Things that didnt make the cut

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Aurek

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Things that didnt make the cut (Spoilers)

Im on my second time playing through and it appears to me there are many things that never made it into HL2.

Many videos were released in the run up from the announcement of HL2 to the eventual release. Screenshots on Valves official HL2 website still show ingame shots of combine soldiers armed with OICW's and rebel soldiers with that cut down version of the MP5. Several sections of the game seem not to have made it at all, such as the more open street battles shown in the E3 trailer. "Traptown" (did it turn into ravenhome?) is not in, aswell as scripted sequences such as combine troops kicking down doors and the blue tentacle that impales a combine soldier in the sewers in an earlier video. Also in many videos you can see other parts of existing levels that were cut.

Open the model viewer and you can see three enemies that didnt get in. The "Synth" and "Mortar Synth" and the Icthyosaur. These have textures and several animations. The Synth is actually seen in the game during the last coffin ride to Breens office and the Icthyosaur during the teleports in Red letter day. Also the large slug like creature Breen is seen talking to on monitor screens is named "Advisor" and even has attack animations?

Anyone know why these things happened? Im not giving out or anything I absoutily love the game. Im just curious ;) mabye we'll see some of this stuff in an addon pack?
 
nib said:
ok, thanks.
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lmao.

but yeah, there were MANY weapons, enemies and a few levels that were cut.
 
Sorry about that, accidentally hit post before Id finished typing.
 
Well, given the massive delays it is fairly obvious that they simply didn't have the time to finish with those things in-game. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those things don't make their appearance in various add-ons that I'm sure we'll see on steam before long.
 
No doubt we will but does anyone have any solid info?

Same thing happened with Halflife 1.
A LOT was removed from that game.
Here's a tiny fraction: www.planethalflife.com/nostalgia
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cool link thanks.

However one thing I am dissappointed at is the dynamic non-scripted AI driven engagements talked about in the very first PCZ preview for HL2 didnt happen. But oh well, mabye for HL3 ;)
 
left out

yeah actually i remember being very impressed by many e3 trailers and hl2 previews but all did not make it. i also can add on one very early trailer showing you on the pier with a shotgun tangling with a classic zombie who throws a barrel at you.

also im abit disappointed that there were so many aliens from the previous hl that did not appear in the sequel. powerdogs (thats what i call them -yellow with blue stripes), that green beak from blast pit, titan (the one with fly gun), the monster fish (you never fight it) assasin soldiers, the combine apc.. theres more but i cant remember. i mean they could have just included them in a level for old times sake? maybe for 6 years worth of wait my expectations were a wee bit higher
 
This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it occurs to me that some of the things that were cut that people complain about would have been completely unkown without the stolen build.

A lot of what was cut wasn't intended for any eyes outside of the VALVe offices or the early test demos shown only to the press.

If we still didn't know about them today, it wouldn't hurt that they were missing. And I wonder if Raising the Bar would have the focus that it does now?
 
at the parth where the first fast zombie charges you, before you get the shoddy, is from traptown. and the barrier video is the part where ppl are coming ut of the building w/ the crater in the street
 
Brian Damage said:
This isn't aimed at anyone here, but it occurs to me that some of the things that were cut that people complain about would have been completely unkown without the stolen build.

A lot of what was cut wasn't intended for any eyes outside of the VALVe offices or the early test demos shown only to the press.

If we still didn't know about them today, it wouldn't hurt that they were missing. And I wonder if Raising the Bar would have the focus that it does now?
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Surprisingly, in this thread there hasnt been a single mention of anything from the stolen build. Yet.
 
Yeah, those videos shown at E3 were actually proof of concept videos, and were never true parts of the game, if I recall correctly. Though most did make it into the game in some shape or form.

And the blue tentacle, the Hydra, was unfortunately cut because it just didn't work. A shame, too.
 
The cremator with the acid gun and the guardian (although it looked like something from starcraft, i still liked it) were cut, and that depressed me... I loved both and the cremator was so creepy looking.
 
The cremator with the acid gun and the guardian (although it looked like something from starcraft, i still liked it) were cut, and that depressed me... I loved both and the cremator was so creepy looking.
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What were they?

There hasn't been any mention of the stolen build from me anyway because I never got it. I didnt want to as I am totally against what the guy did.
 
I donwloaded it after I got the game because I heard about the cremator and guardian and wanted so bad to see them.

The cremator was this gangly thing wearing a very round kind of gasmask similar to the combines who carried around an acid gun, he was essentially the "janitor" of the combine as he sprayed dead bodies with acid and they dissolved. He was wearing a green cloak and ... Well... if you want a picture of him just e-mail me. ([email protected])

The guardian was a combine which was in a big mech suit, he had a big gun and he shot a powerful lazer attack from this head thing attached to these two cables attached to the top of the suit which acted kind of like an animal's head. (e-mail me for screenshot of this aswell). His face was exposed but rarely seen past the weird lazer eye head thing.


THey were crazy cool, shame they were removed. Also the assasin was awesome. And the combine sniper rifle. Ahh so much fun!

But I wouldn't go searching around unless you've beaten hl2.
 
it would be kinda cool if they were to release the stolen build on steam for people who had beaten hl2... :)
 
The only thing that seemed kind of out of place, like something is missing, is the dead bodies. They're randomly thrown in there, and killed by something very different than what we're used to.
 
