed, because every year 1000 people die because someone else decided it was what those people wanted.

Hitler was stubborn too. Watermelon34 = Hitler?

You're worse than a feminist.

At what point is a fertelised cell a "kid"?

WHAT? So, you wouldn't mind being killed before even knowing it. That ''fertelised cell'' is a person, not a program about to turn on.

 

[WaterMelon34]

sry for double posting

 

[AzzMan]

Well, it IS only for veggies and people that want to die . And I'm better than a femenist, I'm God himself.

 

[Glirk Dient]

Well I wouldn't say he was the greatest role model of all time. And it pisses me off when someone tells me PAS is not a type of extermination. Just like Terri Schaivo, people are getting killed in Holland with or without their approval, so don't tell me it's only for veggies or people who actually want to be killed, because every year 1000 people die because someone else decided it was what those people wanted.


You're worse than a feminist.


WHAT? So, you wouldn't mind being killed before even knowing it. That ''fertelised cell'' is a person, not a program about to turn on.

A lot of people suffer endlessly and there is nothing they can do about it. Just because they can't speak or in some cases move doesn't mean they want to keep suffering.

Granted I am against PAS but I am showing you that there is a logically other side to the conversation. Try to be somewhat open minded because only I am allowed to be an arrogant asshole that tells everyone else they are wrong and I am right.

 

[Ikerous]

That ''fertelised cell'' is a person, not a program about to turn on.

A single cell hundreds of times smaller than the head of a pin without a brain, heart or spine is a human being?

 

[WaterMelon34]

Well, it IS only for veggies and people that want to die . And I'm better than a femenist, I'm God himself.

It's for veggies and people who want to die to present the issue in a nicer way.

 

[WaterMelon34]

A single cell a hundred times smaller than the head of a pin without a brain, heart or spine is a human being?

Lol? Do you honestly think that is even possible to remove? Good luck finding that. No, most people don't even find out until the body starts forming. So they just cut the kid into 6 pieces and pull him out.

BTW you're not religious are you?

 

[Glirk Dient]

Lol? Do you honestly think that is even possible to remove? Good luck finding that. No, most people don't even find out until the body starts forming. So they just cut the kid into 6 pieces and pull him out.

BTW you're not religious are you?

They mash the body up and scramble the brains so the baby oozes out. Sometimes the mother even dies or is succumbed to great grief and loss and never recovers. GG careless sex.

 

[Ikerous]

Lol? Do you honestly think most people have abortions at that phase?

No, but at that phase, it's clearly not human. At some point it does become human. The debate should be at what point durring developement does it go from not being human to being human.

BTW you're not religious are you?

Nope

They mash the body up and scramble the brains so the baby oozes out.

That's disgusting.

 

[Glirk Dient]

Religion shouldn't have anything to do with this...or politics at all. Unless the debate is something like church vs state where it involves religion. I myself am not religious and still view abortion as wrong. Why? Morals...not because of my religion. So please don't drag religion into debates because it means nothing.

 

[bliink]

GG careless sex.

Bifurcation does not apply in this subject. Its not always the "careless sex" paris hilton stereotype person.

 

[Glirk Dient]

Bifurcation does not apply in this subject. Its not always the "careless sex" paris hilton stereotype person.

That is true. But it caters to the people who are careless. Abortion is used for "accident births" and that type of thing a lot. But careless people can and do abuse the system too, so they are more of a radical that I pointed out.

IMO if you chose to have sex you chose the risk of a baby condom or not. There are so many anti-pregnancy devices these days accidents are not nearly as common, so why not focus on fixing the problem for good rather than doing away with the negative effects?

 

[Last One In]

I'm sure you would reconsider your views on abortion bliink if you saw a baby being liquified out of a womans vagina. There is something pathetic about it and utterly wrong.

 

[WaterMelon34]

Bifurcation does not apply in this subject. Its not always the "careless sex" paris hilton stereotype person.

If it is, or if it's not. Give the damn kid up for adoption!!! I know plenty of people who are adopted and they really don't know the difference between their real parents and their adoption parents, because they don't know who their parents were. Although it is a topic to become depressed with or determined to find out who your real parents were, it's nothing to want to die over.

 

[Absinthe]

Right, it's clear you don't know anything about:

1.) The case of Terri Schiavo. All the evidence pointed to her wanting to have her treatments desisted in such an event as hers. Secdonly, there was nothing to "kill". She did not exist as a person. She was nothing more than a organic mass with the ability for respiration. Nothing more. Your use of the word "extermination" only undermines your credibility.

