Theyre waiting for you Gordon...

[Dr0ndeh]

in the...........

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Quick, use one of those heal things from Half-Life!!

 

[Lobster]

New employee to a top secret research base, Bickering scientists cause dimensional teleportation accident and flood the base with monsters and zombies, One employee survives to main teleportation lab where he travels to the monsters origin and kills big beasties.

Whoever said originality was dead !

 

[Mr-Fusion]

ahaha no i just couldn't resist this one.

 

[Runteh]

I played Doom3 for about five minutes, then uninstalled it and took it back to the shop. Just another FPS... Nice graphics though, and the physics are utterly pointless.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

I played Doom3 for about five minutes, then uninstalled it and took it back to the shop. Just another FPS... Nice graphics though, and the physics are utterly pointless.

Guess you never understood why doom was such a success...

 

[Kotik]

I played Doom3 for about five minutes, then uninstalled it and took it back to the shop.

Here's your cookie! :smoking:

 

[Burn]

ID software never said the physics would be usefull, there just there to add abit more realism, like most physcis in most games.

Its nice to know you give a game a whole 5 mins, you would'nt of even got into the fighting within 5 mins, so yea... I dunno how you can say its just anouther FPS when you never even got to the shooting.

 

[CR0M]

Just another FPS...

what were you expecting, the spanish inquisition?

 

[Sparta]

ID software never said the physics would be usefull, there just there to add abit more realism, like most physcis in most games.

Its nice to know you give a game a whole 5 mins, you would'nt of even got into the fighting within 5 mins, so yea... I dunno how you can say its just anouther FPS when you never even got to the shooting.

I was thinking of the same thing.

Reminds of the guy who said he returned Far Cry after getting up to the level just before the Carrier :hmph:

 

[AJ Rimmer]

what were you expecting, the spanish inquisition?

*ta-daa!!!*
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!

 

[CR0M]

took yer time

 

[hasan]

hmm .. they should relase the demo soon cuz I wanna try it .. just to see what's all about. I really don't wanna buy it or even pirate it (don't think it's worth it lol).

just pure curiosity ..

 

[.5c0ut-WHoR3.]

It's good.... one of my friends friends friends got it. and well i kinda borrowed it :>

 

[ItchyFish]

All the people from the first 6is posts are making yourselves sound a bit foolish imo, seeing how Doom came out before HalfLife by a considerable amount of years, and the story for Doom3 is basically the same for Doom, so infact it is HalfLife who copied Doom dont you think?

 

[Ghost Freeman]

Oh Wow Another Doom 3 Thread In The Wrong Section!

why wont it keep my caps

 

[alehm]

I bought Doom 3 and placed it in my CD-ROM and started to install. I took it out at 85% and took it back to the store. It was your run of the mill installation experience.

I hear HL2's installation is going to be awesome I will wait for that.

 

[hasan]

lol hl2 is 3.5 GB uncompressed .. I bet installing it from 6 CD's is gonna be some cool experience :/

 

[Xenome]

Doom 3 steals ALOT of things from half-life 1, not only the story, but also things people say, and stuff like that ..

for example the women-voice in the monorail ride also says "in the event of an emergency", and a scientist says "dont go there, im not going with you, its hell out there" ( something like that)

Just all small things 'stolen' from hl, i expected more from Id software..

but furthermore doom 3 is a great game

 

[Mountain Man]

There are times playing Doom 3 that I feel like it's more an homage to Half-Life than the original Doom. In fact, one level in the game is a virtual carbon copy of "On a Rail".

 

[Fishlore]

All the people from the first 6is posts are making yourselves sound a bit foolish imo, seeing how Doom came out before HalfLife by a considerable amount of years, and the story for Doom3 is basically the same for Doom, so infact it is HalfLife who copied Doom dont you think?

Ssshhhh! Don't tell that to the rabid fanboys. They don't want to hear that. They want to continue to believe that Half Life was the greatest and most original story ever told. The very foundation of our lives is based upon the all powerful Half Life. And don't bring up Doom. Since Doom is not Half Life, the fanboys will hate it by default. They don't even need to play it to know they hate it. Why? Because it's not Half Life.

 

[Varg|Hund]

what were you expecting, the spanish inquisition?

Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!

EDIT: Well...I..well...I was late

 

[CptStern]

what is this thread about?