MysticalMrBob said:
The only thing that seemed kind of out of place, like something is missing, is the dead bodies. They're randomly thrown in there, and killed by something very different than what we're used to.
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I think I read somewhere that they were cremator victims.
Since there's the cremator head on Eli's desk, that would imply that the cremator still exists in the storyline, but just not in the game itself.

Personally, I'm glad they cut him because his green sock-suit looks a tad stupid.
He'd look better in some sort of jet-black shiney raincoat.
 
Yeah, some sort of Gestapo-style overcoat. The screenshots I've seen of Cremators look extremely silly.
 
MysticalMrBob said:
The only thing that seemed kind of out of place, like something is missing, is the dead bodies. They're randomly thrown in there, and killed by something very different than what we're used to.
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some of them might have been torched when they were headcrabbed or something, early on.. maybe *shrugs*
 
MrWhite said:
I donwloaded it after I got the game because I heard about the cremator and guardian and wanted so bad to see them.

The cremator was this gangly thing wearing a very round kind of gasmask similar to the combines who carried around an acid gun, he was essentially the "janitor" of the combine as he sprayed dead bodies with acid and they dissolved. He was wearing a green cloak and ... Well... if you want a picture of him just e-mail me. ([email protected])

The guardian was a combine which was in a big mech suit, he had a big gun and he shot a powerful lazer attack from this head thing attached to these two cables attached to the top of the suit which acted kind of like an animal's head. (e-mail me for screenshot of this aswell). His face was exposed but rarely seen past the weird lazer eye head thing.


THey were crazy cool, shame they were removed. Also the assasin was awesome. And the combine sniper rifle. Ahh so much fun!

But I wouldn't go searching around unless you've beaten hl2.
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Actually, looking at the excerpt from "Raising the Bar" that was in the sampler that came with the CE, the "Guardian" was an early version of the Combine Elite, and was part Synth, part human.

Mechagodzilla said:
I think I read somewhere that they were cremator victims.
Since there's the cremator head on Eli's desk, that would imply that the cremator still exists in the storyline, but just not in the game itself.

Personally, I'm glad they cut him because his green sock-suit looks a tad stupid.
He'd look better in some sort of jet-black shiney raincoat.
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I was wondering if VALVe left the Cremator head in that jar as a joke to all those who played the stolen build. Alternatively, we may yet see them in an expansion.
 
Here are shots of alot of weapons from the build...(including the creamator and alot of stuff I didn't even know about) NO idea what the text is though. :)
 
Hmm, only took me my first play through to realize a lot of the stuff from the videos were missing.
 
Wow, I really hope they make an expansion, maybe as Alyx or Barney. Or Combine Assassin, but that would break the tradition of the g-man following you.

Or would it?
 
Whats odd about that site is they have many weapons modeled that weren't in the beta, as well as some enemies that werent

Like the desert scanner, and the HMG or thumper never had models...or alyx_gun...

And i played every level and every fan level, never saw a cremator or combine guard
 
Tantalus said:
Wow, I really hope they make an expansion, maybe as Alyx or Barney. Or Combine Assassin, but that would break the tradition of the g-man following you.

Or would it?
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The gman would still be there, like in HL's expansions.
 
this all sounds really interesting... i don't want to download the leak though! i hope valve release some sort of mod that let's us play with the weapons that were cut.

does anyone think they will in some way, shape or form?
 
I"d really love to see some big pics of all those weapons and creatures. The sand barnacle and the mortar synth look pretty cool. As well as the Guard Gun, the Gauss Gun, the Immolator, the Slam, and wtf @ the Cremator head? AK-47 FOR GORDON FREEMAN!

Seriously, they should have given resistance soldiers AKs. It's only appropriate that rag tag, scrappy rebels are armed with AK-47s.
 
i don't think so. maybe in some expansion...

the reason you never saw the cremator was because the model wouldn't load in the game, only the cremator itself, also without AI. The combine guard could be loaded up in the leak. It would fire a strong cannon and it was invinsible.
 
Seriously, they should have given resistance soldiers AKs. It's only appropriate that rag tag, scrappy rebels are armed with AK-47s.
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It would have actually fitted quite well into HL2, being better for long-range than the Pulse RIfle if it handled like most FPS assault rifles. What I would have liked to see is some kind of machinegun - maybe one of those giant AK (PK?) things.
 
I think Gabe said that things were cut to focus on more important parts of the game. Of course this has two possible meanings.
Focus time and effort on certain things to finish the game (ie. things requiring too much tweaking and fixing and are not essential were cut). Or, focus the game on more important parts of the story (ie. you spend 70% of the game in C17 instead of just 50% because C17 is the focus of the game).

Some of the cut material sound really good while others sound like they wouldn't fit or are completely useless. I'm pretty sure we will see some of the cut material surface in some form in the future.
 
the one thing that i really wanted to see in the game were the blue tentacles.....those things were awesome. but alas, they were cut....
 
there was so much cools things in the leak

I want to download it,especially cuz can be like a demo to see if HL2 will run in my PC
 
I think i found a picture of the cremator. If this is what he indeed looks like it is pretty pathetic.

cremator.jpg
 
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