2.) Biology. Tiny cells are not humans. The building blocks for a human being =/= the human being itself.

 

[bliink]

I'm sure you would reconsider your views on abortion bliink if you saw a baby being liquified out of a womans vagina. There is something pathetic about it and utterly wrong.

I have seen it. Not in person, but I have seen it.

Plus, you don't know my views on abortion. Sure, you get some idea from my posts in this thread, but you dont know my views.

The fact that it is disgusting is also not an argument against it. Cancer surgery is pretty gross to watch too.

Theres a thread about white phosphorus here which the effects of are far more disgusting- but people try and justify that too.

 

[Absinthe]

I'm sure you would reconsider your views on abortion bliink if you saw a baby being liquified out of a womans vagina. There is something pathetic about it and utterly wrong.

Ah, the ol' argument from emotion. If you can't make a coherent and substantial argument, then point out how freaky or disgusting it seems!

 

[Kyorisu]

Does anyone else hate Hitler being the omnipresent example for utter evil. Not only that, but even the mildest things are compared to him sometimes, which directly contradicts the ultimate evil thing. I rather dislike that Hitler is the political equivalent of Satan.

People use Hitler becuase he was active in the last century. People blame different people in every new century. Heck give it 50 years and kids will be using Bush.

WHAT? So, you wouldn't mind being killed before even knowing it. That ''fertelised cell'' is a person, not a program about to turn on.

Say abortion was illegal. That cell would have developed into a person and probably led a terrible life. The mother never wanted the child, and from the whole debate I doubt the father would be interested.

Sure let someone adopt the kid. Adoption has it's evils too, many kids are abused in many different ways.

 

[sinkoman]

Lol? Do you honestly think that is even possible to remove? Good luck finding that. No, most people don't even find out until the body starts forming. So they just cut the kid into 6 pieces and pull him out.

BTW you're not religious are you?

You should just stop trying to prove yourself right.

Your entire argument was biased and closeminded from the beggining.

You're just trying to slap oppinions in everybodies face, and it's incredibly over emotional and stupid.

 

[Last One In]

I see a world with abortion as one that is cold and heartless, where no one cares about another, where people sit on computers all day and talk to no one, where thanksgiving and christmas are no longer warm and fun, and where no one really has a reason to live. I don't know about you, but that is not the sort of world that I want to live in. I know that this has no citations to newspapers or any basis in science, but it is probably better information than most of you guys give. I explained why I am against abortion, now you pro abortionists explain why your for it.

 

[Last One In]

Right, it's clear you don't know anything about:

1.) The case of Terri Schiavo. All the evidence pointed to her wanting to have her treatments desisted in such an event as hers. Secdonly, there was nothing to "kill". She did not exist as a person. She was nothing more than a organic mass with the ability for respiration. Nothing more. Your use of the word "extermination" only undermines your credibility.

2.) Biology. Tiny cells are not humans. The building blocks for a human being =/= the human being itself.

Using terri schrivo as an example for euthanasia is like using hitler as the apidimy of evil. Everyone is different and to use her as the standard is ignorant.

 

[sinkoman]

I explained why I am against abortion, now you pro abortionists explain why your for it.

I would, but really, start your own thread on it.

 

[Absinthe]

I see a world with abortion as one that is cold and heartless, where no one cares about another, where people sit on computers all day and talk to no one, where thanksgiving and christmas are no longer warm and fun, and where no one really has a reason to live. I don't know about you, but that is not the sort of world that I want to live in. I know that this has no citations to newspapers or any basis in science, but it is probably better information than most of you guys give.

...Are you a ****ing gimmick or something?

Using terri schrivo as an example for euthanasia is like using hitler as the apidimy of evil. Everyone is different and to use her as the standard is ignorant.

Good thing I'm not the one who used her as the basis for an ill-informed talking point against euthanasia.

 

[diluted]

I'm sure you would reconsider your views on abortion bliink if you saw a baby being liquified out of a womans vagina. There is something pathetic about it and utterly wrong.

Hey, I think I saw that video! I went to a Catholic high school (lol) and one time they showed us a video of abortions. I guess the idea was that that video would make us against abortions, but all it did for me was make me hungry. :x

 

[Absinthe]

Well, scrambled baby is tasty.