Mel Brooks?

 

[PvtRyan]

what is this thread about?

Mel Brooks?

No. Worse

 

[CptStern]

Mel Brooks goes to hell and meets up with the marine from Doom 3?

 

[Someone]

There are times playing Doom 3 that I feel like it's more an homage to Half-Life than the original Doom. In fact, one level in the game is a virtual carbon copy of "On a Rail".

Same here.

Doom 1 owns all...and HL owes it's life to it, but there is no way in Hell (excuse the pun) that anyone can dismiss the numerous similarities between HL and Doom3. Heck, even has it's own G-man-ish figure.

 

[KingPing_NOR]

Doom 3 steals ALOT of things from half-life 1, not only the story,

ehh.....Doom was befor HL. Doom 3s story is the same as Dooms story. Even if we dident notice all that much of the story in doom, it was it. Doom 3 is as Doom and Doom 2 never happend.

And frankly, who cares. The HL and Doom 3 story's are great. Its not like HL has a patent or something. :|



And why are people so negative at Doom 3? You dont have to prove that you hate doom 3 and love HL2. I have Doom 3 and am very happy with it. And its not an average FPS. Even if it is run around and shot. What about the atmosphere? scary as hell. And the gfx, no need to say anything.
You dont have to hate doom 3 to love HL2.

 

[hasan]

but you have to hate every other game to prove yourself a die-hard hl2 fan lol

 

[Mechagodzilla]

ehh.....Doom was befor HL. Doom 3s story is the same as Dooms story. Even if we dident notice all that much of the story in doom, it was it. Doom 3 is as Doom and Doom 2 never happend.

Well, Doom 1&2 basically had a one-line plot: Bad teleportation experiment sends demons to mars.

Half-Life can't really be faulted too much with being similar to that short premise. How many movies have the premise "zombies take over the world" or "two strangers fall in love"?

Premise and overall execution are not the same thing.

The train and the G-man are some of the many things that are pulled from Half-life's production.

 

[ItchyFish]

quote xenome : and a scientist says "dont go there, im not going with you, its hell out there" ( something like that)

Err wtf do you expect a scientist to say lol ?

Ssshhhh! Don't tell that to the rabid fanboys. They don't want to hear that. They want to continue to believe that Half Life was the greatest and most original story ever told. The very foundation of our lives is based upon the all powerful Half Life. And don't bring up Doom. Since Doom is not Half Life, the fanboys will hate it by default. They don't even need to play it to know they hate it. Why? Because it's not Half Life.

You gotta love those FanBoy's eh? Us fish stick together :cheers: lol

But seriously though, there are always going to be similarities and "reminders" ina game that includes a lone figure fighting scary mutant monster things from a different dimension in a huge Science Labaratory which includes loads of scientists and civies. I mean what the **** you expect, you play a great game like HalfLife and you are'nt going to be reminded about it y
in a game that is quite close its its setting and storyline? Doom came first, and brought its story with it, so there. :thumbs:

Edit: Sorry for the 1st Quote i cant be bothered to look in bb code

 

[DevgruSeal]

lol hl2 is 3.5 GB uncompressed .. I bet installing it from 6 CD's is gonna be some cool experience :/

I would say they should put it on a DVD. The DVDs I have hold 4.7 gigs of data.

 

[Mountain Man]

All the people from the first 6is posts are making yourselves sound a bit foolish imo, seeing how Doom came out before HalfLife by a considerable amount of years, and the story for Doom3 is basically the same for Doom, so infact it is HalfLife who copied Doom dont you think?

Nope. Doom had a premise. In fact, the premise was a mainstay of science fiction and horror literature long before Carmack and Romero were even born, so Doom can't even claim the premise as its own. Seriously, "creatures from another dimension coming to take over the earth" is a well worn cliché.

But I digress. Half-Life took the premise and turned it into a genuine story that was something quite distinct from Doom's paper-thin premise. Doom 3 then stole (or at least was significantly "inspired" by) Half-Life's story. As has been pointed out, there are even specific gameplay elements that are lifted almost whole cloth from Half-Life.

Doesn't make Doom 3 a bad game. In fact, it's quite fun and the graphics are amazing. But anybody who doesn't recognize the obvious and significant Half-Life influence is just a blinded id fanboy.

