They've created a Black Hole in a lab

Ritz said:
I want to poke it!


Well give me your legs and i'll tip you upside down so you can have a closer look at it.

It seems to be really cool and an exciting prospect to be able to create a blackhole in a lab, but it also seems very, very scary as well.
 
Can someone post a picture for the thing?
I can't connect to the site for some reason.
 
Sieg said:
Can someone post a picture for the thing?
I can't connect to the site for some reason.

You can't get the BBC thanks to the Great Firewall of China... :|

Here's the article:

Lab fireball 'may be black hole'

Creating the conditions for the formation of black holes is one of the aims of particle physics.
A fireball created in a US particle accelerator has the characteristics of a black hole, a physicist has said.
It was generated at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) in New York, US, which smashes beams of gold nuclei together at near light speeds.

Horatiu Nastase says his calculations show that the core of the fireball has a striking similarity to a black hole.

His work has been published on the pre-print website arxiv.org and is reported in New Scientist magazine.

When the gold nuclei smash into each other they are broken down into particles called quarks and gluons.

These form a ball of plasma about 300 times hotter than the surface of the Sun. It can be detected because it absorbs jets of particles produced by the beam collisions.

But Nastase, of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, says there is something unusual about this fireball.

Ten times as many jets were being absorbed by the fireball as were predicted by calculations.

The Brown researcher thinks the particles are disappearing into the fireball's core and reappearing as thermal radiation, just as matter falls into a black hole and comes out as "Hawking" radiation.

Related Links:
http://www.newscientist.com/
http://arxiv.org/

The picture featured isn't the actual black hole they created, it's just a standard black hole picture.
 

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Sieg said:
Can someone post a picture for the thing?
I can't connect to the site for some reason.

a picture of the black hole? That would be difficult considering it's size!
 
I reckon my physics teacher, who is evil, would keep a Black Hole in a jar and throw it in anyone's face if they irritated him :LOL:
 
I thought you couldn't get a picture of a black hole, because it doesn't emit or reflect any light... I though all the picture they have now was just from their concept.
 
Teh_Poet said:
I thought you couldn't get a picture of a black hole, because it doesn't emit or reflect any light... I though all the picture they have now was just from their concept.

Well you can see it's absence, like a distinctly black region of space, defining the event horizon's limits. - especially in the densely packed region in the centres of galaxies, it would be really obvious in the vicinity of bright stars.

Also you would get Hawking radiation from the Event Horizon, don't know what frequency range though.

I don't know if they captured any actual black hole pictures, because I don't really pay much attention to astronomical things (I don't consider it a 'real' science :p)
 
kirovman said:
I don't consider it a 'real' science :p
Ha ha! I could understand if somebody said that about astrology, but I'm rather confounded as to how you came about that conclusion for astronomy. Could you explain?
 
I wonder whatd happen if i fed a blackhole to my cat...
 
He_Who_Is_Steve said:
Ha ha! I could understand if somebody said that about astrology, but I'm rather confounded as to how you came about that conclusion for astronomy. Could you explain?

It makes huge approximations (yeah, you say it's a big-astronomical scale, but even then the error margins still don't satisfy me), and some of the mathematics involved just doesn't seem consistent. I dunno, just don't like it.
 
kirovman said:
It makes huge approximations (yeah, you say it's a big-astronomical scale, but even then the error margins still don't satisfy me), and some of the mathematics involved just doesn't seem consistent. I dunno, just don't like it.


Agreed. Astronomers are weird.... weird people. :cheers:
 
Ritz said:
Your cat would gain super powers.

Well, that's now my new project. Even though, with great power comes great respnsibility, or something, and my cat would likely flout her powers in getting extra food, softer pillows, and beatdowns on all other local wildlife.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Fat Tony! said:
At last! one step closer to teh black hole gun!
Ah, yes. The most awesome thing to come out of Unreal 2. Too bad you hardly get to use it.
 
Could you have imagined if the first time they didn't do it on a small scale?

...In today's news New York was destroyed by a black hole...
 
blahblahblah said:
Could you have imagined if the first time they didn't do it on a small scale?

...In today's news New York was destroyed by a black hole...
Well they couldn't do it on a big scale in the first place.

It would possibly take more energy then what the earth provides.I'm no scientist so correct me if I'm wrong.
 
blahblahblah said:
Could you have imagined if the first time they didn't do it on a small scale?

...In today's news New York was destroyed by a black hole...

Meh, you'd need a mass of at least the sun's to achieve that.

Tr0n said:
It would possibly take more energy then what the earth provides.I'm no scientist so correct me if I'm wrong.

Absolutely right, beat me to it. The black hole's 'size' would have been microscopic. Particle accelerators aren't going to be able to destroy New York for a few years yet.
 
marksmanHL2 :) said:
Agreed. Astronomers are weird.... weird people. :cheers:
<Coughs> Sir Patrick Moore? Weird!? BLASPHEMER!
Honest to God, if we could vote for monarch, it'd be a close call 'twixt him and Sir Trevor "The Sex Machine" McDonald :)
 
Actually, just so everyone knows, thats just a painting of a black hole. I don't think you'll ever find a photograph like that.
 
there's a lot of concepts of black holes (art)

but you can't see them 'cause light can't ecscape :p
 
so black holes are real?

and they suck everything close to them or what?
 
<RJMC> said:
so black holes are real?

and they suck everything close to them or what?

The whores of space.
 
In the centre of a black hole is a sinularity this is so dense it sucks other objects into it.
 
when the hell am i going to be able to travel time?
it's better be ready by next week

anyway, cool post
 
<RJMC> said:
so black holes are real?

and they suck everything close to them or what?

DUH, they suck everything even light and time, because they have such a big gravitational force
 
Think about it logically, the reason black holes suck with such a large gravitational force is because of their enormous mass, to get a normal black hole you need an enormous star, with a mass far larger then the sun therefore even if we took all the planets in the solar system and the sun we wouldn't have enough mass to make a black hole anywhere near the size to do anything. Im suprised that the black hole in the middle of the fireball exists, makes me wonder
 
Fat Tony! said:
Think about it logically, the reason black holes suck with such a large gravitational force is because of their enormous mass, to get a normal black hole you need an enormous star, with a mass far larger then the sun therefore even if we took all the planets in the solar system and the sun we wouldn't have enough mass to make a black hole anywhere near the size to do anything. Im suprised that the black hole in the middle of the fireball exists, makes me wonder

dude, mass doesn't have to do anything with blackholes, blackholes are massless, there are just a field of force
 
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