 

[Last One In]

lol, now that is funny

 

[Last One In]

Well, I guess were all of a different opinion here. But when you see me walking down the street holding my unaborted childs hand while you grieve the loss of your liquified child, ill be sure to throw you a cracker or something to make you feel better.

 

[sinkoman]

Well, I guess were all of a different opinion here. But when you see me walking down the street holding my unaborted childs hand while you grieve the loss of your liquified child, ill be sure to throw you a cracker or something to make you feel better.

By chance, are you catholic?

Since this thread's pretty much gone to shits, I may as well ask...

Anybody else notice that Catholicism is pretty much complete and utter shit, not of the bull variety?

I forsee catholics witholding the human race from immense progression of knowledge.

 

[Absinthe]

Well, I guess were all of a different opinion here. But when you see me walking down the street holding my unaborted childs hand while you grieve the loss of your liquified child, ill be sure to throw you a cracker or something to make you feel better.

That will be no problem, since whatever was liquified isn't what I'd consider a child.

IRT Sinkoman, I share the same thoughts.

 

[Kyorisu]

Well, I guess were all of a different opinion here. But when you see me walking down the street holding my unaborted childs hand while you grieve the loss of your liquified child, ill be sure to throw you a cracker or something to make you feel better.

I'll be sure to throw you some lithium. Hope you're wearing gloves.

 

[Last One In]

By chance, are you catholic?

Since this thread's pretty much gone to shits, I may as well ask...

Anybody else notice that Catholicism is pretty much complete and utter shit, not of the bull variety?

I forsee catholics witholding the human race from immense progression of knowledge.

How did you guess? The thing with us catholics is that it seems like everything said in the bible comes true, like people being persecuted for what they believe. You may think it is bs, and I probably would if I didn't understand it. But once you start to make the connections, things really start to make sense. Catholicism has taught me the only real truths that I believe, the main one being that our actions are worthless unless they're done out of love for God and for neighbor. EDIT: And in response to your progression of knowlege a scripture was brought to my mind: Of what profit is it to a man that he may gain the whole world and lose his soul. That pretty much sums up why science and religion will always be in conflict: One side is emotional, the other scientific.

 

[WaterMelon34]

By chance, are you catholic?

Since this thread's pretty much gone to shits, I may as well ask...

Anybody else notice that Catholicism is pretty much complete and utter shit, not of the bull variety?

I forsee catholics witholding the human race from immense progression of knowledge.

You're talking about Christians my furry little friend.

 

[Absinthe]

The thing with us catholics is that it seems like everything said in the bible comes true, like people being persecuted for what they believe. You may think it is bs, and I probably would if I didn't understand it. But once you start to make the connections, things really start to make sense.

Is that before or after you start making selective, logic-gapped non-sequitirs?

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Why on earth is this thread still open?

It's pretty much just Bliink staving off a tidal wave of moronic videogame fans talking expert about female reproductive rights.

And even this retarded conversation has nothing to do with the even more retarded one that started it all.

If there ever was a foolproof argument for abortion, you all are it.

 

[gh0st]

aborting fetuses, killing cripples, et al, or usurping a government, decieving a populous, causing tens of millions of combat fatalities and plunging two continents into war while gassing and executing ten million people based solely on their physical features.

i'm not sure which is worse, someone please tell me? dont compare things/ideas/people to hitler or nazism.. its OLD.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

If you get raped and pregnant, you put the baby up for adoption. Saves a life.

thats real easy to say and stuff but theres definitely alot more to it than meets the eye.

why should the pregnant woman have to go through something she did not willingly want to go through?

also think of what the child goes through as well...maybe not early on in life since the child won't understand what rape is.. but once he/she is older and told the truth (which he/she has every right to know), imagine how that would mess with that young person's head? i know i would not want to be in the world knowing what happened.

really easy to say "put the baby up for adoption" but living through it is a mess i don't know everyone would like to welcome.
for the record: i am not for or against abortion... i do believe the woman should have the choice (for rape situations).

 

[Reaktor4]

Last one in, youre a nutter.

 

[AzzMan]

aborting fetuses, killing cripples, et al, or usurping a government, decieving a populous, causing tens of millions of combat fatalities and plunging two continents into war while gassing and executing ten million people based solely on their physical features.

i'm not sure which is worse, someone please tell me? dont compare things/ideas/people to hitler or nazism.. its OLD.

Well if you had any sense of morality, abortion and euthanasia are clearly the greater evil ::watermelon34/dr. evil laugh::