 

[Drizz]

Maybe you guys should read a little bit. Man o man. Half life is not original! Doom is not original! There have been books written many years before these games even existed with these exact ideas. Good God do people even have an imagination anymore? I never thought I'd see the day when people would consider a videogame a GREAT ALMIGHTY ORIGINAL STORY!!!! Start reading some books. Believe me you'll find some books out there that have the same ideas as Half Life and Doom. Only more well written and immersive. For people who think Half Life was an amazing story. consider this: An experiment goes wrong. Aliens swarm the earth. You kill the monsters. Army guys interfere. You travel to the Alien world and fight the big aliens. Yay you win. Game over.

Doom: An experiment goes wrong. Monsters swarm Mars. You kill the monsters. You travel to Hell and kill the big monsters. Yay you win. Game over.

Brilliant!!!! A Masterpiece!!!! They have the exact same story line for God sake! When I played Doom 3 it did remind me of Half Life in some parts. But when I played Half Life it reminded me of the original Doom game. They are both great games in their own way. Even though both of their stories are weak.

 

[Pitbul]

you have those screenshots on low detail, i can run Doom 3 on high detail at 1024x768 on my 9600XT.

 

[Kotik]

Just...too...much...fanboys....

Sorry, but Drillz is right. :x

 

[Wiseman]

Damn I wish I noticed this thread earlier, now everything I was gonna say has been said. But yeah, everyone concept has been done to death. We've got several thousand years of recorded stories, nothing is original. Who cares about premises, HL delivered the idea much better than Doom, and as I haven't played Doom3 yet, I'll have to wait, but I expect from other peoples comments that HL delivered it better than Doom3 as well.

I don't see how originality can affect how good a game is anyway. If you played HL first, thought it was a great game, played Doom, saw HL was ripped off, does HL automatically now become a sucky game? Does that make sense? Should anyone even care? Doubt it.

Judge games independently of other games. Who cares which ideas got stolen; if you think one game's better, then that should be the only thing that matters.

Ssshhhh! Don't tell that to the rabid fanboys. They don't want to hear that. They want to continue to believe that Half Life was the greatest and most original story ever told. The very foundation of our lives is based upon the all powerful Half Life. And don't bring up Doom. Since Doom is not Half Life, the fanboys will hate it by default. They don't even need to play it to know they hate it. Why? Because it's not Half Life.

If your done trolling, please go away. It's nice to see how you think the universe began with Doom, and every other game which shares ideas got them from it. You really dug deep into this issue, which I applaud, and your use of the strawman fallacy just adds to the strength of your arguments. If you bothered to read most of the other people's posts, you could tell that most of them've played Doom3. If you aren't in some form of debate club, you should join one, because you'd be a valuable asset.

...if you can't tell I'm being sarcastic.

 

[FoB_Ed]

Doom 1 had a plot?

 

[Wiseman]

It had a premise. There's a big difference, but most people don't seem to understand that.

The basic premise in Doom and HL is, "monsters attack from a parallel universe/dimension". We have to note that this is a very unoriginal premise. The fact that they use teleportation is just logical, to lay any invasion over a large distance, you need a fast way to travel. Since faster than light travel is theoretically impossible as far as I know (and is much less original, it seems every alien in sci-fi can break the speed of light), teleportation is the best way to travel. Now a lab is an obvious place to have experimental technology (we could use magical teleportation, but magic isn't original either) in modern times (because the future has been to death, no originality there). So from the first unoriginal premise, the lab is just the best way to go. That's where the similarities stop.

Then you have the fact that humans had visited Xen on multiple occasions, the Xen life was originally neutral, but later became hostile, the other invasion from Race-X, the marines trying to cover it up, the black-ops later trying to cover it (including the marines this time) up. HL is way different.

 

[Mountain Man]

In Half-Life, the invasion is just the framework. The real story is about a conspiracy.

 

[alehm]

I can't believe so many people have missed the point of Half Life.
Think about it, the game starts off with Barney promising to buy Gordon a beer but things get in the way, first it is work, then an experiment goes wrong, then aliens and marines are trying to kill you, then the government drops a nuke on Black Mesa. The whole premise of Half Life was to show sometimes its just impossible to get a good, cold beer.

This is the entire framework for Half Life 2. Will Barney finally buy that beer?